New Possibilities for Austria and Hungary
Mikrobi
Die Zeit ist gekommen, dass ich nach vielen Presseschauen mit einer eigenen Außenpolitischen Analyse rausrücke. Obwohl dieses Thema wird immer weniger außenpolitisch sein.
Ich bin der Meinung, dass alle Menschen sollten wahr nehmen, dass in dem Österreichischen Kongress eine Ungarische Mehrheit ist. Natürlich hängt das auch davon ab, ob die Abgeordneten politisch aktiv bleiben, oder nur ihren 5 Gold haben wollten. Ich gebe es zu das TO war nicht zu elegant und es war auch gegen des Ungarischen Regierungs Wille. Aber Politik ist selten elegant, dafür aber oft kalkulierbar. Wirtschaftlich und militärisch war diese Shritt notwendig. In den Regionen was unter Kontrolle von die Ungarische Regierung ist, gibt es zu wenig Weizen, aber es gibt in Österreich einige high grain Regionen. Das Lebensmittel in Ungarn ist zu teuer, dagegen sind die Lohnen in staatlichen Firmen unakzeptabel niedrig. Ungarn braucht high grain Regionen, wie ein Stück Brot! Wenn wir die Regionen von Romanien widererobern wollen, brauchen wir Regionen die im Rohstoff reich sind, wir müssen fähig sein billiges Ernahrungsmittel zu produzieren, und uns militärisch weiter bilden zu können.
Das Einwohnerzahl in Österreish ist etwa 290, davon sind die aktiven Österreicher vielleicht 40. Man kann das auch gut zurückvervolgen aus dem Österreichisem Presse. Es gibt kaum deutschsprachige Artikeln. Also wenn es auch so aus sieht, dass wir ein Land erobern möchten, verletzen wir die Intresse nur von wenigen Leuten. Und es ist gar nicht sicher dass der Eroberung diese Regionen eine negative Wirkung auf Ihnen haben würde. Ich sehe ein Österreichische–Ungarische Monarchie vor mirselbe, wo die zwei Nationalitäten das Land zusammen steuern. Österreich nach seinem Begabungen muss eienem Mithilfer haben, sie sprechen immer lauter von einem Deutschen-Österreichischen Anschluss. Warum könnten wir dann eine Österreichise-Ungarische Staat gründen? Und wenn die Europäische Länder verbunden sich so wie Deutschland das ESA sich vorgestellt hat, dann wird es egal welche seine Region wem gehört. Das liegt auch in PEACE Interessen, dass die Europäischen Länder bessere Beziehung zu einander haben, damit der ATLANTIS Mitglieder, mit dem imperialistichen Rumänien mehr Entfernung halten.
Was am wichtigste ist: ich glaube nicht daran, dass Österreich sein Suverenität verlieren sollte, oder dass die Regionen was wir brauchen ewig zu Ungarn gehören sollten. So bald wir unseren eigene Regionen zurück haben sollte Österreich auch seine Regionen wieder bekommen. Ich biete meine Abgeordnetenkollegen, so in Ungarn wie in Österreich, sie sollen das Zukunft von Österreich unterstützen, so wie die Siedlung von ungarischen Foodfirmen in Österreich und auch die Schillings Verstärkerung!
Mikrobi
Abgeordnete des Österreichischen Kongress
Botschafter in Poland
Für die Übersetzung Dank für Josh-hun!
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New Possibilities for Austria and Hungary
It's time to make an independent analysis about foreign policy after the many press reviews. However, this topic is getting less being foreign policy...
I think, everyone has to accept that it seems the majority of the Austrian Congress to be Hungarian. Of course it depends on wether the representatives will activly make politics, or have come only for the 5 golds. I admit that the TO was not so elegant and moreover, conflicting with the present policy of the Hungarian Government. Politics is rarely elegant, but at least often calculable. Economical, military necessities gave reasons to this step. The regions under Hungarian authority have lack of grain, while there are high grain regions in Austria. The food is disproportionately expensive in Hungary, while the wages are unacceptably low in Hungary. Hungary needs high grain regions! We have to make opportunity to produce cheap food and to train in order to take the original Hungarian regions from Romania back.
Austria's population is altogether 290 and as many as 40 active with Austrian nationality. The local news have almost no german language articles. So, however we are officially preparing to occupy a country, in fact this violates only a few people's interests. And it's unlikely to be exclusively negative for even them. A conception of an outline of an Austro-Hungarian Monarchy is being produced, where Austrians and HUngarians govern the two countries jointly, of course considerating the ratio of the population. Austria, because of its small measurement, needs a patron, it's spoken day by day louder about a German-Austrian Anschluss. Why can not be az Austrian-Hungarian state instead? What's more, if the approching of the European countries proceeds, I think of the conception of the ESA, wich is proposed by Germany, then it will be less stressed which region belongs where. The Interest of the Peace is also the European countries to promote closer relationship and the Atlantis members keep greater distance from the imperialist Romania.
What is also important: I don't think sovereignty of Austria should be wound up, nor the regions, that we need should belong to Hungary forever. When we have taken our original regions back, the Austrian regions must be given back. I ask my fellow Congress Members both from Austrian and Hungarian part to support the future of Austria, the settlement of the HUngarian food companies and the strengthening of the Schilling!
Mikrobi
Congress Member
Ambassador (Poland)
Eine deutsche Übersetzung, oder wenigstens eine Zusammenfassung wird publiziert bald.
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Új lehetőségek Ausztria és Magyarország számára
Elérkezett az idő, hogy a sok lapszemle után önálló külpolitikai elemzéssel álljak elő. Bár ez a téma egyre kevésbé külpolitikai...
Azt hiszem, mindenkinek tudomásul kell vennie, hogy úgy tűnik, Ausztriában magyar nemzetiségű a kongresszus többsége. Persze, ez függ attól is, hogy a képviselők aktívan politizálnak, vagy csak az 5 aranyért jöttek. Elismerem, a TO nem túl elegáns és a kormány jelenlegi politikájával is ellentétes lépés volt. A politika sajnos ritkán elegáns, viszont legalább gyakran kiszámítható. Gazdasági, katonai szükségszerűségek indokolták ezt a lépést. A magyar fennhatóság alatt álló régiókban búzahiány van, míg Ausztriában vannak high grain régiók. Az élelmiszer a magyar területeken aránytalanul drága, míg a fizetés az állami élelmiszercégekben elfogadhatatlanul alacsony. Magyarországnak szüksége van high grain területre! Ahhoz, hogy Romániától vissza tudjuk foglalni nyersanyagban gazdag területeinket, muszáj lehetőséget szereznünk az olcsó élelmiszer előállítására és katonai gyakorlásra.
Ausztria lakossága mindössze 290, ebből aktív osztrák nemzetiségű talán 40. Ezt az is mutatja, hogy az újságokban német nyelvű cikket nem is lehet olvasni. Tehát noha hivatalosan egy ország elfoglalására készülünk, valójában viszonylag kevés ember érdekeit sértjük. És nem biztos, hogy az ő számukra is kizárólag negatív hatású lesz a területfoglalás. Egy Osztrák-Magyar Monarchia elképzelése körvonalazódik előttem, ahol osztrákok és magyarok közösen irányítják a két országot, természetesen a lakosság számarányát figyelembe véve. Ausztriának, kis mérete miatt, szüksége van pártfogóra, egyre hangosabban beszélnek egy német-osztrák Anschlussról. Miért ne lehetne inkább osztrák-magyar állam? Ráadásul, ha az európai országok egymáshoz való közeledése folytatódik, gondolok itt az ESA elképzelésére, amelyet Németország forszíroz, akkor az, hogy melyik régió hova tartozik, egyre kevésbé lesz hangsúlyos kérdés. A Peace-nek is érdeke, hogy az európai államok egymással szorosabb kapcsolatot ápoljanak és még az Atlantis-tagállamok is nagyobb távolságot tartsanak az imperialista Romániával.
Ami még fontos: nem hiszem, hogy Ausztria szuverenitásának meg kellene szűnnie, sem azt, hogy a régióknak, amelyekre szükségünk lenne, örök időkig Magyarországhoz kellene tartozniuk. Amint visszafoglaltuk eredeti területeinket, az osztrák régiókat vissza kellene adni. Kérem képviselőtársaimat, mind a magyar, mind az osztrák részről, hogy támogassák Ausztria jövőjét, a magyar food cégek megtelepedését és a schilling erősödését!
Mikrobi
kongresszusi képviselő
nagykövet (Lengyelország)
Comments
hahahaha...
Hungarians did a TO 😁))
Good job guys
Absolute power corrupts absolutelly!!!
A kormány soha nem támogatta és nem is fogja a TO-t, sem hivatalosan, sem nemhivatalosan. Ennélfogva én semmit sem fogok tenni ebben az ügyben.
The government never supported this TO, either officially or unofficially. Therefore I will do nothing in this matter.
Helyes! Végre történik valami! Lehet továbbmenni a csehek felé! Játszuk már a játékot rendesen! Vote!
@quicksilver, exactly this happened when VP was very active, the Romanian GOV never suported him, but people contnued to blame Romania.
Now you feel what is like.
Sajnos meg van az esély arra, hogy diplomáciai téren elvesztjük az irántunk tanúsított szimpátiát.
Ne legyen igazam🙁
It always takes two to dance.
What can Hungary gain from this?
The Hungarians are planning to permanently develop the economy in Austria working together with the local government. This is not a strange situation in the history IRL of these countries.
The TO had affected the life of 40 people in Austria, but can grow up the economical situation of thousands.
And this alliance won't last forever... "When we have taken our original regions back, the Austrian regions must be given back."
Mikrobi, how are you going to implement this without the Presidency and without a majority in Congress?
Just curious.
you should be ashamed!! imperialists!!! buhuhu!!!
Maybe with your cooperation, Chicco... It's a common interest!
Sebehmah remember Russia? That was government planned and supported? no?
And we are not imperialistts yet. 😃
I don't know, Mikrobi. You try to take over our country, and to add insult to injury you try to force us into a union we don't want. And after slapping me in the face twice you expect that I help you?
I mean, are you nuts?
OMG!!!!1 I can't believe it! You, Hungarians, you that so vehemently accused that TO are a very bad thing, you, member of PEACE that state "we do not support TO", did such a thing?
You hypocrites!
@Quicksilver: It takes two to tango as you said. VP did all of his TO without government support. The mentality of ALL players in this game is that if a group of people coming from a country trying to make a TO in another, the government of their original country is blamed for it (except if they are Iranian, Italian or Indonesian).
VP interest were purely for fun, but this is an obvious political action. I wonder what Germany has to say about this.
Sith: "VP interest were purely for fun, but this is an obvious political action." The eHungarian government doesn't supports this action. But eRomania has proposed an MPP with Petrescus ePakistan...
@Chicco: you have the point. I'm with you and with Quicksilver against any TO.
Chicco, I'm new in the Austrian politics. I've never slapped you in the face and don't want to do it. TO is a necessity. You are not Austrian. Why do you want to make an Anschluss with Germany instead of Hungary? Anyway, the Hungarian Government is divided in this question. What's more, in 7 days will be presidential elections. The next president is unlikely to oppose the TO.
@ Koko: The interests in Pakistan have changed after the Indonesian-Pakistani-Iranian switch.
I see that the intention of this TO is to offer Hungary a grain region because it lakes one. The interests in this particular situation go beyond a countries border and advantages another. Taking this into account I strongly believe that your government is implicated in all of this.
Stop saying the TO is a necessity, I mean, are you crazy?
Attacking your ALLY is a stupid thing to do, you should be ashamed of yourself.
If you want some grain, then take it from somewhere else, we know how to defend ourselves.
You are a fool!!!
Sith: "The interests in Pakistan have changed after the Indonesian-Pakistani-Iranian switch." Changes... 🙂 Like in eRussia, and eSingapore... 😃 Like i said, the hungarian government will not use this situation as i know. (I'm not a part of the government anymore, because of the private actions like this)
I've lived for >5 years in Austria. How long have you lived there?
You know nothing about me, yet know pretend to now everything.
I also believe you are somebody's fake. It is hard to believe that anyone would write such articles after 16 days in eRep.
hamsun: vote please on the new proposal!
The Hungarian government as I said will do nothing in this matter, not only because it cannot do nothing but because we do not want to. Austria is an independent country, and we respect that. I am glad to see that TO-ist have not gained majority in the congress. We did talk about the question of Lower Austria, but the only solution that I was considering was a contract that both parties sign without coercion. I do not entertain any other solution.
Chicco you are from Serbia. Exactly how much better a Serbian president than a Hungarian one in Austria???
Could you explain it?
Impressive! Very impressive. A peace member attacking another Peace member. Hungarians, i you want and need high grain region, come and take your from Romania.
Koko, regarding Pakistan, I officially announce that starting from today, Pakistan is no longer a Peace member. After this decision, Romania has offered full protection to Pakistan. Is that clear enough for you?!
P.S. Hungary will never have Lower Austria. Romania is ready to fully support Austria in case of an attack (military of politically)
Chicco: I take your words as praise🙂 I'm really a rookie, but maybe a talented one. I'm identical with myself. If you don't beleive it, report me, I'm looking forward any examination of the admins. Or maybe ask the members of the government, even kovacskoko, or Quicksilver. They speak with me every day on our chat.
Anyway, I hope, we could cooperate, I'm not your enemy.
wow...
they don't want to merge with you Hungary.
that's it.
and they will not.
so stop writing shit, and come back to your country. think about fight against romania.
Cant Austria just be left in peace? Hungary does not need our land, they are simply being greedy, Its understandable to try and create a more profitable trade link between our countries where both countries can benifit, but I think very few Austrians actualy want a merge.
Not to mention the fact that Hungary is the country that saving Austrians' ass from the evil Romania. And what have we gotten for this? A whole bunch of nothing. Hungarians, why dont we just let the Romanians marsh through Central Hungary and let them occupy Austria Germany and whoever else they want to in Europe? Obviously we do not need more then one region. What for? All of us should just shut up and let the big boys play this game, shouldnt we?
for the first time I agree with Han Solo.
Let this moment be written in the history...
rainbowX whay don't you fight against romanians? this is umbelieveble. such a bunch of bimbiminkia in Hungary
RainbowX, if Romania want to take Austria, we can do it without you. Just because we can. If Hungary will attack Austria, Romania will defend it. Just because we can. 🙂 Simple enough for you?!
Congratulation Han Solo, just play the role of the Liberators like the Russians did. But I have a bad news for you.
Our folk doesn't need your Romanian help.
Welcome
Han Solo, if you want to steal, you can. Just because you are thieves. If I was Austrian I would rather die, than accept your sticky-finger-nation helping me out. At the moment you are helping Singapore, arent you?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Singapore/law/3287
http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1280217
Rainbox, you are too smart to this game. Just tell me what exactly made you think that this guy is a romanian? Just the fact that he has an org in Romania? Well I have one in Austria, so I'm an austrian according to your logic. Next time, better check ten times before open your mouth. Is too much dust in the air and we do not need yours. That guy is a iranian. Also a peace member. You peace guys are just a bunch of thieves and traitors,
SORRY HUNGARIANS AUSTRIA is more German than Hungarian... don't do a mess here!!!
"Koko, regarding Pakistan, I officially announce that starting from today, Pakistan is no longer a Peace member. After this decision, Romania has offered full protection to Pakistan. Is that clear enough for you?!"
Maybe we should ask Pakistan first too... 😃
Koko, please do it. Ask them 🙂 For instance, ask them to sign a MPP with Hungary or any other PEACE country.
watch out Hungary, you are growing fast and probably you will shine in the future of erep as one of the most powerful country, but don't waste the opportunity of being superior even in the behaviour.
This attempt is the worst thing.
here there are austrian people that should have the right to decide their e-future.
This is the moment of truth. eHungarians always blame eRomania and call us imperialist. Now the situation changes, when they become some "little brother" of us. Now they are entitled to annex eAustria because they need food and they have many new born to feed.
The action of the eHungarians even if they were not supported "officially" by the government shows, the nature of all people(if you can have something better, why live in poverty). Welcome to the "Imperialist" club my friends. eHungary is welcomed.
Don`t be hypocrites and admit: the taste of power is grate. Look to RL America.
PS: Now i remember an old Romanian saying: "One who digs another's grave, will finally end up in it".
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/open-letter-to-admin-where-is-our-irr--742755/1/20
pls vote it up
Für den Prónay "Dreckige" Abteilung
Ich glabe dass ihr soll MINIMUM ein Volksselbststimmung halten.TO ist die Mittel rumänischen...Ihr sollt eure Kraft gut verwenden, nicht gegen die WILLE eure VOLK nützen.Ihr könnt Österreich kräftiger machen,und es steht besser in Ungarns Interesse!Und die,beim PEACE HQ werden auch nicht stolz sein und uns allein im stich lassen wenn Ungarn die regionen von EUCH akzeptiert.
Lasst es nicht zu IOn Roata recht zu haben!!Endlisch, wir sind Schwäger...
A Prónay "rongyos" egységnek
LEGALÁBB egy népszavazást tartsatok.Ez a TOzás ez tőlünk keletebbre dívik és elég undorító dolog.Sokkal jobban szolgálná a magyar érdekekt ha lenne egy erős Ausztri aki mellettünk áll a harcban mint egy felszabdalt/elhagyott pacni Európa közepén.Ha kiszakítjátok ezeket a területeket Ausztria sokkal sebezhetőbb lesz!A mindenkori magyar kormány soha nem fogja "elfogadni" ezeket a területeket és a PEACE főparancsnokság sem hsizem hogy büszkén fog kis hazánkra nézni.Ne engedjétek hogy IOn roatának igaza legyen!Végtére is sógorok vagyunk!
Im sure han solo will explain that Victor Petrescu who is stealing pakistan's money rigt now is just an undercover indonesian traitor.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Pakistan/law/3283
or no, he just gonna say: "because we can"
Torgo can only sigh in disbelief. Friendship does not arrive like a thief in the night or grow from the barrel of a gun.
If I start to growl, please dismiss it as me being forced to let some hard earned money and Property in to the hands of Robbers, megalomaniacs and money crazed sadists.
Yours with more than insignificant anger,
Knotsworth.
This is a game and it looks to me like Han Solo is one of the few that knows how to play it. Romania should do whatever it can to make itself stronger and Hungary should do the same. Hungary will eventually take the two Austrian territories it wants. Because it can. Its starting to look like Hungry doesn't have any friends on either side of it. The war with Romania is longstanding, but it also looks like our German and Austrian friends don't want us to grow. So what does that say to us.
And since I am new maybe I can take a new stand on TO's. This is a game. Any tool provided by the game to win should be used. TO's are possible. As long as they are possible they should be used. Anyone who is unwilling to advance their own position because they feel like its immoral is destined to be wiped out.
If we need the Austrian land and our allies aren't interested in helping our 5000 citizens prosper then they aren't allies. Period. We made a very generous offer that would promote growth for everryone and it was rejected. So if a TO is the most effective way to take what we need from an already eviscerated Austria then who the hell cares about morality. There is no morality only self interest.
Wow, kovacsrobi, you are such a fascist. Your posts read like a page taken directly out of Mein Kampf. I am not joking. This is incredible!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ende-der-knechtschaft-german--743612/1/20
Chicco
Wow that's twice you've called me a fascist that's pretty hot. I guess that might be a fair assumption although I would say I am more of a realist at least in terms of the game.
In any case I still stand by my statement you shouldn't be surprised when people that find themselves with power use it. All I am saying is that the Hungarians are pissed and it doesn't really matter why, what matters is that the consequences of that are probably going to be bad for both sides.
Wenn zwei sich streiten, freut sich der Dritte. I'm sure Romania would love to see your troops tied up in another war.