My reaction to the deal made by the CP with Argentina
arranhadelas
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After seeing this in this article: http://www.erepublik.com/pt/article/-mod-war-with-argentina-2485250/1/20
This is what i have to say to the CP and his friends:
Why couldn't you ask for a better deal?
We could even join forces with chile and their allies so that they hit argentina by giving them less bonuses and helping us out in the middle.
If we retain the regions or become a real pain in the ass for argentina (who are much more worried about chile than us), then WE would propose a deal were we could have at least one or 2 regions and they keep the others.
Their allies are being striked down (croatia vs portugal to help spain fo example).
You guys, either you want to admit or not, did a VERY poor job in this deal.
We (SPORTING) had this idea way before the elections, as well as becoming allies with slovakia (who are in the same situation as we are now and could become real friends). I even talked with the current slovakian CP (before he became a CP) for a first touch with them (i will send you evidence about that uif you doubt it.
Either you want to admit or not, we had a real strategy for winning us at least one more region. But we couldn't really post it in the media because argentinans can read english.
What was your idea? Staying the same? And what about your timing? We should have got more regions in ongress time (then congressmans would donate their 5 gold medal to the country bank hence more gold).
Ignore if you want, but you know this was a better strategy than your own.
One of you guys even ignored my PM about the ideias of allying with slovakia...
This was a really GREAT chance for us to at least get better than what we are now.
And for those of you who aare still wondering what is the ideas of this governement here they are:
http://www.erepublik.com/pt/article/breaking-news-kalif-batan-s-program-for-cp-elections-tomorrow-2484275/1/20
And i'm not even talking about the IRL money we have spent with CO's to bother argentina...
I'm real pissed off about that deal, and if you want nigeria to grow you slhoud be to.
Best regards,
arranhadelas
Comments
The deal is over 2 months old... it's great how good informed you are! xD xD
And why do you assume that I and my government did not talk to chile and their allies? In fact I know many CPs personally for years and I had many talks before my CP candidature.
But you also must understand, that not everything can be written in public.
I still cant believe this guy became a CP....Please somebody pinch me!
but this was the prime time to get a better deal and you failed to do that.
but send me a PM with prints of your talks and those stuff. We can't help if we don't have communication from you 😉
and please don't ignore my comments on your governement articles. I've already posted that one in your MoD article but no one gave me a response 😉
Do you even realize how low your knowledge is? The deal was made months ago and I did not make it.
An😛 the NE against Argentina was made before my term. How could i have failed to get a better deal, if the whole thing was already made before i way in charge?
We don't need any help from friends of the thief and scammer Juve Leo. Just like I told you when you was naturalize😛 just leave this country alone and take all your friends with you!
Can You give screenshots about beating Argentina?
*about your plans how to beat Argentina
"How could i have failed to get a better deal, if the whole thing was already made before i way in charge"
the previous term where you were also on the government and that probably you helped building whatever th previous CP buil, for better or for worse.
Hell you were even MoFA so I don't think you have an excuse for it:
http://www.erepublik.com/pt/article/-cp-special-thanks-cabinet--2475089/1/20
This comment of yours just know was ridiculous and incoerent.
The deal was made in November. In this time Kalif was MoI. So he didn't have anything to do with the pact.
We were talking about the NE to Argentina, don't change subject.
And even in that time he was in the government. If he thought it was a bad idea, if he would have made his stand.
Anyway, you are all one party so you guys don't have individual ideas. I'm ust trying to get more discusion on this small community but it seems you don't have the free mind to take criticism.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
Lol, tell us more about you have no idea about governmental work!
"We were talking about the NE to Argentina, don't change subject."
No, you guys where talking about "the whole thing" what was made months ago.
"And even in that time he was in the government. If he thought it was a bad idea, if he would have made his stand."
Again: As MoI he wasn't involved in that topic.
"Anyway, you are all one party so you guys don't have individual ideas. I'm ust trying to get more discusion on this small community but it seems you don't have the free mind to take criticism."
Do you see any unobjective comment by me? If your criticism don't have any substance then of course we are argumenting against it.
i don't know nothing about governmental stuff just because yyou say so 😉
so why didn't you commented on tthe part of the aggregated party? Do you agree with it? are heavily involved in their your political ideas?
I don't automatically aggree with everything I don't comment on!
Some of your statements are just so stupid, they are not worth to be commented!
i wasn't talking to you. You are CP.
I was talking to the other citzen, asking that if he and his party have different ideas form their boss.
Though the foxland players might be here because it's easier to get congress medals like one of them said...
http://prntscr.com/5qbbuf
As you can see I didn't even run for congress.
And Alex isn't giving us any contents that we must stand for.
can you even answer someone without give personal attacks? BIG TROLL dude you are a kid behind a screen.
You realise that you just attacked me in your answer, in which you accused me to attack everyone? Quite ironic!
Poor attempt to drag down a community with absolutely no knowledges. Irrelevant that is.
Ok, so what next in order to make eNigeria a better country? What are your ideias?
Are you all an aggregte of partys commanded by one or two persons or have your party got any individual value?
Hail Slovakia. < 3
"If we retain the regions or become a real pain in the ass for argentina (who are much more worried about chile than us), then WE would propose a deal were we could have at least one or 2 regions and they keep the others."
so you say you would be satisfied with one OR two regions, our deal includes one region. I can't see your problem.
obviosly we should''ve tried to get as many regions as possible but i can't tell you if argentina would agree or not. Asking for one region would be the last resort to avoid a complete wipe.
But in my humble opinion, i really think that with that agenda, argentina would give us at least 2.
But are you going to say that you don't recognize the potencial of this ideia?
Who told you that we didn't talk about a second and a third region?
I am.
as my answer will be quite long and won't only apply to you i will post an article containing it.
Our point with the CO's was to prove to argentina that we are active and that we can keep doing what we did in order to bother them. Then we would propose a better deal (when they would be really down in their war with few regions) and since they already know that are willing to keep bothering them then they would give us 2 or maybe 3 regions. We could even become allies with Argentina.
It's called manipulation.
What you did was just asking for more without showing nothing. And they didn't care obvisouly.
But you said it, with our idea we could get 1-2 month with 2 regions. With your deal, Argentina will wipe us AND THEN WE WOULD WIN A REGION VIA RW. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL LET THAT HAPPEN?
I hope i'm wrong, but what insurance have you from them? Their word?
Lol, you better stop writing now, it just shows how low your knowledge about eNigeria is!!!
"Our point with the CO's was to prove to argentina that we are active and that we can keep doing what we did in order to bother them. Then we would propose a better deal (when they would be really down in their war with few regions) and since they already know that are willing to keep bothering them then they would give us 2 or maybe 3 regions. We could even become allies with Argentina."
That part was already done months before. What do you think how we got the deal in the first place? Hard fighting to show them that they better work with us than against us! Just look at my and many other profiles: Top damage in a campaign Damage268,515,577 for Nigeria
Achieved while trying to conquer South West States from Argentina on day 2,545
"But you said it, with our idea we could get 1-2 month with 2 regions. With your deal, Argentina will wipe us AND THEN WE WOULD WIN A REGION VIA RW. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL LET THAT HAPPEN?
I hope i'm wrong, but what insurance have you from them? Their word?"
What makes me think that? Maybe because we already made the exact same move once before and they kept their word and gave us our promised region.
Also they pay us back the taxes for our occupied regions, so i think we can trust them a bit... at least more than we should trust Juve Leo and his PTO friends!
why did it took so long to gave that asnwer? were you being pushed?
Anyway, great effort 😃, but you still agreed that we could get 1-2 months with more than 1 region wich is a better bet that what we have now (maybe argentina will bet wiped by chile for example lol).
But then again, you and your aggregated parties Party had months of "power" to get more active players in Nigeria and you didn't.
And day 2545 was last month, not months before 😉
But you are right, I am a new eNigerian player so it is true that i don't know the complete history of our coutry, but I really think that we could make a better structured futeure for Nigeria that what you are doing right now.
And now I'm going to study, i don't have that much time to loose with people that can't take a little bit of constructive criticism.
putting COs on it is ok for me...
i dont care for it and if juve sets 1k CC amount the money is away within minutes and the wall is just pushed for 3 or 4%...
but as far as i know (im not everytimes online... sometimes i sleep) juve just set SMF only COs...
just SMF members could see them...
so argentina still doesent know that we are active...
to your point with that "new" deal to get one region more:
maybe they just say no to even one region because they cant trust us anymore...
why shouldnt they trust us anymore?
because we are breaking the "old" deal...
SO IF YOU ASK WHAT MAKES US SURE THAT THEY LET US WIN THE RW I HAVE TO ASK WHAT MAKES YOU SURE THAT THEY WILL GIVE US 2 REGIONS FOR 1-2 MONTH AFTER WE BROKE THE "OLD" DEAL
wow i have big letters too... 😃
"but what insurance have you from them? Their word?"
uhm... yes?
wich insurence whould you get for your deal?
thats the definition of a deal...
but if we ignore the deal (because some guys think david can realy beat goliath) Argentina could ignore the deal too...
NONE. IT WAS A RISK TO TAKE.
And if we don't take risks you won't get better in this game.
Then how will you get 2 regions for Nigeria? just asking? No, we need to take them. If not now, in a year or 2. But we will always have to go to war agains them.
I'm just saying that now was a great oppurtunity wich we've lost.
"why did it took so long to gave that asnwer? were you being pushed?" Once again, you show your lack of knowledge. This time about CP work.
I was just talking to some MoFAs and CPs on IRC. Thats by far more important than a discussion with a simple minded PTOer!
"But then again, you and your aggregated parties Party had months of "power" to get more active players in Nigeria and you didn't."
We did! You don't know about the eNigeria from some months ago! We have better fighters and we get far more taxes, because of our economy program!
Just stop talking about things you have no clue about! It could show everyone, that your plan is just ridiculous naive!
"And day 2545 was last month, not months before 😉"
Wow, really?! This wasn't last month, it was in November when the deal was made.
"But then again, you and your aggregated parties Party had months of "power" to get more active players in Nigeria and you didn't."
How could we have done that?
"Then how will you get 2 regions for Nigeria? just asking? No, we need to take them. If not now, in a year or 2. But we will always have to go to war agains them."
Our first region we got with diplomatic efforts, not with war.
"Once again, you show your lack of knowledge. This time about CP work."
you made like 10 comments on this article and only on your 8th you remeber to say that?
But i'm really busy to so i think we are going to end the discussion for now.
"The whole community is already discussing these things somewhere else"
but i bet that he knew.
If he knew he would disagree. I would. If he didn't then it was bad communication from thast gov.
ur point with the CO's was to prove to argentina that we are active and that we can keep doing what we did in order to bother them.
YES YES YES
Sometimes I think that people don't understan this game at all. We won't be pain in the ass for argentina, cause with the help of their allies, they are able to destroy us in a matter of two days.
the pain would be RW after RW while they are occupied with chile (a much bigger war). But maybe you can tell a better ideia than ours, please do.
Yeah, that would work for one or maybe even two months. I could get allies against Arg to keep us afloat for that time!
But after that time, we would run out of money and the war with Chile would surely end too. And what will happen then? We wouldn't get a deal anymore and we would be wiped for many months!
Thats the reason why I am CP and not you: I have the ability to plan ahead for more than a short war which would cost eNigeria everything!
Getting more players to play for eNigeria. And this one was actually on juve leo program. If we could retain 1-2months that would mean 35*2 gold from congress medals in our bank. and, with everyone trying, maybe we could at least double our population.
Then maybe Argentina may destroy us, but you also don't know if they will be involded in other heavy war.
I think this was our best chance to, AT LEAST, do something. But if you are scared of change then it is no wonder that we are were we are.
with more people, more taxes, more taxes more money to spend on getting our regions. Surely it wont's be something that would happen in less than 1 year, but I've already asked for you to say your plans for Nigeria to us citzens.
You can even talk with me via PM 😉
It seems like you don't realise how small this country is, compared to Argentina. Getting more people wouldn't help until we would get like at least 400 or 500 high active players. The taxes we would get, are jost a drop compared to what we would need. Same for the congress gold.
You just show, that your "plan" is not worth to discuss! It is just pure rubbish!
You are not more than a PTOer and when you write "...but I've already asked for you to say your plans for Nigeria to us citzens." you are wrong:
You are just a illegal citizen in eNigeria!
It is not being scared. It is simple scaling. We don't stand a chance. If you want to lost eNigeria for at least 6 months, then go ahead. Attack the empire
but making our population bigger IS A STEP FOWARD.
You don't recognize me as a citzen because YOU made your "laws" about that. Have you ever read 1984?
And are you going to deny that I an "illegal citzen" am not putting more effort in eNigeria than most of your citzens?
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE SPORTING ARE MAKING CONSTRUCTIVE EFFORTS FOR NIGERIA AND YOU ARE ALWAYS IGNORING THAT.
nwither of you is reading what i'm saying. I think that we should move foward or at least try to in our way but in this talks it seems to me that you are happy as we are.
I've encountered people like you my entire life they always end up being disapointed with themselves in their life.
I really hope that your charecter in real life is not like that.
Not I made the rules about you being illegal! It was the rightful nigerian Congress, elected by the people of eNigeria.
JUST BECAUSE YOU WRITE IN CAPS, YOUR WORDS WONT BECOME TRUE IN A MAGICAL WAY! YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS FROM SPORTING ARE JUST PTOERS AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE!
Feel free to start a babyboom here. It's not that easy. If it was, we already had done it.
baby boom would be hard, but taking other players from other countries to come here to have a different experience in their game might be managable.
Oh awesome and how do you want to attract players to eNigeria hmm? I came here only because it is easy to get in congress here, and that was toe only reason.