My reflections on the India-Iran war
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The game mechanics are flawed. There are many bugs and errors. There are many things that dont make sense, or are (in my opinion) irrational. I think everyone knows this, and I guess everyone can agree on that. However, we have all accepted that the game is not perfect, and everyone is trying to "win". During my time here - which is not as much as many of you, I have had some reflections that I would like to share.
This being the new world and all, I kind of find it interesting that the two most populous countries – China and India – do not have many citizens in this game. This has led to some problems, the way I see it. When you have around 2000 citizens, and most of them levels 5 and below, you tend to be a small country according to this game where almost everything is based on population. However, due to real-life issues, India and China have been blessed with many resources – while most countries have not. For example in India’s case, in their original regions, 3 high grain regions and 4 medium, a medium diamond region a high wood and 5 medium wood regions, a medium oil region, and a high and 2 medium iron regions. On the contrary Iran has no wood region, no diamond region, 2 medium iron regions, and 3 high grain regions. Iran has around 8000 citizens and India has around 2000. This discrepancy, coupled with the war first nature of this game, will have no end result other than a country like Iran looking for an iron and wood region, or a country like America try to get itself an iron region in Asia – even if it tries to put it in nice terms like liberation and renting. This has nothing to do with imperialism; it has only to do with the game mechanics (refer to paragraph one).
Now this does have a negative result, country pride is hurt. The main motivation for a country like Iran, India, Canada or whatever country to go to war, is to get its original regions back. And in India’s case, I understand and respect you for that. Ideally it would be nice if we could be good neighbors and try to supplement each other’s needs. In reality we have to go to war. I would like to point out that there are many, on both sides, that like to say hurtful things, burn flags, call Iranian arabs, and stuff like that. I guess not seeing the person you are hurting over the internet makes it easier to do, and xenophobia is quite common in the middle-east and southern asia. The thing that is missing is respect. Iranians tend to not respect India, based on whatever reason, and that attitude has caused a lot of problems.
But this has also went the other way. Although it is common to take cheap shots at Iran from eIndians, eAmericans, and other (normally) EDEN nations, Iranians take their pride seriously. We will not be intimidated, and will not bow down to anyone. We are kind and giving people, but when provoked incredibly stubborn. When negotiations are under way to return lands, if a resistance war starts, not only will the negotiations halt, but they probably will be harder to start again. Case in question in the previous presidents administration, while an agreement was almost reached, Iranian Mafia and (your beloved) Seal team started 4 resistance wars. Yes you got Bihar back and lost the other 3, but at what price? You were getting it back anyway, too bad that you chose to listen to the eAmerican way of doing things, of give us what we want or we will take it ourselves, instead of the Asian way, of hospitality, courteousness, and kindness.
The mere fact that you started your attack at a time convenient to eAmericans and not eIndians goes to prove my point. To be honest and frank, without extreme foreign help, I don’t think you have a viable shot at getting back a region this way. And then even if you do, you will forever be indebted to those foreigners, since they will leave and you will end up with regions that you can’t even utilize, since you don’t have enough high skill workers – see the population argument.
The only pro-war argument I have seen is the hope that it might end up in a baby boom for India. I do not disagree with that argument. It might end up doing that, I dont know. But all other reasonings sound irrational to me.
My conclusions and suggestions?
Looking at the populace, I can say Iran could be convinced to give back all Indian regions except Jharkhand. I suggest that Iran do so, with negotiations on who should be heros and who should start revolution war for medals.
India should immediately ceasefire and return to the negotiation table. Do not let hostility get out of hand. Some bridges may be completely destroyed.
Disclaimer
As I am not in any official body, these are just my views on the matters and my suggestions. Any argument in that regard is valid. I present this in a take it as it is manner.
Comments
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did u see this lady?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/news-amp-views-205105/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/ne[..]105/1
With respect you hit the exact core of the problem. India has tried for months 'n months to negotiate with Iran. Yes the last negotiations were troubled because of the Resistances. But we have tried to negotiate before and that times, India did absolutely nothing to make Iran stop talking. But hey! Iran did stop talking, you know why? Because I think (like you say) a lot of Iranians lack the ability to respect other players.
For example, India has talked successfully with Indonesia, because both countries respect eachother. And I think that if Iran tries to give the Indian people a little more respect, our countries could really live together in peace. Because as far as I know, the eIndian people are very easy at respecting someone else, we just want to be treated the same way.
But anyway, it's a little too late for that. The battle has begun and we are now meeting in the field (which is pretty fun too ^.^)
C'mon this is a game , and we dont have any active wars .
That actually is an acceptable reason for the war, if that truly is the reason.
india broke negotiation on president NEC time,they just motivate seal team6 to start RW,now they claim they were seeking an agreement,its funny.i saw 12 RW when i was entered in eRep that source from india,however they claim they were seeking peace!!!
Do not let hostility get out of hand. Some bridges may be completely destroyed.
@parshang
RW's do not mean hostility,
attacking other countries and taking their regions do.
From what I heard your government talked and promised but never delivered
I really am too busy and tired at the moment to read the whole article regarding the typeset. But I read the conclusion and some parts and it is right.
I have seen some wise points in Brood's comment but as he said himself we are at war at the moment and we have to fight. Maybe there be an opportunity for talk after India went back home!
I believe that in eWorld no land belongs to its RL owners just without strength to hold it.
@parshang
We offered several hospital proposals and waited 6 or 7 months desperately for the returnal of our regions through negotiations(which never were fruitful)..... 🙂
Even then, Indian Govt has shown its faith by requesting its citizens not to fight in the RW's upfront, though it wasn't fair after all... and now u see is what the result of Iran's arrogance towards small countries like eIndia several months ago. We were even theatened that India shall be wiped off the map.
what deal .. what hospitality....give back our regions including...jharkhand... and war ends..... what is there to negotiate
@ Calvinhobbes
you think if we give your rich religions back you will be able to keep it?no some stronger country will get it.
this is e world, you should try to make your country stronger.
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India deserves its regions because they are theirs whether or not they can defend them on their own. It is the responsibility of strong nations to make sure that small nations can keep their regions. If you want their regions negotiate a rent on them do not occupy them then try to explain how you're right to do so cause you can.