National Forum Drama
E51 Elgrand
After all the bitterness and drama from the old forum camp and sabotage attempts and non-stop engineered votes about which forum/admin to use most people got bored and just stopped using the forums.
This let the old forum faction to load the latest vote so that SMily was to be given the admin keys to the forum.
As I promised to do so, when the vote was tallied up yesterday morning I removed my admin rights from my citizen account and PMd the Admin login details to Smily.
I woke up today and went to log in to the national forum and this is what I find.
http://esouthkorea.forumotion.com">
http://esouthkorea.forumotion.com
Please go and have a look yourself, it kindly gives directions to a 'new' forum that Smily has kindly set up at such short notice it is uncanny.
I was about to say I expected a bit more maturity about it but then again when I think about it this is exactly the kind of thing I expected. Oh well, I won't be losing any sleep over it and I'm not about to shed any tears.
There is a faction of people in this country that will hate on and sabotage just about anyone and anything if it means that they can cling onto the sliver of 'power' they hold as 'rulers' of this make believe eNation.
There is a growing number of players wanting to make somehting of the country and we won't be sidelined anymore. We are here, we are staying and you better get used to the idea as the time for being bullied and hated on has come to an end.
A new dawn is rising in eSK and many are turning towards the light and seeing a brighter future.
ElGrand
Comments
pertamax
that's not nice
Ketigax,
voted, whole heartedly...
God you are a tool.
pageone
If you know smily, you would know he wouldn't do this. FAIL.
😃 Voted
I wouldn't dream of accusing anyone of doing what has been done.
Maybe he accidently gave the login details to someone via IRC or on the other forum and they did the damage?
Fact is I hand over the admin login of a forum i created and administered to help out the community, putting in hours of my own time, made it a friednly p[lace despite the hate from others sore about the community choosing the forum as the home for eSouth Korea.
The person I hand it to has already gone and set up a replacement forum and then this happens.
Coincidence or malicious I'm not casting judgement I'm just reporting the facts.
OLE.. park ji sung!!!
score the goal again!! hail park ji sung!!
To refute your claim "hours after the forum [forumotion] was deleted"
Today is 4/10:
from the "old (freeforums)" forum:
Old Forum is back up! - Mar 29, 2010
After the incident with the forum a few days ago I have finally re-created the forum, and even added an extra feature or two.
Changes:
-Added a new "Thank you" mod, which was recently added by the freeforum staff (although i'm not entirely sure about how it works yet)
-Cleared the remaining arcade scores to be fair to those who had their scores and accounts deleted.
-New Layout
I also thought that we could make use of our calendar by using it as a history book and writing what happens each day instead of having it just sit in the dusty corner of the forum getting no use.
Thank you to elgrand for temporarily supporting the community on the other forum!
Smily Poste😛 Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:24 am
All of you, and I really mean all of you, are really pathetic.
It's a freaking forum.
Guess what. No one cares where it's based. You want an 'arcade'? There are literally a million sites on the Internet dedicated to this.
As for smily; first getting his own forum deleted, then deleting another forum. I won't trust him with anything anytime soon.
The majority voted for the forumotion forum but apparently smily thinks he's better than us and can decide whats best...
There is no solid evidence to implicate Elgrand, smily, or a third party, so can we drop the "Whodunnit" argument for questions that seem to be ignored? Such as which forum to use now, the forumotion forum seems to be getting repaired and voting was for smily to run that one.
Think about it, if we go back to freeforums "the terrorists win"؟
All of you, and I really mean all of you, are really pathetic.
-Likewise
It's a freaking forum.
-Elgrand didn't seem to think so.
Guess what. No one cares where it's based. You want an 'arcade'? There are literally a million sites on the Internet dedicated to this.
-The arcade was a small part of it. It brought those with an interest in the games together.
As for smily; first getting his own forum deleted, then deleting another forum. I won't trust him with anything anytime soon.
-Smily didnt get his forum deleted. Elgrand got his forum deleted too now didnt he? I love how it becomes Smilys forum not too long after the vote and as soon as something goes wrong.
What have you done to be trusted? You are nothing but a faceless account. Who cares who you trust.
The majority voted for the forumotion forum but apparently smily thinks he's better than us and can decide whats best...
-We voted and dropped the issue. We used the old forum for our own entertainment and continued using the new one for official stuff.
Elgrand apparently thinks he knows what is best for the rest of us. Even tried to ram an MPP down our throats before we fully debated it. Called us puttets of the US for not agreeing with his views.
Why not stop talking about these forums? Let's calm down and start to use one, regardless of the forum and whoever manages it!
Because of these disputes most people just stopped using the forums,
and may do that, everything is confusing, chaotic and contradictory talk only about trivial forum.
Forum would have to approach people to help them communicate, to know the opinion of others on various topics
... and most important is to talk about managing countrie, about proposals to improve things, constructive suggestions.
i seriously doubt smily would delete the forum, and in my experience with dealings with elgrand and his complete lack of maturity it seems more to me that this was a planned event that when he saw smily won the forum vote elgrand decided to go "Oh noes, I mustz stopz democracy!" And deleted the forum.
I'm actually inclined to believe now that elgrand may be behind the hacking of my account in some form (account was called spade) considering the deletion of the new forums has a similiar feel to the hacking of my account.
The forces intending to drive this country apart thru lies, propaganda & drama must be laughing in glee.
I'm just facepalming because I expected a better ploy to drive this country apart to be honest.
im agree with Mr Athasnim 😒
This saddens me. I'll not use the new forum if the admin of it deleted our national forum that I liked.
Joseph Orair, don't say that. God is not a tool 🙂
Funny how only you had admin powers at the time of the deletion...
Did Smily hack your account too?
This is the newest battle being fought in South Korea? Goons are running wild in the country, goons who have professed clearly and beyond question in their own forum that they have the intention of overrunning South Korea with multis and taking power solely to destroy the economy and state apparatus and cripple the nation for another several months. Take a look at this post!
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3236447" target="_blank">http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthr[..]6447
...And you're all arguing over what forum to use?
Ehh, that thread doesn't really imply anything except goons are as organized as the FoH is in eJapan. Now don't you have a Spain to live in?
Oh wow, are you guys EVER gonna get your s**t together in eSK??
Like EVER?
A whole team of psychiatrists ain't gonna help at this point.
But a wee hug to Athasnim, and one to Elgrand too, for I forget nothing, and I feel your pain.
Gráinne x
oh man, moved onto running ads in indonesia instead of serbia now?
Yes Andrei, the best thing for SK now is more anti-Goon hysteria.
Stop paying attention to the guy who tried to turn SK into a Russian Puppet and wiped his own forum to frame Smily...
Stay in Spain Andrei, you evidently have no idea what is going on in SK these days.
I never got the log in info. End of story.
Also,
"Please go and have a look yourself, it kindly gives directions to a 'new' forum that Smily has kindly set up at such short notice it is uncanny."
It is the exact same forum and URL that we have had ever since I created the forum over 9 months ago. Its just that everyone was mass IP banned and everything was mass deleted.
Smily didn't delete the forum.
Absolutely despicable Elgrand. Smily would never have done this. You are just upset that you lost the vote and are trying to sabotage.
I'm the only admin on the freeforums.org one now.
You cease to amaze me on the depth of immaturity
seems pretty obvious that Elgrand did it.
Smily has no reason to delete Elgrands forum and then GIVE UP admin rights to Peter D.
If he wanted a coup he would have kept rights on freeforums.
The fact is, both Smily and Elgrand are politically intelligent (to an extent). Smily isn't dumb enough to take such obvious and destructive measures. Elgrand is smart enough to think up such a hairbrained scheme.
"Elgrand is smart enough to think up such a hairbrained scheme." That is an overgenerous compliment.
One thing not many people seem to mention is the fact that had one gone to the "ruins" of the forumotion forum, and clicked on all of the profiles, the post count was INTACT. I had the same number of posts on the destroyed forumotion forum as the day before when it was intact.
One could say that all the other posts were hidden from everyone and all that was left to be visible was the ridiculous smear to frame smily.
Do we really need to guess as to who committed this atrocity? What a GRAND day it will be when we discover who the culprit was crush him.