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I don't particularly agree with my logs being used in a politically motivated manner, but considering that Discrate's opposition attempted to destroy the country simply to stop him getting into power, I'll let it slide.

Information is like boobs. Both should be free from constraints.

Infin you should have run this article past Hinokai first. You could have just said what had happened and given the link the forums where the conversation about it was taking place.

Putting it in this context is more proof of how far one party will resort in order to win an election. Best as I can see neither H.Nelson or Viado had anything to do with it.

Poor form yet again, you have attempted to manipulate peoples freedom of choice. Nice grasp of democracy you have.

Lol.

Delusions of grandeur is all that's left with fail-CPs.

This is about our current CP and the tendency of some people to know whats best for our country. Instead of letting things just pan out Tim had to get involved. Why did HE run again for CP???

And free press means we can write whatever we want Larni, that is called democracy.

Larni Twaddlestorm

If this log is true my respect for certain members of the community has just gone down a lot. Put your own selfish game aside, discrate will probably be our elected official in a few hours, who are you to deliberately go against the wishes of the eAustralian public?

To possible destroy your country over a personal vendetta, you should be ashamed.

I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PLAN 😕

I do agree with infin though - please vote no!

infin I'm pretty sure posting a log from the cabinet room in an article is against the rules but whatever.

@larni: freedom of speech

what are the eAus laws on treason?

There is a major misunderstanding here - Tim Holz is leading the hapless Venja right into DocterDrys hands. To understand DDs philosophy think of the phrase if you stir the pot the cream rises to the top - clearly TH is doing the stirring and clearly DD is sitting back to examine the cream. Just think about this - if by chance the whole country falls - who survives - then consider the motivations 🙂

There is a difference between something top secret in cabinet and something the eAustralian public should know Larni, stop trying to cover up for them.

Thanks for sharing this infin. I already had reports they were going to do this. They dont care about the country, only about their personal vendettas

i like how hinokai only supplied half the log but whatever dont let facts get in the way of a good story

LOL venja... australias best interests at heart AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

by all means, tim, give your side of the story.

ok u really want it?

discrate is a puppet to people like you infin. he has no cabinet experience (even when the ANP ran eAus for 3 months. they proved they suck btw) and he has given cabinet roles to people who are lets just say nicely sub-par.

ive worked for 9 months at the forefront of eAus trying my best to do whatever possible to get back our regions and make sure they arent taken again. im not just going to sit around and watch it all get pissed away by some arrogant fuck who likes to use an avatar of one of the worst people in recorded history.

eAustralia being occupied is better than that

so in order to keep australia safe you are going to have it overrun. that sounds like a plan.

so why didnt u run again if it was all such a disasterous campaign from DD? Why didnt you get out there and inform the australian community about this.. oh wait, information forthcoming isnt your strong point is it???

no your right ronnyjnrjnr. i dont do public announcements well. you caught me.

>run again
your kidding right? ive had enough of dealing with pathetic and unimportant issues when trying to do important stuff

>inform public
ANP slanders me to quitting point

@ Tim_Holtz actually when ANP ran eAus for 3 months it was the best it has been run for years - we had continual NE bonuses and we had high resource regions - in comparison to that your efforts at CP have not been very good. Perhaps your treachery is just about hiding this plain fact. My suggestion is that if you dont like the country and do not have the guts to fight for your ideas at the ballot box at least do the honerable thing like Larni and leave.

your kidding right? you do realise that if you hadn't hired me to do your foreign affairs work you would have been occupied by NZ for the last 5 months.

and on the note of continual NE bonus weren't you the one that singlehandedly made us forced to stop the NE with NZ.

yes until the rules changed and we were invaded. its easy to say oh yes that was government when it was a fact of game mechanics.

oh im leaving dont worry about that.

not saying to cover it up, just saying that using it as a political powerplay on election day is exactly the reason why there is nobody left in eaus.

Tim I have openly told you about your inability to be MoFA, I know what the other countrys think of you so please PLEASE stop pretending that you did anything special

You couldn't even find your way into the EDEN room without me holding your hand (and you had beem MoFA for two months beforehand)

and how typical to cause a shitstorm and then just leave.

Glad I saved a little dignity when I left eAus.

actually the reason there is noone left in eAus is because whenever someone disagrees with discrate he flames them out of the game. u want evidence talk to wazzatron. flamed and abused on IRC only yesterday.

are you suggesting i should have sat on this information larni until after tim holtz was out of office? tim is now carrying on like we owe him a great debt at the same time he undermines the office of CP.

There is no slander here Tim, just your own words quoted verbatim. You know best right? And if someone is against your judgment just destroy them any way possible and whatever the cost.

your kidding right Larni?

not being invited into an invite only channel and having an inactive CP that didnt fill out the EDEN sheet (and thus didnt give me the password and room name) cant be qualified as hand holding.

and that was 1 week into my first term of MoFA larni. the other month was deputy... but never let facts get in the way of a good story. you know that quite well.

the other countries? lol good one Larni. after this election ill link you to something you will find interesting.

"....your kidding right? ive had enough of dealing with pathetic and unimportant issues when trying to do important stuff..." What, like undermining the incoming CP and lying to allies about PTO, while not worrying about unimportant things like any talks between Indo and ourselves???

"....inform public
ANP slanders me to quitting point...."
Slandered because you fail to inform the community of anything and everything??? Cant stand a little political heat, shoulda stayed out of the political kitchen

"are you suggesting i should have sat on this information larni until after tim holtz was out of office? tim is now carrying on like we owe him a great debt at the same time he undermines the office of CP."

i dont give a shit if you treat me like crap. infact i just had a month of it so i couldnt care less.

also undermines the office of CP
>Sir_c0nstant with his hundreds of thousands of AUD he stole. GOOD ONE ANP

"There is no slander here Tim, just your own words quoted verbatim. You know best right? And if someone is against your judgment just destroy them any way possible and whatever the cost. "

yep exactly. i pick on ANYONE who disagrees with me. thats why i always pick on the ANP right? thats why i atleast try to get on with everyone else right?

What, like undermining the incoming CP and lying to allies about PTO, while not worrying about unimportant things like any talks between Indo and ourselves???

PTO? um wtf are you talking about? please tell me when i said anything about a PTO.

not worrying? that explains why i talked to the indos every night for a week about the issue and ensured that everything worked as planned (eventually anyway).

"Slandered because you fail to inform the community of anything and everything??? Cant stand a little political heat, shoulda stayed out of the political kitchen "

please look in the sensitive section and look at anything this month started by Binda33 or myself

SC quit the game - he knew he was wrong. You carry on oblivious to your ego-centric behaviour - you think that you would be doing our country a favour be destroying it. The ultimate act in feeding your OWN ego.

"SC quit the game - he knew he was wrong. You carry on oblivious to your ego-centric behaviour - you think that you would be doing our country a favour be destroying it. The ultimate act in feeding your OWN ego. "

no he quit the game because he didnt want to be caught.

the country being wiped is not permanent the damage DD could and likely will do is alot harder to fix.

if you think i give a shit about my ego then you clearly have no idea about me at all

typical character attacks when the political heat goes up

Tim Holtz's behavior is truly shocking. I along with many other eAustralia are totally shocked that he has descended into this kind of behavior.

I expected more from him, but oh well.

I have now dubbed this, Timgate.

Oh man...Tim don't quit your epic man, don't listen to these flamers. But if it is true I wouldn't recommend politics for a while.

Goodbye another great player...

It is true. The logs are legit. You can't honestly expect to pull nonsense like this and then not be criticized.

well to be honest DD i could see you doing a lot worse and after the abuse i recieved not that long ago for deciding not to vote for you and vote for who i want to ... which is what i am supposed to do you see you act as if this is totally worse than what you have done and i would not have been surprised if you did the same... or worse.

i know maybe for a laugh the nation should vote in a noob like me. after all they cant do as much damage as the vets in this game.

Discrate good luck. If you need a hand let me know, provided its a reasonable request you never know I might just help you out on the quiet of course 😉

There are fair tactics and unfair tactics, and then there are just outright dumb ones. This log alones shows the mentality of those who have been ruling the country....

Infin, no I don't think you should have sat on the log, I know I wouldn't have but lets be honest it was a political play. I recognise the manouver 😉 and considering I can sit on the fence and cast judgement then I find you guilty.... now give me twenty Hail Mary's and beg the good lord for forgiveness.

It would just be nice for eaus to grow beyond this petty bullshit.

Tim what ever your motives you must see that you deliberately trying to undermine the democratic process is wrong.....

All this makes us look such total bloody fools.
The eindos (and everybody else) must be laughing their heads off at eAus the land of clowns.
"It would just be nice for eaus to grow beyond this petty bullshit."
How about we to what Larni suggests and STFU. Give DD the chance that he is entitled to, and show our displeasure,at the people responsible for all this, privately in all future elections held

"well to be honest DD i could see you doing a lot worse and after the abuse i recieved not that long ago for deciding not to vote for you and vote for who i want to"

1. You weren't abused 2. What i said to you has nothing to with your voting preferences.

I always find it amazing how new players make the mistake of trying to jump on hate bandwagons to try to become popular. It always backfires. "oh if i hate this person and repeat lines that other people are saying about him, everyone will like me" lol.

"Discrate good luck. If you need a hand let me know, provided its a reasonable request you never know I might just help you out on the quiet of course"

Thank you larni for this offer. I am willing to listen to any ideas any citizen has.

you know I'm not a citizen right 😉

LOL, great read guys. Great tactics. Can't wait to see what the DoctER has in store for us. Admin is doing a great job too...lol