Open letter from eCroatian goverment to people of eRomania
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by split1700
Dear friends,
As we stand today facing an escalating crisis in eBalkans there is a lot of propaganda aiming at distancing eCroatia from its allies. Articles are being published and forums are being filled with anti-eCroatian demagogy so we have come to find that it is necessary to inform our closest friends of the troubles we are up against.
In our neighbour,eSerbia, we find a element of instability in eBalkans.
eSerbia is most likely a future PEACE member,having already signed a MPP treaty with eHungary.
We are overwhelmed with the amount of anti eCroatian propaganda being spawned in eSerbia.
It was decision in the past month to cut this pro PEACE movement in eSerbia in its roots. However our plans of diplomacy have failed and only thing we are able to now in securing our homeland of eCroatia from future eSerbian aggression is a preventive strike.
Furthermore,eSerbian chauvinism and complete and utter disregard for compromise, not to mention promotion of some things that cannot be tolerated even in a game are a reason more for this action.
They insult and provoke people of eCroatia daily,one of their latest spasms of hate can be seen here on this link where they promote and "sign" for a know war criminal.
Serbian petition for war criminal avatar: http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/90352/explanation-why-is-nikolaz-banned/1
Wiki for Arkan:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDeljko_Ra%C5%BEnatovi%C4%87
This matter has gone beyond the whole PEACE vs ATLANTIS conflict,it is in full meaning of the word an eBalkan barrel of gunpowder that needs to be blown now before it takes proportions too vast.People that are in charge of eSerbia have failed to keep to basic civil decency of eRepublik and they cannot ,from our perspective,be allowed to walk with their heads high after all that has happened. We have all been witnesses to all the "Kosovo is Serbia" threads that have been spawned by these raging nationalists during past month.My dear people of eWorld,I know you have been annoyed by them,what do you think people that are directly involved in this matter in RL feel like.This is an outrage that can only be produced in eBalkans and has to stop here and now.
eCroatia badly needs this war,we are a country who in it's now almost 4 month history didn't have a single training war and our population is suffering because of it.
Only through major organizational effort did we manage to obtain a reasonably powerful mobile force that we can be proud of.But we now need more than this,we need an entire population to get behind our military and strenghten our homeland.
Today eSerbia has an MPP signed with eHungary,a prominent PEACE member.
Tomorrow eCroatia will declare war on eSerbia.
Despite all of this,we cannot continue further without support from our friends and allies as this eBalkan conflict has now spilled into neighbouring country (eHungary).
We are publishing this letter in order to gather support and understaning for our actions in eRomania and in hope to counter any eSerbian propaganda aimed at weakening trust between ATLANTIS members.
In war and in peace your faithfull ally,eCroatia.
President of Croatia
Split1700
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You were to cut pro PEACE movement? You made the eSerbians to ask for some help, because YOU are the ones who want war. It was a croatian TO president there to declare war, wasn't it?
And please don't get RL history into this situation. Or if you want to, lets see who was the first to take a step to this war? No, not eSerbia. They just want to be in safe at least in the first period...
In other words we are gonna kick some ass soon 🙂
hooray!!!!
@NightH
"They just want to be in safe at least in the first period"
So we must wait until eSerbia get stronger, and then attack us with their PEACE?
Proud to be Croat
HAIL ATLANTIS
Djuka: if they would do so, your MPPs would protect you. But at the moment, you are the agressors. You can interpret your agression and territorial desire as a preventive war, but it won't change anything.
Your Croatian TO president is Serbia declared war, and you are about to make the second step too in this war. You are the agressors against a totally weak country. You are not the brave people against chauvinism, but you are the agressive and coward conquerors. Or you just want to be...
This is an sample of eSerbian bile that is prostrated on these articles,read the eSerbian comments:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/help-romania-1-751106/1/all
@NightH you know too much for 4 days old citizen 🙂
sebahmah would make a better job at turning around this clear case of TO and aggression to make it look like a nice humanitarian action.🙂 Anyhow it's always funny to read propaganda (of both sides). The common in the two is that they think the people are fools and fall for such poorly constructed false arguments. Maybe they are right though.
Split je lazov, on se hvalio kako je spremio ljude za TO Srbije, njegova administracija nije dozvolila Srbima da udje u Atlantis i sam je skuvao ovu gorku corbu. Covek nezna sta radi.. pazite ovo sta vam kazem.
Split is very veru BAD liar.. shame on you!
LOL eUmbrella your Oxford English is excellent.
As always, there is "a thin red line" that separates decency from abuse. One cannot take sides in the dispute of who is wrong and who is right - each side's story holds some degree of truth, and the whole truth is almost always in the middle.
You must understand that while this is still a game, real people are found behind it. And it is nigh impossible for some people to control other people. As such, I can't really put the blame on Serbia's leadership for being unable to "control" their citizens, when there can be no control over them. You cannot ask the for the impossible - there will always be a small fraction of users that are knaves, but that does not mean you have to judge all of them for that.
Indisputably, Croatia is a part of Atlantis. Atlantis is an ALLIANCE of nations. To this purpose, Atlantis shall function. It is entirely your decision whether you will choose to attack Serbia or not. As an aggressor, it will be up to each fellow ally to decide whether to support you or not (given each country's current condition); but should you shift on defence, have no doubt that Romania will back you up. Because we have a debt to repay and because we are warmongers. Let us see if your opponents have the balls to enable Croatia's MPPs, with the knowledge that Romania borders both Serbia and Hungary.
With all due respect if you read into the article you will see that the stressed point was that it WAS infact eSerbian leadership that was spearheading the friction between 2 sides.
The most powerful arm of destabilization is aggression, you must agree with me. Croats Political aggression (read TO) to our new and vulnerable country really destabilize our little but proud country. eRep is fair game, but TO is maybe the most dirties thing there, many of you will agree with me. Croats used TO, but this was not regular TO, no man. When they come to power they start to provoke us. At exp. Speaking of chauvinism we have some guy named Franjo Tudjman who ended every his comment with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za_dom_-_spremni!. Many of us were furious for that. Manu of us returned insults = many of us took ban. When our immunity goes down, they will attack us that is for sure. They are stronger of us, they play this game longer of us, they placed their man in ours president place, but still they need their powerful ally to help them. Why? Maybe is time for you to think : do you need this ally? People of Serbia love Romanian people, Croats with their TO departed us from Atlantis. Please be proud, don’t help stronger to conquer the weaker. eSerbia isn’t your enemy.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hrvatski-domobran-tjednik-dana-1-o-ujka-2009-broj-4-744715/1/20
This is the article in which Croat declare fascist ustase a freedom fighters and myrturs, despite the fact that they killed over 500 000 people, and created the worlds first children death camp in wich over 30 000 children was tortured and killed(children under age of 14)
And they justify their TO by our aledged assasanation atempt on their president. For whic they of course have no evidence at all that we did it, but still "The Serbs did it".
PS
Darma Inicijativa is my organization
Everybody knows that u have complex towards Serbia...which u show thru ur moves...first u try to TO us...than on coward way u use our president BORKAN ( croatian ) to declare war to yourself...so it would activate ur MPP...and when that FAIL...u decide to declare war to us...
And beside all of that u have a guts to say u are victims here......shame on u...
Lol @ "Eserbia is possible future PEACE member"
Didn't you ever think that maybe YOU pushed eSerbia in that direction with your actions (Should I elaborate)?
Propaganda FTW!
@Darma Inicijativa - This idiot is permban because I wrote to admins for his ban, and i also wrote to admins to ban player with nick Ante Pavelic and player with name Rafael Boban.We Croatians eliminate every chauvinism in our country,while in Serbia it is encourage,and glorify it.
eCroats is leaded by bunch of Goons, that's the whole truht. Because of their greed, all the people from eSerbia and eCroatia will suffer.
This is a game, it's so true, but that's making me even more disappointed. It looks like that some of the people can't get rid of their RL frustrations.
When words can't tell anything, music can:
(Johny Cash - You can run on for a long time)
Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What's down in the dark will be brought to the light
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/help-romania-1-751106/1/all
some of eSerbian's comments:
tehnokrat wrote: "Admin in Serbia is Romanian, currently involved directly in pathetic Croatian takeover attempt! Death to Romania, freedom for Hungary!"
Stevan Mokranjac wrote: "Atlantis could be considered as an imperialistic pact under a democracy mask.
My contribution goes to the Hungary."
noisy43 wrote: "Go Hungary and Indonesia!"
StvD wrote: "go hungary and indonesia, romania down"
etc. etc.
and now stevan came here to blame us infront of romanian ppl...ccc hypocrite
@ Tractor Tom
As you are declaring as trustable ally of Atlantis, can you answer an simple question:
- How can you explain that from new made country (since from beginning of eSerbia in this case), with your actions against it (congress TO, president TO, ruining economy...), you are making "Atlantis enemy", and now you using it as excuse for your future actions... Is it Atlantis politics (I doubt) or is it how you "helping" Atlantis (I doubt again)?
Traktor Tom, those are only words that you provoked. How could else I understand the situation and Atlantis after what you were doing in eSerbia. Please explain it to me. What moves you made to bring peace in eBalkan? Give me one simple answer and I will apologize to you.
Since foundation of eSerbia your Goons are trying do bring disorder into our country and into the relations between eCroatian and eSerbian people. Acta, non verba! Please stop be pathetic and say to the people that your goal is to conquer the eSerbia. At least you will look like honest soldiers.
For me coward is someone who wimps for help even he is much stronger and even he have every opportunity to win. I ask you brave eCroatians can you denied this???
And I ask proud eRomanian people, will you help this cowards??? Do you really need cowards for ally??? Why they didn’t attack Hungary ( your really opponent) if they have so desperate needs for war, and then ask for your help ????
Please stop whining, it is so irritating.
Poor Croatians cry because TO failed... That's sad. And for your consideration, im citizen of one of ATLANTIS countries, for me you were agreesros twice atm.
Don't you think thatinstead of Enemy its better to make ally? and if that's impossible make cease-fire?
Your diplomacy bring new threats to all of ATLANTIS members because of you selfishness. Serbia wanted some peace for starting economy thats why they were looking for Protection, this time from Hungary. And honestly im not considering Hunary as PEACE atm, they fighting to get their own regions back, not to block Romania against Indonesia. Do you need to bring you IRL hatred to game?
serbians are a pack of liars and plotting warmongers, they are always up to no good
@Lipec
yes,i think we are the trustable ally of Atlantis,we fought in every war when we got a call for help,but nvm,this is not important now...
Lipec serbian leaders were pro Peace even before Serbia joined 11. 2. ask your leaders azoo lazzo,nikolaz(now ex) why did they helped your "Russian brothers" in takover in Norway...ask them what was the answer when we ask them to join Atlantis and offered help in this case,even before Serbia joined...ask them what did they in eAustria etc etc and yes,i wont count attempt to ban our president cuz u will denie it for sure...
and at all is it parole like "death to romania" proper?what eRomania did to u?heavily insulting Croatians is not enough,now u gonna jump to all Atlantis members?
@Borivojee
cmon,u are not a dumb guy(i suppose...) u know we can eat u alone,but u also know that peace will put their fingers in, so dont ask dumb questions and use your brain 😉
my last post here,trolling and stupid arguing without the end is pointless
For your information Tractor Tom, you didn't answer my question:
"Pro Peace orientated" is not the same as Peace member. There are more than few living person in eSerbia (and FYI people you are blaming are not anymore active or in eSrbian Goverment at all).
When eSerbia joined New World (that's about few days before I joined for example), Croatian actions were already made against everyone in eSerbia (not just few people as you claim).
With your actions, you pushed eSerbia away from Atlantis (I can't speak about blocking any negotiations between eSerbia and Atlantis since I was not involved in it).
Croatian actions in eSrbia (as I said already) with congress TO, president TO and ruining economy for sure pushed eSrbia in "alliance direction" you are now claiming as "fact which you should fight against".
If Atlantis and PEACE are oposite like fire and water, when fire attack you, you are looking for water to protect yourself.
Seems to me like that you (Croats) kicked new born child (Serbia) with goal to steal their candy (money from country by trying TO), and since you failed in it, you continued with your actions to show that this was "right move" since, now, after everything you did eSerbia is "anti Atlantis" orientated cuz we accepted Hungarian MPP.
To repeat my question(s) were:
- Is it Atlantis politics to make new enemies from new born countries? (I said I doubt)
- Is it how you helped Atlantis to become stronger (by making new enemy)? (I also said I doubt)
If the eCroatians want a clean war, they will ask BorKan (TO pres in eSerbia) to forget the retreat button... Let's see if they have balls, or if they just want to be coward conquers... It will be a unambiguous answer.
@Traktor Tom u are not also dumb guy ( I suppose), then you probably know that ours president is your mate and that even whole world help us to defend ourselves we can do nothing. So conclusion: you are bunch of cowards who whim for help even they have every opportunity to win war.
Lipec - Is it Atlantis politics to make new enemies from new born countries? (I said I doubt)
yes,when new born country leaders are chauvinist (do not tell me that they are minority)
Look at this petition an how many Serbs sign it:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/90352/explanation-why-is-nikolaz-banned/1
Petition that glorify man that is responsible for death of more then 2.000 men,women and children in Croatia and Bosnia.
Didi you see any petition when guys with name "Ante Pavelic,Ustaski Krilinik and others where ban,no you didn't,because we Croatian do not support that.
So start to educate your people that chauvinism is not right and that it will not pass in eR.
Hopefully eRomanians are smarter than eCroatians think they are and that they will see through this scheme that eCro is trying to pull.
They failed at declaring war on themselves to activate their MPP's and justify their underhanded actions in our country, then they try to push the idea that eSerbia is hostile towards them (Oh, Jee, I wonder why) and that they need to secure themselves through conquering a defenseless country with a treacherous president.
Is this what Atlantis is all about? If yes, then I AM pro-Peace.
You Serbs amuse me!!!
I cannot say how much, words cannot describe that...
Your leaders, who you chose and support, have war criminals on avatars, insult us in most horrible way, make RL threats, steal your own money and then make excuses (oh liek omgz my acc was haxed, and all the money is gone..it was the Croats...it must have been them they are haxorz) -.-
damn u must be rly stupid to believe that sh**.
Serbia was ProPEACE when they were in Austria, you can look at past fights, and when Serbia came u were calling Romanians all kind of names...
Croatia and Romania are on the other hand, great Allies!
Croatia fought for Romania and ATLANTIS numerous times...
Croatia hasn't made a enemy to ATLANTIS, Serbia was against the ATLANTIS from the very begining...
@Serbians who post here:
Filip Filipovic still plays, you don't have to worry about that
all those who got banned they made a new account...not a problem for them they made hundreds of acc's and donated money to split so that he could be banned (we have a proof where your leaders admit that they are making multi's for that)
And how can you be so blind that you can't see that your leaders are acting like politicians in RL here on Balcan...
"They keep their stupid people busy with some nacionalist story, so they could become rich and turn everything in their gain..."
You may say everything you want, but that's the truth...
I know one battle where Serbia wull win :
ROMANIA - SERBIA 28.3 19.45h
Nemanja Vidic vs Adrian Mutu , I can't wait 😃
our nation needs war badly, serbs gave us plenty of reasons for it , as romanian president said in one interview in cro newspapers , "war in this game bring life , and peace dead"...
so lets have some fun
c'mon, so much cry from e-serbs that sometimes i consider whether to give up the game. it's hard to listen all this crying while playing.
hope our gerilla-president in serbia won't retreat!
and stop offending each other. this game last for months, even years. there is enough time and chances for each reasonable person to develop fair communication.
e-serbs, you must be aware that e-croatia is stronger side, so it is up to you to prove that you are trustworthy - and nobody said that all opportunities for any cooperation dissapeared forever.
@Burin...y ur r so strong that u have to whine to atlantis to protect u from scary serbs...buuhuuu....
@Lipec - You are very wise man (this is not provocation I really mean this),so when you answer me,you forgot to to mention one statement that Nikolex wrote i will quote him "On my avatar is Zeljko Raznatovic "Arkan" i don't see how can he be illegal or inappropriate. He was a solder and a polititian who fought for his country and died for it."
I am sure that you know,that i was writing about Arkan not about NikolaZ
Lipec
Read what zelja wrote, croatia is in that situation
We need war so our country could improve further
It's not like in rl
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With Hungary on our side the ONLY way for Croatia to win this war is to let BorKan retreat eSerbian army and to surrender territories one by one.eCroatia is still very weak country ,although they want to deny it,because of that they are trying to (and they will) attack country that they have ruined with TO.The same destiny will happen to Bosnia,who blindly believes that eCroatia is helping them...no matter how much they are trying to hide their intentions eCroatia plans are clear...they are trying to TO or conquer every new(weak) eRepublik country just to get wealthier and more powerful...in that way they are like eRomania and eRomania will fall soon as it seems.Same destiny will happen to you...neighbors
nătărăilor!!!!
Tito a fost croat, şi cât timp a existat Iugoslavia, ţara asta a fost cineva...
acum, făcută bucăţele, e mic-dejunul oricui îi arde să anexeze o bucată... şi ungaria e, ca întotdeauna, prima pe listă!!!
şi în RL, şi în erep!!!...
poate vă dă prin minte să vă reuniţi măcar aici, în erepublik, că în RL, slabe şanse, la câte minciunele s-au debitat, de peste tot!!!
We, eSerbs, are not the ones who want this war. eCroats did a TO on us, and stole our treasury. They wasted our economy, does it really look like WE are the ones who want this war? Now when we are getting back on our feet eCroatia is declaring war on us... They want to destroy us by all means!
And for this silly story... There is a Serbian writer who once sai😛 Croatians are the most brave people on the world. But, not with their bravery on the field, but the fact that they're not ashamed of anything.
Croatia remember that Poland is by your side in any conflict. Atlantis is not an empty word this is great alliance we all are part of it. So we are with you untill the end and the end is our victory.
Long Live to Poland!
Long Live to Croatia!
Long Live to Atlantis!
Dont listen a croats please ! ! !
You can ask me why ????
I can give you I hundred reasons !
But I dont have space for that ! ! !
They are the biggest liers in eWorld ! !
They are having avatars with war criminals like Tudjman,Ante Gotovina,Ante Pavelic... and many others...
But the Serbs Arent
Only maybe two people (but they are not war criminals and not convinced) and those two people were banned ! ! !
And a rest of Serbian population has a normal avatar and our national flag or something else and maybe that offense them ???
You know why ??
Because they are nazis,ksenofobic people from alwaus...
They are sppaming our articles,confusing our people (beacuse our languages are simmilar) and they put on their avatars Serbian flags and confused them ! They also give a name of party "A Serbian Kosovo" because they know about our tragedy in RL ! And many people vote for them because they didnt know that they are croats and only theirs reasons for comming in eSerbia is to steal money from treasury and to destroy all our eCountru ! ! They done a lot of bad things in eSerbia and we didn done nothing bad to eCroatia ! '
For now we are not in PEACE or ATLANTIS but the ecroats forced us to be closer to PEACE
I must said thanks to eRomania for support Serbia for Kosovo and many other reasons in RL
So we will be maybe in PEACE but I think we can be in good relationships my ortodox friends ! ! !
THIS IS A REAL TRUTH ! ! ! CHEERS ! ! !
Do u eCroats have any honor left in u?
If Borkan ever press that retreat button,world will know how brave eCroats are!
We dont ask for defence systems,nor hospitals,all we have r ppl standing on their fatherland...
So fight us fair... We dare you... WE DARE YOU!!!
"So fight us fair... We dare you... WE DARE YOU!!!"
LOL
Whine whine whine, Croats are evil we Serbs are good
Whine whine
Look at this beautiful poem, it explains how Croats are evil
Whine whine
Take RL out of this game
Whine
Croats are evil, they did TO in Serbia
Whine whine
Croats are cowards
Whine
We don't love you you are evil
Whine whine whine
......
Ridiculous.
Mate I believe the beautiful poem didn't have anything to do with the issue🙂
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