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Why? You are doing this in the worst moment. Chile will be attack by Croatia that wants to reach NZ to have colonies far away of Serbia, and we need full damage to throw Croatia away...

And the problem is not the NE of NZ, couse it will not pass, the problem is this http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Argentina/116458 ... That NE will pass I think.

You shouldn't have proposed anything without consulting with government, or at least party president. Reasons are numerous and we already made plans for NE law for the mission. We also have AGREEMENT with Argentina about NOT ATTACKING each other, agreement that only serves us.

With this move you have broken it, giving them excuse to attack for real. You have most likely sealed the fate of this country for next (long) period, and you have harmed our good allies eChile.

Considering geo-political and military situation - Croatia and Romania in the north - you have just most likely screwed up plans of CoT alliance for this matter, and it is going to end badly for us.

And all that for 60 strength points.

no comment, shame on you

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How did you get into the Congress?

You can't do something like that without talk with current gov. and gov need to talk with their allies as well, and to consider serious think like wars, why to get you 60 str because of mission? you are ignorant idiot.

Terrible move. I guarantee that this is in no way endorsed by the KMG or the PnPP. Shame...

And I hoped to save some EBs,... dammit

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We were in talks with Australia and Chile to do a training war on Australian regions. Because of your proposal, Argentina freaked out and now they will be invading us for real. The best we can hope for now is that we aren't wiped off the map for weeks.

You should know better than to do something like this without talking to anybody, and I hope you are knocked down the party list for it.

@trento96 it would be stupid to attack unit or party he's in, since any PP can't control things like this, but this should be a warning to all parties to choose wisely who they let into congress.

for the next month????, in this situation it won't take even a week

lol!

@McGinty.dc - Exactly.

Well considering pp's can now start prioritising players wen it comes to congress just means they can start making lists if people not suitable for congress in future elections.

I get it. Dude made a mistake. He did it on his own. But...Why the hell are u voting yes then?! Current result 21-5??? Where is the official notice on how to vote??? Why didn't u send messages to congressmen on how to vote? Government takes more blame on this one then the guy who proposed the law...

@Gavra: we held our votes till we saw what Arg was gonna do, Arg voted hugely in favor of their NE proposal. It would only hurt us more to vote against it now.

Argentina 36-1. XD

Why did u attack this guy then? : )
He did good : P

The only thing that is left to us, is to fight, like spartans !!!

We attacked him because he proposed NE on his own and we all got frustrated seeing that all efforts we made in the past to secure NZ will crumble down in days.

But tbh, if Argentina was trustworthy it wouldn't be a problem, although told them right away it is a mistake I was completely sure they will vote yes. They were only waiting for the excuse, and the mission issue is there, they won't let this law fail and loose 24h + 24h for new law, and finally they want Auckland to complete 10/10.

I blame this on govt . They didn't publish any article about this new mission . And after the NE was sent ,they didn't contact congress men to vote NO to it !

Newbies congress men are a normal thing and this happens way to often .It's the CP's job to control this laws .

I'm not supporting the guy who sent the NE ,but the fault is on the govt . When you're not active enough ,this happens .

The only thing I can say is that while there can be no excuse for what Semprini did, large part of responsibility lies on the government. Such things can be predicted and are likely to happen when there is no official word and no public activity from the gov on NE matter.

Concerning Semprini, he was a congress member last month, causing ultimately no problems. From this day on I'm sure anyone in head of PnPP will follow Spud of Doom's line on Semprini in its part regarding the party list.

No one was right in this situation. The best and only thing we can do now is to show our best on the battlefield and beyond it.

Oh well, at least we have a war : )
Even if arg is to occupy us, it doesn't really matter, we will eventually free ourselves. It's not like we're loosing precious 10/10 or something. And, war is good for business : )

Just a side note: While this was stupid, and will probably exclude you from the next congress or two, it's not like you'll be blacklisted from the elections. I don't like to hold grudges at least, especially about things that in the long term don't affect much.

When a party is committed to giving young players a shot at congress, sometimes things like this do happen. I would say overall it's worth it to keep our politics healthy and mobile.

Spud of Doom
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The same opinion

I agree, shit happens. But don't blame the government, while they were negotiating war with Australia and Chile to serve all 3 nations, one guy decides for entire country. Negotiations started around 02:00 erep time yesterday, just 2 hours after missions appeared. He proposed the law around 04:00 same day while there was 8 days left to kill 100 opponents.

My point is that shit happens, but the ultimate screw up congressman can make is this, so parties should pay attention to that. And I have always pushed new ppl to congress and am pro giving chance to new guys, but candidates should be aware of their role and should never act on their own, because they represent us all.

Anyway no point in lynching Semprini, we should move on and use this as a lesson. This was the first mistake like this, but let's also make it the last.

It happened becausev you choose irresponsible people for the position of congressman, next time think twice

I´m sure most of NZ will be liberated after NE ends... Argentina has little interest in NZ as far as I can tell.

korujca ,Last CPs ,like misterT ,me or ronell ,when we knew something like sending NE would happen by a congress men ,we PMed all the congress men and tell them to not NE anyone . Not only govt didn't do that ,they didn't even publish an article about it ,NZ MoD article is out of date for lot's of days etc .

We can move on ,cuz we have had lot's of wars with argies before and not in one we completely lost . So it's not like we don't have a chance and in other hand i support to have war .

after 4 month of staying still , i think it was about time to attack and have war . doesn't really matter if we lose or win ,cuz it's just a game in which economy sux . only thing left is the war module ! : p

but i'm saying you can't put everything on this poor newbie . That's where he has to learn how to play ,it's our job to teach him .

Neither Semprini is a newbie nor anyone should lynch him.
It's a lesson for everyone, I think. kurojca is right

But truely for EVERYONE. If there was ANY public word considering the course of government (be it FOREIGN or MILITARY course) I doubt that the conditions for an ill-timed action like Semprini's would exist at all.

And sorry, but I cannot accept the claim of irresponsiblity. Semprini was congressman last month - with no such situations. And people elected him among others.

I am personally glad there will be war as well, its good for economy, for TP points and for the mission. And no matter what we will prevail and sooner or later we will be free again, that's how the game works :😁

As far as government, I was not trying to defend anyone just wanted to point out why we all jumped at Semprini 😃 I agree with the fact this could have all been done better, both by government and congress.

if you gave PnPP 11 seats and I were in congress I would have worked it out hehe )))

You can't blame gov. for this, he is a CONGRESS member, before proposing a law it is normal to consult with someone, if he asked on our official channel, he would be informed. But that probably was to much for him to do.

congressman's from LnP can't set any proposals without talking with the party leaders, and it's up to the party leaders to talk with gov and see if that proposal is good, especially proposal like NE'ing country like Argentina, with who we try to keep good diplomatic relations in the past few months.
Anyway PP's need to look what they will do, who they will chose, it's not only the medal.

Yes, last gov send PM's to all congressman's msg before they do something stupid, but that should never happened in the first place, especially now when they set a new module and PP have more infl. now then ever, it's up to them to chose wisely who they will put in congress.
Anyway we will fix somehow this situation, but more communication is needed in the future 4 sure.

I'm busy in RL, working as hell .. right now I'm going at work, but we need to seat down all PP leaders and figure it out

So, it goes something like this:
Semprini made a mistake by not contacting anyone before he proposed the law. Government made a mistake by not telling congressmen on how to vote, but we're all happy to finally have a war : )

I'm more concerned with no official statements of any kind by our government really, about anything...I think we all like to "be in touch" with current affairs, and right now we're all wandering in the dark.

Government told congressmen to hold vote to see what Argentina will do. And we all did. And I agree with the fact we need more official statements, information, igm's...