Octavian_F's response to his "offensive" article.
AugustusV
For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, take a look at this: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-cobra-is-back-an-urgent-warning-message-to-all-citizens--920435/1/20#comments.
EDIT: Oh and I (Octavian_F) just want to inform you all that the character in the other article was FICTIONAL, thats why he/she had no name, the character was a representation (and mockery) of more than one person.
And now I just wanna get a few things cleared up here:
1. If I offended any German people for posting "Sieg Heil", thats a dam shame. Stop being so soft and stop whining. Its really not offensive at all. And we're not in Germany. Live with it. Saying "seig heil" is like saying "say hail!", and unless you refer it to Hitler, I do not see two simple words as being offensive. Maybe they were used in a "bad" way a long time ago, but lets not start hatin' on two words just cause they happened to be abused by Hitler. I was referring to Jacobi when I used those words.
2. If I broke any rules of the CAF (I am currently part of the reserves since I was elected in congress), then please kick me out, I ain't apologizing.
3. Although you have to be 14 I believe to play this game, the admins should have maybe moved up the limit a few years because when at least HALF OF MY READERS had NO CLUE that my article was a MOCKERY of the government and was NOT SERIOUS, then it seems we have a big problem. I thought it would be obvious, but clearly some people are lacking the intellect to realize even basic hints.
4. I am not apologizing for expressing my view. At the most I'll change shit if the admins complain. I simply stood up for those who have been unjustly criticized by our government, and I have no regrets.
5. If you want a full explanation for my views, plz ask me in this article's comments down below. I'm too lazy to write em here, just ask whatever you need to know.
I'll edit this article down below, to add any new stuff or to answer to any questions you may have down below in the comments section.
And to all members of the various Canadian resistance movements, I have a personal message for you:
Dear members of the various resistance groups throughout Canada,
Don't let fools like *cant name person because he's gonna cry n tell on me* bring you down. You ARE NOT terrorists. You are honorable Canadians who have gone out of their way to help liberate Canada. You did not just sit by and passively fight (or not) with bare fists, you have organized a well-funded and well-armed resistance, and have put time and effort into liberating Canada. Maybe one day Canada will recognize you as the true heroes that you are, and maybe a brighter Prime Minister will applaud your honorable efforts instead of demoralizing you.
Don't let them talk you out of it, the current regime is corrupt and incompetent (in more than one way), and by praising your efforts instead of condemning them, to hide their own blunders (and prevent losing support and power), they would have actually encouraged greater involvement in this war, you are a bonus to Canada, not something that is weighing it down, always remember that. They are simply afraid of losing power, and such behavior is in my opinion, very inappropriate for a nation's government, who should pledge to serve the people above any other interest.
You have received many personal attacks from various government supporters (mostly ministers and personal friends of those ministers, or anyone that could lose their post if the current government goes out of favor, etc), who have labeled you as terrorists, traitors, etc, and I think its time you received a little praise for your work; thank you for helping us liberate Canada, thank you for putting in that extra effort, and thank you for persevering in your efforts even though some may have tried to discourage, and demoralize you from completing your noble task. Canada owes you big time, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Thank you, brave citizens of Canada.
-Octavian_F
Please leave questions and comments (i'm sure there will be many), or praise for the brave Canadians who fight in the resistance movements, down below.
Thanks for reading.
Comments
Thank you for being awesome 😃
lol, I can't believe you actually had to make a response article.
You have hit a raw nerve and that’s why there is an absence of any real government cooperation or discussion with the so labelled terrorists movements, free citizens combining resources to contribute to the liberation of e Canada are seen as a threat to the status quo and not a resource.
Any leader who values the citizens of one country over e Canadians should step down and resign, it is a disgrace to the office and labelling e Canadians as second class citizens over another countries citizens is neither Presidential or leadership.
These actions are divisive to the nation not unifying and it is the current government that is responsible for the friction and potential fracturing of a nation. It is the classic signs of power seduced individuals who will do and say anything to retain a position of privilege with disinformation and a poisoned pen, it is propaganda spun to confuse the citizens of e Canada.
@RiffWire: exactly.
Wow I cant believe you had to make this.
Normally you make a response to someone eles articles. This ego of your's is getting bigger and bigger as you seem to be talking to it now.
It took me 3 minutes or so to read both articles and the comments. I demand another article with excessive commentary replies to complete my 5 minutes of hate.
Btw, doesn't anyone see he is actually ridiculing the whole issue and actually has a non-partisan approach to the matter. ...that's it right?
That article was the funniest I have ever read on here. Gave me a huge laugh. It pains me people couldn't see the joke though.
You know, it might have been simpler just to let PEACE keep our country. At least then we could all have had a common group to trash talk. 😛
If you guys move the age limit up, I won't be able to log on.
I'm only 13 🙁
..... and I hate to break it to you Banach, but I'm your father, now get back upstairs and clean your godamn room!
@Johnny Canuck: hey I'm not "trash talking", I simply wrote a funny political satire to mock our current corrupt and inadequate government. I don't see this as "trash talk", I see it as "constructive criticism", or even as "blowing the whistle" (lol that one sounds a lil gay but its a legit saying).
I think I am doing Canada a favor by opening the eyes of my readers, I don't see it as starting a useless flame war, which is TOTALLY different.
Nice try. All I really care about is the Seig Heil. You realize that's so offensive in Germany that you can be charged and serve three years in prison?
Ayeshan Dakseus@Yes I know that the Germans are terrified that ancient racist feelings will once again emerge if Hitler's name or anything to do is mentioned. What can I say, they went from a ruthless nationalist nation, to a paranoid economic superpower. W.e. as long as they make em BMWs, Mercedes, Porches, etc, and they let normal citizens not only officers in high command drive them, and they let Hugo Boss design clothes for normal people not only Nazis, then hey, I kinda like this "new" Germany.
BUT
This is eRepublik.
And we're NOT in Germany.
@Ayeshan Dakeseus: so stop bein a lil *censored* bout it and shut the *censored* up.
Octavian I want to grow up to be just like you! Great couple of articles.
@Tenacious: lol thanks man. Well if you like em so much then by all means please subscribe, lol. I'm jus getting warmed up tho, after 3 months of very few/no articles, I'm gonna make a comeback. 😉
@Chucky Norris: lol so if someone writes an amusing article criticizing the government, then silly trolls like you come along with bs counter arguments, which I then have to respond to in another article, that makes me have a "big ego"? I suggest you wipe that sand outta your vagina.
And lol dude shouldn't you be holding your leaf over Jacobi's head? I hear he's quite sensitve to the sun. And hey while your at it, wave it a lil, to make a slight breeze, I know he likes that. And don't forget to agree with everything he says! That part is key if you wanna move up the leadership ladder!
Are you sure they are not terrorists?
I am positive that there was one under my bed.
This has me concerned. Please don't make light of my concerns. They are well founded.
Now where did I put the tin foil ....
You know what they say about flaming war on the internet?
It's like the special olympic's, even if you win you still are a retard.
Getting back to this, I just feel pissed when somebody just keep on putting shit on people I know are working hard, So If you can treat them like they are worthless dummies, I won't standby and say ok, freedom of press, let him say what he has to. Most of what you wrote is pure crap to discredit jacobi, the whole caf and people who are working hard for Canada. I know you support the Ressistance movement, but it's not like if we have done nothing good this past month.
And having another Pres wouldn't have changed shit in the odd we we're up agaisnt, even Spain fell. But no, if we would had someone else in command we would surely have won.
@Chucky Norris: lol you started it.
And the government failed. And I'm not saying EVERYONE, jeez technically, being a congress member myself I would have basically been attacking myself as well. But certain members like Jacobi and his followers are corrupt failures and should be removed from the political area.
You're just angry cause I made you look bad. Lol
@Chucky Norris
shut up and go away already
@Chucky Norris: oh n ur special Olympics comment, dude thats soooo old. I've seen it used on utube nuf times. lol
LOL, chucky Norris, you fail! 😛
I mean, come on, how lame is your special Olympics joke.
Everyone lets just stop hating.
lol oh okay it was a joke, that makes much more sense. 😛
I would just like to add Chucky, that if you're into politics, you have to be ready for these kinds of articles. I'm sure Jacobi is a big boy and can fend for himself. I've been through much worse, and I know people who've been through even bigger hell (Cottus Arci) inside the political arena.
Octavian thats the second time of reported your comments and articles, for 1) Violating ERepublik Rules On Language use. 2) Violating ERepublik rules on Trolling and 3) Violating all the laws of ERpublik in 2 days Want make a comeback I suggest you wipe up the crappy act, also I can report you for other things but I'd rather see you warned by Admin and not banned.
As for the Canadian Citizens, I dont mind answering questions, but getting 15 and 20 pms a day asking about what the government plans on doing, idk, im no longer part of the current Canadian Administration. You can send your complaints to either Jacobi, the current Prime Minster or WDuncan his new Deputy. No offence to either men, but these are PMs that you should answer not me. Dont mean to sound rude, sorry if i do.
Oh fun to read articles, subscribed.
"Saying "seig heil" is like saying "say hail!""
-He also ruined a perfectly good style of moustache.
I hate that guy
on the plus side my friend got a whole months work playing the new wolfenstien game and looking around for any references to nazi germany so they could be removed from the game so it could be sold in germany.
sounds like the whole country needs to go through some post traumatic stress disorder treatment (where they force you to face your past and get over it)
having said that i cant believe the sheer number of people who run around reporting people to the admins for anything they can think of just because the article contains an opinion or thought contrary to their worldview.
does not sound all that democratic or free to me. considering the number of young people who play this game it really frightens me to consider what these people will do to those who critizise them in real life both now and in the future. more so if they happen to go into real politics where i dont know if you have noticed but the media is much harsher then anything that can be posted here since god does not reach down from the sky and ban the news paper every time they critisize the government for doing something.
food for thought...
Definitely amusing, although it's a shame most of the younger crew won't get the references such as thought crimes, Ministry of Love, etc.
Big ups Octavian. Fantastic articles 😃
Norris - flaming war retards .... hahahaha ... GOOD one! One for my archives.
MZ
Octavian - whatever age you are, you know who Octavian was, so you're in the upper intellect bracket. Plus, I like your shake-the-cage, poke-the-critter-with-a-stick style .. much like my own. 😉
A word on style: there are more effective ways to deride The Establishment; and they don't offend people, even though the idea's the same. Me, what I do repeatedly is say: "(Name), I SALUTE you. Hail ... HAIL!".
Works great for praise, and it gets the point across vehemently. If derision's the idea, try this:
God-Emperor Jacobi, I salute you. Hail ... HAIL!
Presto, same emotion evoked, no offense, and everyone's on your side.
Octavian, I SALUTE you .. in all sincerity, too. And The Farce is WITH you. I'll hail you when you'll master your Jedi Mind-Persuasion powers.
Cheers!
MZ
Crooked - Banach's Dad?!? Hahahaha ...
Must've been an epic series of meetings for those two.
Meeting le un:
Crooked (after light-sabre fight): The Farce is strong in you, but you are no Jedi yet!"
Meeting le deux:
Crooke😛 "No, Banach; I AM your father!".
Banach: "Gaaaaaaaahhhh!". 😮
MZ
shit, they censored my 1st article.
after I went through all the trouble showing how it WAS NOT offensive...
jeez..
Just like your last article Lamesauce!
yes, you offended us. No, it's NOT a shame. get over it and accept this.
You shouldve put these two articles together 😛
but either way, very well written and well done.
@Engywuck: Ok heres my new stance on the issue. If I offended you, thats a dam shame, and I could really care less. Your opinions are of no importance to me. I tried to reason with you, but clearly you broke the rules when you registered in this game, this game is for people 14 and abobe. And we're not just talking about physical age.
So when I asked people to comment, I was talking about everyone BUT you.
Is that ok? That should solve any issues we may have.
@jbdivinus: Thanks.. after all these useless troll flame posts, I'm happy to see a few positive comments. 🙂
dear octavian,
i'm german but i don't care if you apologize or not, personally i think, there is no need to.
but i'd like to give you one or two comments, because we are really not only in germany but in erepublik. we share this game with many players from many diffrent nations all over the world. for this reason it is simply a wrong and, i apologize, as well a dumb attitude not to care about cultural backgrounds and contexts of those players. "i don't care" is a sign of ignorance, which is a great weaknes of mind and character.
the phrase "sieg heil" is inextricably connected with the crimes of the third reich. it is burned in the german and also the european collective memory, not only to those who lived and sufferd in the ww2, but also in the childrens, grandchildrens and so on. to careless use such phases means not less than renew and reproduce a part of the mind-set that was the basis of all racist/nationalistic crimes.
say and think whatever you want, i think everyone has the right to. but try not to be ignorant or arrogant.
If this story was supposed to be a joke, it was absolutely tasteless. But I fear it was not, and the author simply tries to weasel out from a pending permanent ban which I would strongly recommend. There is no place for nutcases like you in eRepublic!
Seig heil is not a crime. Its two words.
Get over it.
I can post a pic of the communist flag, and even make a "communist" party, and get away with it. Even though Hitler was a joke compared to Stalin.
So stop bitching and grow up. I'm not ignorant, I'm just too tired to fight anymore. Its my way of saying, shut the f*** up.
*sigh*
it *is* a crime in quite a lot of europe...
just look in german penal code (Strafgesetzbuch):
§ 86a StGB
(1) with imprisonment up to three years or with fine is punished, who
1. who spreads or publicly, in a meeting or in writings spread by him uses [in germany] characteristic of one in § 86(1) the No. 1, 2 and 4 designated parties [i.e. nazi party] or combinations thereof or
2. who manufactures, keeps available, introduces or implements articles, which represent or contain such characteristics in the way designated in number 1, for the spreading or use [in germany] or foreign country
(2) characteristics in the sense of the paragraph 1 are in particular flags, badges, pieces of uniform, slogans and greeting forms. The same counts for characteristics easily confounded with these characteristics.
(yes, badly translated)
Your arguing "there were worse people than Hitler" is usually only heard by neonazi people, usually with "Hitler did good things, too" shortly afterward and a list of supposedly good things he either never did, was not responsible for - or are simply disgusting.
If you want to associate with this kind of people, feel free.
But I *strongly* advise you *never* to come to germany and shout "Sieg Heil", even if joking. *We* think Hitler was one of the most evil persons to ever have lived - and act accordingly.
(Please excuse my bad english)
@Engywuck: Well if you all thought he was "soo evil", then I find it quite strange how Germans were able to commit such atrocities. Hitler gave the orders, but the Germans followed.
ANYWAY (that was a tad off-topic there)....
That may be the law in Germany, but it is not the law here. AND, I used it to describe Jacobi, not Hitler.
AND
Yes Hitler did do a great deal of good before he started doing crazy shit n starting wars n concentration camps n such. Any neo-nazi that says that is not lying, he/she is simply looking at only one side of the story, and ignoring the rest.
But I used the Stalin remark to show how strange it is that its appropriate to associate with one murderer, but not with another.
And anyway, in the two countries where I can say I frequently visit in RL, Canada, (where I've lived for 14 years), and Romania (where I was born and left when I was 3), saying Sieg Heil is perfectly legal. So I'm not used to such paranoia about meaningless phrases. So from my point of view, I'm not really used to censoring this stuff.
Like I said the Germans r scared cause they dun wanna evoke deep feelings in the people. So of course they're paranoid as f*** about this stuff. Its only normal. But we're in Canada, and we all know that if you wanna look for the most anti-racist people on earth, you come to Canada. So chill, no emotions will be evoked here.
You can sleep soundly.
LOL you had to make a response article wow 😛
And from the many comments, you can see it was clearly need. Lol.
And its STILL not enough, but one response article is enough, I'm not gonna make a response of my response. I did actually, then I deleted it. 😛
Achually im over 14 and I didn't really get it until I got about half way through. lol
Chucky Norris said RETARD , report him to admins please. This is highly offensive to people who are retarded are related or friends with one!
unless you're a retard chucky that would be the only case in which it was permissable.
**looks closely at chucky with squinty eyes**
@Rainer N: No no no, you're getting it all wrong, only people who criticize the government with good honest arguments get reported for being "offensive", after all, we must try everything in our power to stop them, especially if they bring up good points..
Loyal government puppies get spared such treatment however, no matter how illogical or offensive their arguments really are..
Sheesh, you should have realized that by now.
😛