Moar woar?
Fhaemita The Apostate
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Greetings citizens of eNetherlands,
Recently one of eNetherlands citizens Aries Prime wrote an article called "Netherlands is Dead". One of the points he made in the article (and also the point that got almost all of the attention in the comment section) is that eNetherlands needs to have a war. There have been more people making comments to have a war and eNetherlands has a (albeit hopefully short) war planned to help our long time ally USA. We Airstrike the Mexican region Baja so eUSA can retake it it when the determination has lowered. Still people complained that this wasn't good enough because we needed a real war not some fake region swap war. Because having some war just for the sake for having a war, a war about nothing is better than helping an ally right?
Although I understand erepublik has become nothing more than a wargame and most of the other modules are basically dead does not mean we should start wars just for the sake of starting wars. Some people (I am not naming names but you know who you are) have just been warmonger lately demanding a real war. The planned Aistrike isn't good enough for some people demanding real war although in my opinion I would rather help an ally country then start a war about nothing. Helping an ally is productive, it helps eNetherlands build and keeping relationship with allies countries which is good for the future of eNetherlands. eUSA has helped us in the past when we were at war with for instance Norway, we were number #1 priority multiple times. I put more value in building relationship with other countries then just having war.
I understand people want to fight for eNetherlands but it makes more sense that eNetherlands helps allies then to start a war, people complain that eNetherlands has no real allies and no countries that give a shit about eNetherlands but on the other side is not willing to do much or to invest in making this happen. People rather fight in Resistance wars we need to lose for True Patriot medal then help an ally. I have stated this before in my campaign article and I will say it again that the military is a strong foreign affairs tools, helping and fighting for our allies that is a good way to build relationships and friendship
In the comment section of Aries Prime article people gave suggestion for countries to attack for instance start a war with Poland, Attack Norway or to Aistrike another country. Other options given in the comment section was to attack one of our neighbours Belgium or the UK. Most of the countries except Norway are allies so or you suggest starting a (real) war with an ally country or you suggest having a training war. If we start a real war we would be back to where we were after Kordak presidency with no allies at all, if we do a training wars with one of those countries we wouldn't have a real war would it be so people would still complain most likely still wanting a real war.
There are also other problems with the list of countries named above Poland is way too strong even against their two clickers we would lose and Poland would need to help and fight for us while they could use their damage elsewhere for their own battles or allies basically draining their damage. Problem with a war with eBelgium is that we don't have border with them seeing ePoland holds Southern Netherlands.
As for a Airstrike, an airstrike would cost us a lot of money, 66,667 currency and 87,250 energy units. For an Aistrike to be successful we would need to win the first battle or the war is closed. There is only a limited number of countries which are significantly weaker than us that we could pull it off for sure but most of them are countries who nobody gives a shit about and not really worth attacking.
Although I do not reject the idea of attacking Norway persé the last time we attacked Norway there was some commotion about attacking a former ally and a country where the Commander of Praetorian Guard NL is a citizen of. This caused a lot of discussion and division in our country. I am not saying this would still be the case but there will still be people who strongly oppose such a move. I know from experience that you can't please everybody so that shouldn't be a deciding factor but it is something to take into account.
Neither I nor Iron and Wine (as somebody suggested in my previous article) are against war but we oppose war just for the sake of having a war. War just for the sake of having a war makes no sense like I tried to explain in my article having a war might be beneficial short term, there might be some more activity going but that is only very short term for the duration of that possible war that people want. Demaning war or saying we shouldn't do a aistrike to help eUS is very shortsighted and only looking at the short term, I try and look at the bigger picture and the longer term and use common sense instead of just yelling "rah rah moar woar" all the time. War should be a tool to achieve something and never be a goal in itself.
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The Valeyard (Formerly Known as Fhaemita Malodorous)
Concerned Citizen
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Moar woar?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2435714/1/20
Too long to read o/.
xD
That was to be expected xD
Rice
tl;dr
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tl;dr, but whatever I digested from it I agree with you. Think before you go to war, I don't care for wars that are started just for the sake of going to war.
voted cause of the nice music and cause of Valeyard 🙂
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Let me have a fan 😛
Ok I shall let u one o/
tl;dr, but voted.
Baja is just not enough 🙂
tl;dr
Good article! I fully agree.
For this past tournament we basically did nothing special, because there was no active war, and the rewards were minimal (except for the top regiments, but there's no way we could achieve that).
The Chilean people were much more active, because of their war.
Does that mean we're dead? No, we're wise to save our resources for the moment we really need them. And when do we really need them? Helping allies is one of the best things we can actually do. Wasting damage on training wars is a bad idea. And starting a non-training war means we have to be able to really fight. If it is of tactical value to our allies, we can be sure that we get assistance, but if it isn't, we may may well find us alone versus a country with allies. So starting a war just to have a war is risky...
Imo u're blinding yourself, both eBE and eNL are too small for even helping effectively their allies.
Best spending would be to resist some invaders. But again, the reason behind is hard to tell.
I do not know what's the solution for tiny countries but fact is ... "We" don't matte rin the eworld.
Just because we don't do a lot of damage does not mean we are appreciated by our allies. I know from my time in eEB eUK very much appreciated our help, Just because we are small countries does not mean we can make a difference, do our damage and be appreciated.
It's grow or die bro
Appreciated indeed. But making real changes isn't the same.
Again one can question himself about: what is a change?
Where is our true power? Not on the battlefield for sure.
I agree with Garmr on the fact: too small to success. Need to be bigger.
Question: can we? How?
You should really look at those negatives Valeyard, some things you say turn out really weird 😉
We definitely can help our allies. The airstrikes on Baja are an example of helping with a region swap.
And we can open new fronts on enemies. Big nations only can fight for one region of an enemy at a time, so their small allies can speed up the war.
In terms of our damage output, yes, we are not very significant. But we are motivated and more united.
And we do save our energy bars for big battles, so short-term we still can do a significant amount of damage.
We should merge smaller countries populations and form new countries, ie - Belgium and netherlands or south africa, newzealand and australia
@enriche : which country would be "the first"? Some would be left behind ... Same story as always. In only we could "delete/merging" countries thanks to game mechanics it'd be ok;.
First person to bring up a bullshit TW will be abducted by the secret police.
We can't go to war with just our citizens, so that means we have to get support from foreign countries, and everyone who needs 'moar woar' has zero foreign contacts. I'm sure as hell not going to bother supporting some random noob invasion into Norway.
Everyone one who wants wars. Welcome to eUkraine. We always have some of that.
IMO Respect your peace.
V&S good article 😁
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We don't need a war with anybody to motivate, we need players who do not follow the "How I become a Super soldier without ever fighting policy"
New players are told to train a max, and to gain as less exp. as possible---->Play Farmville, open erepublik, click 2 times, close erepublik, continue with Farmville...
In the tournament only 8 D2 and 8 D3 players qualified for the needed 250 kills, all others did quit well on Farmville I guess.
I agree, the whole focus on str training is kinda nonsense, because they won't ever become an epix.
Who can be motivated to 'play' a game where you click 2-3 times every 24 hours, and this for months in a row? After that you will find yourself with hundreds of players, who followed the same award winning strategy, and end up being a noob who does not know the difference between a Bazooka or a Q1 Food...
In fact, we are all playing a game that was mediocre at best back in 2008, and is not worth starting playing with this conditions in 2014.
By far the most annoying thing ever released on the www was the +100 friends mission, the admin who ever brought up this idea should not be tolerated to die of natural causes.
decent article & explanation with what i can live with.
Only thing that bothers me is that even in a tournament 90% of the eNL citizens refuse to fight at all.... neither for their own country or for the so called allies....
That to me is somewhat of a disapointment....
With the result that eNL has to rely on a small group of soldiers....... with the result that we lose to a small foreign MU..... (which is BTW not their wrong doing)
so we attack eNorway anyway ;P
I admire that country with population of 350 is considering to attack Poland as an option to bring fun. Even if this opion is not very popular and suicidal, but this is brave.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do
we did that before, bravery is nice and all... but might kill you in the process (or keep you from the map 1.5 years)
People better listen closely. Because if BG brings up 'its time for war', there will BE a war.
nuf said.
BG isn't even in congress so good luck with that
we dont need to be. muwahahahahahah
sa
Firstly , i want to give congrats to valeyard by the article, is good the idea.
can i give 3 warfare suggestions?
- we can help germany to take back their territory from the polskies, a good thing is that we can win an ally and a chance of recover our prime territory, and why? simple, if we take back bremen and dussendorlf for germany, we will isolate the dutch territories under the rule of the polskies, they will lose half of their bonusses and the "free ride" for transport the citizens in a eventual war, then, we will have more chances..
- we can ally and help the french, they are always in war with chile and poland, and murica, and uk and anyone who step inside of "la republique", will be funny and cheap for everyone because of the distance and the frequency of the war overthere.
- we can invade.... INVADE SO MUCH, INVADE EVERYTHING, AS THE GOOD EUROPEANS THAN WE ARE, we can invade Thailand, which have 6 territories and 270 citizens protecting it. or Ireland (301ctzn, 5 trrts) which is nearly, and irrelevant , or Estonia (284 ctzn, 4 trrts), or Amenia (276 ctzn,4 trrts) or our friend Belgium (274 ctzn,3 trrts). lol apologize me people , i am an imperial person lol.
well that is all people, these are only suggestions that can give funny moments of warfare for everyone . i know than these suggestions can be madness, but the war itself is madness lol.
1. I think Germany has some sort of agreement about their region?
2. French is our enemy, so we;'re not helping them.
3. I have to go afk and this is tl;dr to respond to, sorry 😛
as you wish president, was only ideas..
Unfortunately no one has even proposed a counter national goal.
why propose a counter goal ........only a few will fight anyways .....like svenders stated most of the citizens just train/2click and go back to farmville again...
What goal does anyone have for the prosperity of Netherlands? We have no national goal.
one would think that a 3 day tournament (in which we could've fought for the nations honour would be more than enough of a goal.....
But looking at the scoreboard even that was to much to ask i geuss.
We got beaten by a few motivated chileans....which is to sad for words
farm ville sucks. but it's not like you can fight 24/7 you empty your food-bar 1-2 maybe 3 times a day. and this tournament isn't worth wasting EB's for.
but it was a common goal ..........which was asked for ......
And have to agree with you farmville S**** bigtime.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/de-ce-sa-ne-construim-o-casa--2435695/1/20
British MoD ??