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Abhi I would like to Sit down with Indian MoFA and discuss the relationship between both countries and Future of the Region. Ambassador to India will be actively available on Your Forums and IRC Channel if you need to get hold of him.

Regards
Ahsan Shahbaz
MoFA of Pakistan

I will be on your IRC even more so than I am know. I will also register on your forus and try to post regular articles in both India & Pakistan regarding my post.

"I come to you today with a branch of friendship than the gun of a freedom fighter" - Yasir Arafat. Not like I ever had an eAK-47.

Hey frn welcome 😃 hpoe to have good relations with you 😃 Only issues are the serb border tht worry me 😛

I support INDO-PAK Friendship.

Very hard to be friends after you have brought Serbia to Asia and allowing them to lurk on our borders waiting to swoop whilst we watch a hugh influx of foreign suspeted PTO multis.

Interesting to see what you have to say but right now I think India would be happier seeing Pakistan removed from the Map for their treachourous behaviour after we did so much to help you grow many months back.

This is just my view as a citizen though I dont spk as a diplomat.

I support you David.
JAI HIND.

Hey David Long Time Wassup... I am sure your remember me.

Anyways, Replying to your View as Citizen... Here is my Response as Citizen.


"You have brought USA To Sub continent that makes us Insecure. If anyone would want my country to be wiped off from the map. I would want same thing to be happened to his country. Look at you guys, being controlled by USA. Who is playing you as puppets. Why don't you formally join EDEN ? and officially get recognized as puppets. I am sorry to Disappoint you Pakistan's world does not revolve around India. We have other friends and If you are supporting USA to put in danger their interests and bring someone like USA who we might consider as imperialist Nation in eWorld we have to safeguard our national Interest."

My Response as Citizen to a Citizen.

Now My Response as Minister Of Foreign Affairs

"I know what you did with us few months back and helped us actively engaged yourself in discussion with me and my other cabinet members. Often wanted to provide us support against Iranian PTO. which was threat to Nations at that Time.

However India's Pro USA Stance has put Pakistan into a difficult Situation, after USA Ambitions of entering Asia were obvious. Let me make it Clear, we didn't Sign MPP agreement with any enemy of India that would be Iran at the time while you did with United States, which raises Question Marks in minds of Ordinary Citizens.

However, why don't sit down and talk and discuss our reservations. As it appears during my absence from the Office. The Element of Diplomacy vanished from Pakistan's Government."

Ahsan, there is a major difference between the USA being here and Serbia being here.....

USA is here to return our land and Pakistan is not endangered by this move.

Serbia is here to destroy India land and rape us of our resoruces and that was only made possible by Pakistan.

And yes India did help you from Iranian PTO and we even sent you votes and how you repay us? by turning on us and threatening our security whilst at the same time you suck up to your oppressors like they are your master.

Who is the real puppet nation I ask you?

Well, David Forde Let's roll back.

Time line:
- India signs MPP with USA
- USA Enters Asia.
- USA Invades into Chinese Regions.
- Rumors of Possible Land Swap between India and USA are heard.
- USA Side of Rumors contain statements like "Iran we are coming for you"
- I am no longer MoFA or Active in the government scene
- India shares no border with the Real Iran at that time only the occupied Regions of India by Iran. Which If I am were taken back by India before USA entered India.
- The Only way USA would have approached Iran would have been through Pakistan.
- It would have been considered attack on our Country and India would have been Party to it.


Anyway, I am trying to establish some sort of Diplomatic Relation between the two nations Over here.

Ahh well I like to call a cease fire between both of you. We can sit and talk about the issues. Well Pakistan will not be endangered by any of our moves. We are a neutral country and USA is here just to protect us from Serbia. We do not need any help from USA to attack pakistan, if in any way we want to. It doesn't mean we gonna attack Pakistan.
While I don't know why Serbia is doing in Pakistan, and trying to help Iran in PTOing us.
I would admire if Pakistan talks with Serbia and ask them to return to their own land. If you do that, I promise to give my best to ensure the safety of Pakistan from USA attack in future (If USA gonna attack Pak, which I dont think they'll)
If you want, we can draw an official NAP between us.
ehh and let me remind, we asked Indonesia and Hungary help first long ago when we asked USA to give us freedom.

Ahshan, you are not naive enough to believe USA would have attacked Iran on their mainland as that would have triggered a host of MPP's and led to the defeat of the americans so lets not go there.

You know as well as everyone else the USA targeted Iran in the Indian regions only as Iran refused to negotiate with us for our regions for roughly 10 months and so we took them by force.

Also, the USA where told they would not be let into Andhra Pradesh to attack Karnataka, Indonesia as we were best friends with Indonesia and did not want to change this then you guys started the land swaps to allow serbia into Asia to PTO India.

If anyone wants proof of these events its all in the history books look at the order of battle....

Battle 8380 - USA take JHARKHAND and remove Iran from India (USA where due to now leave India)

Battle 8406 - PAKISTAN begin land swaps with Iran and Iran President issues statement claimimg Serbia is coming to destroy India

Battle 8425 - INDIA has no choice but to allow USA fully access into India to remove all ENEMY borders in the North and South to avoid India being PTO'd and having our land retreated.

Facts will always speak for themselves and so I wont comment further to avoid fuelling this debate.

Reference Tools:
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/8406" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show[..]8406
http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/8425" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show[..]/8425

i dont trust pakistanis 🙁, neither shud the government

>USA is here to return our land and Pakistan is not endangered by this move.

well so far i am here, i didn't see serbia to attack on india so far.
whereas u guys attack us with usa mpp. plz verify your statment.



>And yes India did help you from Iranian PTO and we even sent you votes and how you repay us? by turning on us and threatening our security whilst at the same time you suck up to your oppressors like they are your master.

for your kind information, we never ever had your help for those things.
its not like that we can't handle our nation. its you guys who are doing region swaps at the times, which demonstrate your ability to not govern the nation.

//This Diplomatic Missions should not be interpreted as hand of friendship but as opening of diplomatic way to discuss and talk things. //

Explains all.....Nothing more to say...Pakistan should not be trusted

//its not like that we can't handle our nation. its you guys who are doing region swaps at the times, which demonstrate your ability to not govern the nation.//

With this attitude...I guess diplomatic missions should be kicked out😶

Cant handle their poor country and advising us...

First of all, we are not the US' puppets, I can see why everyone is saying it. But I don't see why people don't think a little further and see that India did and will always do what it thinks is best for her own citizens.

Next to that, letting the US into here was a delicate situation. Karnataka was Indonesia, Jharkand was Iranian, 2 regions our country really needed to grow and yes, we still do not have Karnataka. But the main difference now is, is that the US pays rent, while Indonesia just sat there and was happy doing nothing.

About the USA saying it wanted to attack Iran, well like David already said, don't be so naive believing they would attack directly because that's one of the most stupid things they can do in this game. We did need the US to take back Jharkand, yes, on our own we probably wouldn't have made it. After that, if you had a good look at the map, you may have noticed that the US almost disappeared from here, and popped back up whith our elections because of the danger of a PTO and Serbia (and Indonesia) invading our country from the nice island you gave 'em.

Point is, take of your glasses and look from both sides. Try to think of what you should do if you were in our position and you'll understand it a lot better.

hey ahsan welcome back 😃

Pak_Land if you are the country president and you are making such stupid comments as above then I now see how you are such a serbian puppet.

India DID help with your PTO problems so dont say we didnt, even your MOFA says we did in this very article maybe you should read it possibly????

Oh and also India did not attack Pakistan with a USA MPP we kicked your arse all on our own and it was a great pleasure to do so after you cheated us. 😃

Welcome Ahsan. 😃

AS I SAID to both PAKLAND AND AHSAN this is something to be discussed in close room and not in open channel.

You both are trying to prove your point on half known facts.

If you really want to be friends with us, sit across and discuss with top level ministers and president of our country
namely
Abhi, Ashwamedh, shail and David

We know what you did and you know what we did, but dont be influenced by the phoenix big guys, they cant win fairly so they try unfair means and influence you with wrong information.

let the better sense prevail and yes

what you did was wrong, accept this fact.

Ok guys, cool down both of you. You can argue amongst the citizens but not the politicians, that goes for pak & India. Let us the elected sort the stuff out in a meeting. I have one thing to say to you: What good is it to have a hostile neighbor? War?

If you want this stuff sorted ask your cabinet to organize a meeting, PM me, I will osrt out Pak side. Fast forward 10 months from now, are we still going to hold these events of the past in the future? If so, why were we ever friends? Remember we were enemies long ago.

Angry commment is not the way forward, if you the citizens are going to be like this and not take dimplomacy then why don't you attack Serbia?

Also, for the "not here for friendship" comment, you think either of the sides would waltz into the other country and be best friends? No talking is needed. Outstanding issues need to be resolved then friendship. C'mon, show some love😉.

Kind Regards,
Ambassador to eIndia
Policy


Btw aren't I your friend? I'm in your IRC most of the time, lol.

Why do Indians have to be so obviously tsundre for us?

@BGBW - Relax, not everyone hates you. 😛

yes everyone please listen to david_forde...he knows everything...ahsan and pakland lets believe him...he has the right things to say..
if he says all the things...yes we agree...but now what happens will be solely determined by his actions....

Can we stop all these hot stuff here now??
Past is past, we can talk about future, whenever you want.

"What good is it to have a hostile neighbor? War?"

Agreed, India has enough trouble with Iran not wanting to talk. Let us keep at least peace between our countries and if possible a good friendly relationship 🙂

With David, Voted anyways. Diplomacy is good.. other wise we might jzt play counterstrike, and be done withit!

I support Indo Pak friendship but I must say all of David's points are accurate and valid.