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Felkérést kaptam egy szerb barátomtól, Lunatic2093-tól, aki Média Mogul és az Indonéziai Szerb Elit Alakulat vezetője, hogy egy írását jelentessem meg a magyar médiában. Nem kérek sem VOTE-ot, sem SUB-ot, mert nem ez a célom. Kommentket kérek, méghozzá minél többet és most arra kérlek titeket, hogy ne pertamaxxxx-ozzatok!
A téma, ami napok óta foglalkoztatja a szerb közvéleményt, az Central Greece. Ez az ő álmuk, olyan, mint sokunknak volt, amikor behunyt szemmel és remegő ajkakkal suttogtuk, hogy "Podolia". Az "öregek" tudják, hogy ez mit jelent. De nem beszélek tovább...imhol a cikk, cenzurázatlanul.
"Dear Hungarian citizens,
As you probably know there is an action, recently initiated in Serbian media that deals with the issue of Central Greece. People in Serbia have shown great interest in this region, which could be seen from at least 10 articles on this topic in the last 3 days. One of them is my article that is very well adopted, and that is very much and very positively commented.
Why am I writing to you today? I have received dozens of supportive PMs and my initiative is very well accepted, but I haven't received neither one message where official position of our Government about this issue is presented. They probably doubt that we have your support. That's why I want to know your opinion about this.
Montaigne recently published an article where the whole plan is detailed and all costs are calculated. It's about 1000 gold total, without tanking; it's the simple cost of declaring war and attacking regions. The plan is to go through Bulgarian regions, and pay them the cost of all hospitals ruined in the process, and the cost of war declaration upon us (that way it's much cheaper then in reverse way, with Serbia declaring war upon Bulgaria). As we could see in one of the previous Montaigne's articles some Bulgarian players with great influence (Chukcha, Grakulan) seem to be willing to let us pass if we pay.
So, this is my point: CG is going to fall soon, it's the last High Iron region in ex Atlantis countries. There are 2 possible options: it's going to be conquered either by Turkey or Serbia. In both cases, the full support of our alliance is needed. I will tell you what is my opinion about this: Turkey had it's chance and in the last few days they acted rashly, they spoiled some battles and that's it- almost every original Greek region is now liberated. They still have a chance to reclaim CG if all of the PEACE countries support them, both politically and on the battlefield, but I suggest another solution: support Serbia! Unlike Turkey, we have the potential to defend it, and, observing the performance of our soldiers in the last few weeks I think that we rightfully deserve it. What is our advantage over Turkey? As I already said, we can defend it, I think that Turks now see themselves that they cannot do that, we can deal at least twice more damage (also have in mind that majority of our players is still at levels 13 to 16, they will still develop, unlike Turks- they almost reached their max potential); also, there's more than 3000 active Serbians in this game, most of them living outside our country's borders and fighting in every major PEACE battle since the days when Romanians were pushing Indonesians to Karnataka, we are still a member country of PEACE... When we felt that there's enough Serbians in eRep we TOed Croatia successfully, now we feel militarily strong enough to have CG. (normally, with your support).
We need to know if there's any support for our initiative in PEACE? Almost 600 Serbians voted for it, it's one of the most voted articles in Serbian ever. We have always been a loyal ally, look at the damage we made for PEACE in USA, Canada and Spain (beside that, most of our experienced soldiers are not in Serbia!). Write your opinion in comments, and I would like to see what your leading individuals (Falban, Llevi, Shaok, Rlazol, Zoli, Kampec, Lisztes, Feherlo and others have to say on this topic). Thanks for reading, and thank you Montaigne for publishing this.
Best regards,
Lunatic2903 "
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Vote!
friends, waiting for your answer 🙂
molim vas, ne stavljajte komentare tipa vote ili glasao, mora da bude rasprave u komentarima!
Ja nemam sta da komentarisem. Neka braca Madjari sada kazu sta misle.
🙂
Someone has to take the last F/E high iron.. eTurkey obvously can't, help eSerbs show what can they do 🙂
Find a way to agree with Turkey. For them it is also about RL issues, so other regions mean a lot to them too.
The money part can be easily, settled, for instance Serbia could pay a monthly fee to Turkey.
After that is done, we can go to the easy part, conquering a country 2 on 15 🙂
Good Luck to Central Greece. 😉
Friends help friends, especially when both friends gain something from it.
"After that is done, we can go to the easy part, conquering a country 2 on 15 🙂" LOL
I think Turks will be satisfied to have 8 other Greek regions, that would be reasonable in this situation.
Sorry but I dont understand why should we take it from Greece.
They were Peace members and still be part of us. Whit 0 import tax you can have iron mines as in your country, just the tax goes to Greece.
Nem igen örülök hogy már szinte a koncon veszünk össze. És osztogatjuk a görög területeket mintha nem lenne bőven görög a játékban. Canada és USA legalább ellenfeleink voltak de a görögök?
@Vojko Mrdic: it is also about money. A high iron region makes lots of it. But the honest truth is that if Serbia would give Turkey the money they would be making of it, Serbia would still have 75%+ of the money left. So things can be worked out there.
@Varga and Varga Companies: which game have you been playing in the last 8 months?
Well, its a hard choice. Since both countries are Peace members, I dont want CG to be a reason to break friendship. Though, I admit, that eSerbia is a lot stronger now, and has better potential to keep CG on long therm.
It will be a hard decision to the leaders of Peace. Either way, I think Hungary gives full support to the country which decided by the leaders of Peace
Varga and Varga Companies: greece as a peace country was quite long ago. Now they have exAtlantis MPPs, and fought against us everywhere
vote! I think both serbia and turkey deserve central greece. They are great allies. We need more high iron region! 😃
pls vote this article
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/n-ha-le-kell-sz-llni-a-magas-bivalyr-l-893028/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/n-ha[..]/1/20
The point is Serbia can't take Greece alone, also cant defend it, since someone else decided to take it, and seperate it lot of gold.
Do you remember how they liberated Central Greece?
USA spent more than 5K GOLD for it!And this war ended after than like 25 hours, maybe even more!
And dont think Serbia can defend it, if same thing happens.
How can they do?Do you really believe that?
They cant do it alone, they would need help again.And if we are talking about getting help, Turkey is Hungary's ally too.
So situation is same, i dont think CG should be Serbian.
CG for Turkey!
The VeS (Army of eSerbia) turtle supports you Lunatic2093!!!!!
If eSerbia with their number of active players can't defend it, what chances does Turkey with three times less players have?
lol, this world is becoming too small for the inflated egos and the huge bellies of the PEACE countries. It's not even funny how power hungry you all are. (At least the bigger countries.)
It's disgusting how you are arguing over the fate of an innocent country that never ever attacked anyone and only fought for her own territories so far. How PEACE treats Greece is a shame for the alliance.
Also if Greece was a PEACE member when Turkey first attacked them, then it's PEACE who let Greece down and not the other way around.
Ja, és hogy a korábbi kérdésed megválaszoljam, a BH medálokat kb. 20-25 goldért szokták eladni Magyarországon. Amikor Thaifölddel egyesültünk nemrég (mármint Malajzia), akkor pedig 15-20 goldért tudtál volna venni egyet nálunk.
@clawly Of course its money, everything's about money. It's up to Turkish and Serbian diplomats to get the deal.
@BattalGazi Neither Turkey nor Serbia can conquer it or defend it alone, we all know that. But I think one thing will be decisive: PEACE has more interest if Serbian economy is stronger (as Serbia is stronger than Turkey, Serbia borders with Croatia and Romania...) than the Turkish.
CG for Turks, hey Serbians come to help Turkey to conquer whole Greece, and get the other iron regions, but CG is ours. You cannot defend it yourself. Also Hungarians are our blood brothers 😉
I think that Serbia has a better chance to save the CG.
Serbia is numerically much stronger than Turkey.
These are the facts.
BattalGazi
You could not defend what you got. You are outscoring the Americans in the number of lost territories per day. It's a bit funny what you write here. Situation is not the same, our army's power is way bigger than yours, those are pure numbers. I think that we can defend it, and I also think you can't. This is my opinion, I would like to see some more comments about this...
@Naygcee eGreece should blame the admins for giving them high iron region... 🙂 Why do they deserve it more then anybody else? And eGreece fought very hard against liberation of eSerbia so they should feel the consequences now...
still can be part.
Sorry
@Lunatic2903
This is of course your opinion, just your opinion.
Also for my opinion, your opinion is very funny 🙂
USA is weaker than when they try to take CG.Can you deny this?
Serbia also was an innocent country that never ever attacked anyone and only fought for her own territories, and Greece helped Croatia in war against us when we fought for freedom.
Also, PEACE gained control over numerous regions in North America, and Serbia make 3rd biggest damage in that war. What we have from it, bigger exp?
Nagyzee 17 minutes ago
lol, this world is becoming too small for the inflated egos and the huge bellies of the PEACE countries. It's not even funny how power hungry you all are. (At least the bigger countries.)
It's disgusting how you are arguing over the fate of an innocent country that never ever attacked anyone and only fought for her own territories so far. How PEACE treats Greece is a shame for the alliance.
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I agree with you...
I think Turkey has a priority over the region, but if they just cannot conquer it, well than the Serbs deserve it
I don't want to go off topic now, BattalGazi. I'm not eSerbian political representative, I just wrote this to see what will Hungarians have to say about our chances. Odds are against us as they are against you, but we both know we need our allies' help to conquer it. There's no doubt about it.
My point is that our chances to defend it are far better than yours. They are all weaker now, but they are not weak. We should not get too carried away by the sweet taste of victory against Americans.
I dont think you will get our support.
We like both Turkey and Serbia, and most of all they are both part of PEACE.
Dont make us choice.
Sit down and make a deal. Im really sure we will support whatever you two decide.
Just to remind you
On the day of giving citizenship eSerbia was 7th country by total xp points.
How about get Admin add Kosovo to the game with high iron?
Kosovo = Serbia
Central Greece = Turkey
🙂
You said it yourself, you ruled it for 6 months and lost it... Now it's eSerbia's turn... eSerbia is becoming too strong to just sit there and do nothing while everybody gets their piece of cake...
Turkey needs this region and preparing for long long time because we have ruled this region more than 6 months until the ex-atlantis attack with more than 5k gold...we have invested thousands of golds and tens of iron companies in that region..This region is vital for Turkey and can not release it..this is not an ethic demand for eSerbia..
It is up to Turkey and Greece to make a deal. I think PEACE should stay out of this... Serbia should make an offer to Turkey about it, but if Turkey wants to keep it, they have a priority, since it was their region until the Americans liberated it.
Both countries fought numerous wars on our side, it would be a shame to let either of them feel deceived. So I think other countries (including PEACE in general) should stay out of the matter. If Serbia can make a good enough offer to convince Turkey, then be it. Otherwise it's Turkish territory...
Ohm.. btw its really sad to see whats happening here...
The war is far from the end, and our best friends already biteing eachother. And for what? More gold... This is what PEACE as a commune means for you?
We know the fate cant avoid the big nations/alliances and they have to fall once. But its really really disapponting watching how it already started, even befor we could reach our goal.
Ofcourse, if Kosovo with high iron is implemented, CG is all yours 🙂
As i told you before Lunatic, no.
Your chance depends on your opponents' power, money etc.
And if your opponents have enough money they can do it, when USA take CG back, they spent more than 5K GOLD, even so they couldnt finish the battle in 24 hours, doesnt it show that Turkey can defend it as well?
(Unless they wont come with 10K GOLD 😛 But i dont think you can resist either ^.^ )
hungary is more powerful country but they did not ask for CG..justice can not change according to the power, especially in an alliance..
As a hungarian I dont think we should choose who gets CG. Of corse we strong enough to conqere it but i dont think that Hungary should be the country that conqeres teritories for everybody that ask him.
Its NOT Hungarys rule to deside the future of teritories always.
We do like Serbs and Turks. When ever of you will be attacked I will be there to defend you as you did when we were in trouble. I was defending CG back then and helped the serbs to get back regions I will be there when you need me. BUT I DONT Want to fight to conqere CG.
Greece didnt had the chance to choose us. This problem should be solved by diplomats not warriors. Or at least i think this way.
Serbs are good guys.
@Vilendor
What we are writing here are not official demands from any country, it's just some citizens' opinions. Don't think that this will destroy PEACE or make eTurkey and eSerbia enemies. If the two countries can't agree, then neither deserves help from PEACE in forthcoming battles for CG.
The fact is:
Turkey has 800 active citizens, Serbia has about 3000
You are longer in this game, and far stronger individually, but in total we are stronger, right? I'm not suggesting that we should take CG without paying you in some way, but it's up to politicians. I also know about your companies there, I'm never writing without preparation. There are ways to make a deal about it, I'm sure, but if looking for odds to defend it... you cannot persuade me that you are stronger in total.
Lunatic,
Well, lets say, you are stronger than Turkey.
And you say, you should take CG because of it.
But the things doesnt work with this way, if they works like youre telling then the worlds is only ruling by Hungary,Indonesia,Russia.Do you remember that they are more stronger than Serbia?
I am going to Kartal's point, "..justice can not change according to the power, especially in an alliance.."
nothing personal, serbia needs high iron region, central greece is the closest one, serbia is stronger than turkey (it became stronger even tho it was much harder for us coz we did not have high region unlike turks and coz unlike turks we were close to not having a country 😉) so its only logical that we should be the ones to get it, sorry turks but we are simply just greater asset to the PEACE 🙂
well thats my opinion 😛
we have enough power(gold and high skilled soldiers) to defend cg,but it is hard to conquer because of mpps..it is also hard for eSerbia to conquer it without peace support..
BattalGazi, there is zero justice is in this whole business no matter whether you or Serbia takes CG. So it's kind of funny that you argue about which solution is more just.😃