Mera Bharat Mahan - II (Alvida)
Uv Ajed
Disclaimer: Guys consider this as my last article on erepublik. I am quitting the game, and yeah I am not writing it to gain anyone's sympathy, but if you feel so, feel free to ignore this article.
Anyways before I go there are few things I wanted to put forth. To begin with..
-No, I am not leaving with a broken/sad heart..I am leaving happy, content and proud for having done my bit of little work for this community and the country even in it's virtual presence.
-Neither, am I leaving because as some people would see it that "I lost"
-I am Leaving because I fought for a cause that I still believe in and probably would have continued fighting for it to no end. And all this would have eventually made India's atmosphere poisonous and filled it with hatred, which eventually would have taken a toll on the progress and growth of the country. For a country or community which fights within itself, it would be wrong for us to expect it to grow.
-I would indeed be happy as well if this plan actually works and India grows to a new height and we reach a new destination, that of Success. But unfortunately for this plan to succeed my presence will prove to be detrimental. I won't ever want to be the black sheep on your way.
But sorry I can't change my opinion as well, especially when I don't have a genuine reason to do that.
So that's the real reason I have decided to bid adieu to you all! many have asked me to give the idea a chance, my response to them is simple: Chances are given when their is an equal opportunity to revert, not when you know that the road you are taking has 90% chances of having a dead end and some 10% chance of being the destination. And I don't feel India is ready yet to take that chance as of now.
Maybe I will come back in future after months or years, or maybe not. But when I do I hope that the Indian community has grown stronger and that the country isn't in the hands of foreigners like the case of Thailand or Japan! This was my second innings in the game, the first goes back 4 years in past to March 2008. Back then India was under foreign occupation and we only had one state with us; that is Orissa, which also happens to be my rl home. We fought hard to liberate the country but unfortunately I had to quit the game 4 months into playing it after becoming a victim to plato's wrath. I decided never to return back to the game. But I did 4 years later in February this year, and this 9 months I spent in the game I am going to thank many for their help & support.
But unfortunately, further into the article I am also going to attack some people and some posts that I feel sends out a wrong message to the indian community I belong to. Once again feel free to ignore them if you want to or attack me back if you want to, but Please don't expect any answers or replies from me for my part here will be over with this article.
The First Person would be Ethel Rosenberg. To be honest you remind me of Stan Lee and Samuel L. Jackson's Nick Fury from the marvel cineverse. You tried a lot to influence Indian politics, even before you became an Indian, trying to give an opinion even in the matters you were not asked for. Anyways, you said it before that you are Eden first and rest later, sorry but majority of us don't share that thought. We are Indians First and rest Later. Plus if I am to believe, in the debate We were told by Arawn and Hamturk that you had been asked by the Eden HQ to refrain from indulging in the MU promotion in India. Yet after they said that you continued posting your views in every MU related article and the polls, etc. trying to influence us to let them in. Not sure if Eden actually warned you or those two were fluking, anyways I don't care anymore.
The Second person would be Zina80. Here are few of your quotes.
"Honestly, i prefer to go somewhere we are welcome. We are all looking for a country that plays this game with dignity & respect and we also like to have fun playing this game. If eIndia is full of old fags and racists, I really don't want to be here. This i believe is a good opportunity for eIndia to have a group of experienced & descent players to add to their community and prosper. If u don't understand it...it will be your loss."
"So... as i said, if we are not even getting a chance to prove who we are, yeah i call it racism or whatever"
And an honest reply which actually came from a Japanese.
Zina, with the big issue of PTOing lately in countries all over, you do need to consider the fact that when a group of people comes into a country which the country has had no experience with before, the country might be cautious and mildly hostile untill a common respect and understanding is reached. Saying that you do lot's of damage and what not isn't automaticaly going to gain you respect in a new community.
Not only that but he also made the reason for our concern clear, the very reason for which you called us "racists"
"Much like some serbs in our country who came in a batch and said they wanted to integrate and wouldn't touch our politics. The first PP election that came after that, they PTOed the 3rd biggest party, they don't want to bother with any forum nor irc, they don't make any articles aside from propaganda articles against decent CPs."
And then several other propaganda prone Americans trying their best to convince us to let you guys in. And some of them were actually funny.
" However we are sensitive to the PTO argument (we are after all coming from the US where people talk of little else) and are willing to work with our potential new hosts. If ultimately the compromise is to stay away for the first two months, then so be it.
I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you though. I am interested in the political game in the future, all you have to do is look at my profile to see that."
And a guy who likes to contradict himself
"I wish our future new hosts can take the courage to accept us and get to know us. i think this is the most honest group of people i have seen in this game and eIndia will be lucky to have UA...as we will be lucky for you to be our hosts."
and
"I am not coming to eIndia so my opinion cannot be considered biased ))"
Sorry but did i read it wrong?
And there were some opinions by the people who have known these guys and warned us.
"Hey this is a great group of players that will help your country for as long as they agree with you... They turned they're backs on they're home country and people because they felt they had some holy right to teach us a lesson.... What happens eIndia when you stop playing by they're rules... They turned they're backs on they're home and claim to have cost us bonuses... what will they do to you!"
And not to forget few neutral ones.
"They need you more than you need them. Just as I did, they are looking for a decent place to play the game, that's it, that's all. I'm a solo player; they're a group. I started over from scratch; they want to continue to build on what they already have."
Some opinions by Indians
"Interesting
Addy is talking about relationship building
Zina, threatening us to declare us "racist" if we do not let them in
Alias vision, makes it clear of his political intentions
A) Does India need damage? if yes, for what - we are already landlocked between Croatia and China,
Economy - It is shit all around the world, u can buy cheap anywhere. Salary, not a big difference, -- more consumers? addl 30 people -- no difference
C) Politics - it only increases of PTO risk"
"finally, onus of proving ur allegiance is with this country is with u . can u list out the things u r willing to sacrifice to be part of this community?"
And then the article in itself was full of brags such as
"Let's assume eIndia had a baby boom next week. How many Gods of War would you expect to come out of that group? How much gold do you expect them to buy and invest in eIndia? How many CPs and PPs and congress medals and MU Commanders would you expect them to produce? And for all of these answers, how long would it take?
UAgg is providing eIndia with the opportunity to provide all of the BENEFITS of such a baby-boom, in a very short time-frame."
"eIndia has a relatively small population which would provide an opportunity for UAgg to personally get involved with, affording a quick integration with the nation rather than being lost in anonymity. Because it's small, the onus is on UAgg to prove it's worth and earn respect. We believe we can, we are only asking for a chance."
But one thing is for sure, that I have lot of respect for Addy! but none for CFovetS or Zina08.
But your views about babyboom and bragging about being stronger than us is something that sends a wrong message to the community. Like others have pointed out before "Learn to win hearts by portraying yourself as equal, rather than trying to win over by showing your superiority"
Finally comment by an Indian that kind of pissed me off
"Why do they need to be in eIndian MUs? Are all eIndians in Marcos or BRATS? No, they're not. Are all eIndians required to sacrifice to be here? No, they're not. These are people who should be here. That's all."
My reply to him
Sorry Arawn you might not have been a part of Indian MU since "god knows when" but that doesn't make us remaining 200 Indians, view it the same way. I am not sure if you are aware but by your comment you are implying that the purpose for which BRATS and MARCOS started have failed! Sorry but I beg to differ on it, because me and several hundreds of Indians don't think so!
To all you guys who have accused me in past few days of being a racist or xenophobe. Here's something for you all..
Because that is my identity, something that'll stay with me forever whether in game or in real life. And I would do everything on my part to protect it!To be honest I don't play the game for the sake of playing one, but for the community and to some extent, the country. Yes I am a Nationalist but never a racist, I am married to a white canadian in real life!
And yeah the damage done by you guys to the Indian community in the context of a greater benefit is something that'll take a long time to heal. You have made several Indians inc. me to rethink our position of being Pro-EDEN.
And the special mentions
Abhinay & Sharry: You both are the protectors of India! India needs you more than you can ever realize.
Asmitatheone, Hemanathan, Rebelash & NavinCharles: You guys are simply awesome and the real mentors India needs. Lead them to the glorious future.
Xordin: Tum toh swayam param brahma ho...Hatsoff to you
🙂
Troj4n20 & ArawnLives: My eBrothers!
Shockwavve: No more long boring articles in eIndia anymore
😛not atleast from me
🙂
Mohan: After all that happened I don't know If I would remain a die hard eden supporter like I was before, but I do feel that it's worth to give your idea a try. What's more? You could always try to get us a Bulgarian MU to the country and I am pretty sure that those who supported the Eden MU should have no reason to oppose you!
Ashwamedh & Abhi: Sorry for fighting you and abhi when you guys wrote about your anti-EDEN views. But yeah Ash, you are indeed HIDM and will always remain a god to Indians inc. me!
DonMogul: I had a very wrong view about you before especially after the restive and anooj episode. But then you came to IRC and when I asked you to let Arawn run for CP, you accepted it with a big
😁and then posted an article clarifying your views, which totally changed my opinion about you. Back then I promised you that you would be the official candidate of Forward Bloc and here you are, though my personal opinion might be slightly tilted and biased towards having Asmita or NavinCharles re-elected as CP, but that doesn't change the goddamn fact that you are the official cp candidate of our party and you have the experience to take us ahead. Just make sure to be more active on irc
😛
Ashphalt: Please help your future hubby with the babyboom project, India needs you rl experience!
Deadley: Your experience in finance is something that made plato stand on his seat! keep it up
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BrknSword, Sumitp399, Arminder, Kameenay, Ayush1212, Guessit, AnujJain: 3 words..."You Guys Rock!"
Shakti: Jadi hue ta kebe dekha haba!
Forter: You are an awesome PP! and when time comes, pass on the baton to the one who deserves it the most and whom you believe in.
WildQuark: Sorry we had to fight towards the end. But you succeeded in bringing MoMC back to life! for which kudos to you!
Alector: You don't need to be in power to do something good. Remember the day you stop chasing power will be the day you'll become an immortal god!
Hamturk: I had deep respect for you, but the way you kept trying to attack me, picking up on me and pissing me off every 10 minutes the whole evening y'day on irc. Is something that made me lose all respect i had for you!
And yeah I told you to expect an article if there were multi votings and here it is!
Though to be honest the moment I said that, few minutes later you and some of your supporters disappeared from irc Just to come back 15 minutes later claiming "there is a multi voting against the MU","write an article now!" well, I don't know whether it was voted by some diehard indian who didn't want to let these guys in or by some supporters who wanted to make a point for me to write. What I do know is that it was wrong...no matter who did it!
My request to future CP:Please be more transparent in your dealings, that's the cause I always fought for.
My Two cents to all Indians: Stick to the cause or reason you feel is right like a leech, No matter, come what may!Don't let anything govern or influence your decision without proper reasoning for the same!
That is what is going to keep you strong whether in real life or in game!
With that said, the final question that has lingered on for past few days..
"Why did I change my name?"
To be honest, I don't know the answer.
But what I do know is that
Jai Hind, Dhanyawad, Shukriya....Phir Milenge!
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Comments
Bye Samnomix ......... Big fan
you are the only guy i hate in this game ,it will be artificial if i say" plz stay in the game" or "i will miss you"....anyway good bye
No Sam.. This is not the way... We need to be here till the END no matter what... I am looking forward to having a chat with you...
"To be honest I don't play the game for the sake of playing one, but for the community and to some extent the country" .... We all fight for the same cause samnomix .... and quitting is never an option for us...as navin said we wil lbe here till the end and my brother stay with us .... DONT QUIT
I would like talk to u sometime on this ...let me know when it should be
My opinion is Simple "Don't Quit".
I'll be active on IRC as long as I find people there when I'm online 😛 How many times have I joined that channel hung around for 10 minutes and no one turns up 😒
thankyou for your kind words sam. id ask you to stay but I know this sentiment you are feeling now.
i had it once and it lasted nearly a whole year before I came back 😁
Best of luck in RL bro..
We haven't looked eye-to-eye over many issues lately, but the brute fact is that you fought for eIndia as much as we do, and that you are worthy of eIndia's respect as much as even mav is. o7 to you.
"They turned they're backs on they're home country and people because they felt they had some holy right to teach us a lesson"
This is true. We left the country because we were tired of the corruption and we held the ruling class to account by fighting against eCan in RW so that they would lose their bonuses. We told them we'd stop if they reversed their pardon of a criminal who stole 5,000g from the eCan treasury.
arminder +1
Mine also 2 cents, You leave, i will also leave....
I thought you were much better than this. Dont quit..
forgot me........
I hope that someone lets Samnomix know of the spirit of these replies to his article.
“And not to forget few neutral ones. “
Samnomix, please forgive me if you feel that I'm speaking out of turn. Unfortunately, because we don't have an eRep forum, player articles have become the only in game method to exchange ideas & opinions.
I play this game exactly as I do any online game. As I see it, the game is made up of a few hundred core players (community), loosely affiliated to alliances (factions), divided into national teams (races), sub-divided into MU's (classes). I say loosely affiliated, because unlike other games, a national team can switch alliance.
I change servers, when I want to play with a different faction, in order not to play against former team mates.
This gives me the advantage of seeing the game from the pov of a new player, exploring all of the game's new content, something existing players can't do. More importantly, it allows me the fun of getting to know a whole new group of players.
In eRep, when changing race (national team), I allow my existing character to eDie. I'm now totally immersed in Mystela, eBorn in & playing for eThailand, currently neutrally aligned. With one server only, I have to play against old team mates. 😛😛
ugh I am so sorry for the fight, I just have this sort of bad quality where I do things just to amuse myself. Like arguing vehemently about something even though I am dispassionate about it. I have added up to the whole thing and things took a toll on you. I am sorry for calling you a nationalist and a xenophobe. I didn't mean that. You are a better player than I. And I have deep respect for your sentiments towards India. And if you are quitting, I quit too cos I don't feel like playing.
“...and that the country isn't in the hands of foreigners like the case of Thailand...”
From the start, there have never been more than a hand full of RL Thai players. Knowing that & given my game philosophy, I hope that you can understand why I disagree with your statement. In eThailand, there are only 2 classes (MU's). You can join either one or play as a mercenary (solo).
The eThailand race (team) is made up of an interesting mix of players from around the RL world, dominated by players from Serbia & Croatia. We are neutrally aligned despite my secret SEA alliance desires or barring that, the spawn of the glorious NSAAOAMEA!! We are an awesome team! Fear us!
Or at least stay out of our back yard, but don't leave the game, unless for really good reasons of course. Then I wish you all the best. o7
^That's why we need an eRep forum...I'm sorry Samnomix. 😞
Last I promise. The main difference between me & that MU, is that they've invested way too much RL money in their characters to allow them to eDie, in order to switch teams. Ok, ok & they don't talk as much. 😞
I believe these guys are team players. I imagine that they felt that India had strong team players as well. I'm a proud RL Canadian but in game, I'm Thai through & through & play that way, otherwise the game is pointless. Play for your team guys, don't quit over this.
o7
One of the better articles I have read, regardless of that I don't agree on everything you wrote. Man, you are talented journalist. Too bad that you're leaving the game. And I really mean it, despite of me being a member of Uagg. As for subjected MU, I didn't apply for an eIndian CS, but will remain a member of this MU. You know why? Because they are all such a great guys that I consider them as my friends.
Addy Lawrence
aeriala
anonymoushooligan
armour144 (on assignment with the Loyalists)
Captain Kushkins
Chucky Norris
CFovetS
Darkham
Dr.Pain
Dru Blood
Ethel Rosenberg
Frank5611
FRITZHILL
lucasmon
Max Maher
olivermellors
Plugson
Ralph Kline
Rigour6
Rylde (on assignment with the Loyalists)
Sir Arthur William Currie
sweeta
TheAgent51
theolor
This is the list of eCan players who publicly betrayed they're home. there were others who hide in the shadows. Not to say every person in the MU did so... the likes of Treian stayed and fought for his home before choosing to leave once the EPC dis formed and the Can Am war was over.....
I'm a Croat in RL, ended up in eCanada (within the game) a long time ago due to continuously changes of the game, where I first met them. As Addy already said, we have left eCanada because of a huge corruption in politics elite (actually one man has owned the whole country. He had PTO-ed every competitive political party in the country, bribing eCanadians for their votes. That's why we left. We didn't turn our back on eCanada, but to the corruption. Very similar thing is happening now in eUSA.
And that's why we are looking for a new home now. No one of us wants to do any harm to eIndia, believe me. And no one of us won't do any harm or anything that could hurt eIndia. This MU became like a family during time and if they would be welcomed to eIndia, we will give our best for for the benefit of this country. As for politics, personally I'm not interested at all. but if Alias is, that is only one person. Anyway, they are like a 2nd family to me, they are that much great as persons.
@Cypher Rahl: That's just not true and you know it. You know very well who was the one who "owned" the whole country, who had a hundreds of bots, who PTO-ed every single political party he didn't controled and who robber the national treasury of eCanada an tried to bribe every single eCanadian citizen. The guy that had Bruce Willis in his avatar...We did not want to be his poppets nor to live in corrupted dictatorship country. None of us never ever betrayed anybody. You're a liar.
Leaving is one thing, turning your backs on your country and fighting against the people you claimed you wanted to help a total new ball game....
you want to leave go ahead but do not turn around and fight against your own people and those of us willing to stay behind and continue to fight for our country.... you betrayed your own people in doing so and there for are traitors for it!
Samnomix: Tu ek Kshatriya hai. Aur Kshatriya kabhi apne hathyaar aise nahi daal-te. Yeh dharti aur desh tera apna hai. Yeh TERI matrbhoomi hai. Ek saccha Kshatriya kabhi apne kartavya se peechay nahi hatta hai. Yeh Rannbhoomi hi teri Karmbhoomi hai. Isliye hey veer, apnay shashtra utha...vijay teri hi hogi...yehi mera aadesh bhi hai aur meri iccha bhi...
-.-
Hail samnomix... dnt leave buddy 🙁
Come back!!! never take anything to heart.
@Cypher Rahl: a long time ago, the similar thing starting to happen in my native eCountry - Croatia. PTO-ing other political parties took a huge part of e-life in eCroatia back then,. I haev never understand why people are doing that and I never will. It's so miserable, if you ask me. Anyway people did it. And there were nothing anyone could do to stop it.
...continue😛
Until eCroatia was wiped of the world map. Once it happened, eCroatia lost a congress and finally all that rotten core of bad, corrupted people lost their power and was removed. The next congress elections finally brought good and honest people in congress and government.
So, this was one e-historical story, you find your own way to apply it to eCanada (or not)..
Anyway, all of what we talk about has nothing to do with eIndia. I don't see any reason why you actually do what you're doing.
bye bye....
com'on yaar ... dnt quit the game ... sabu thik hei jiba
i hope you reconsider your decision of leaving. o7
@Semper5; All i am doing is warning against the likes of those who will turn theyre backs on those who wont play by theyre rules. what happens if things dont go the way you want in eIndia.... you going to RW regions away from them next to prove a point one more time.... the EPC was able to put a good size dent against eCan in those RW and i imagine these players could do it to eIndia too... and who says they wont have more and new people to join them this time around......
You're totally wrong. All you are doing is trying to denigrate people without any prove or argument. The reason for that is known only to you.
Let me make some things clear - why eIndia? We all know what is happening in eUSA. Just like eCanada earlier, there is a lot of corruption in elite politics. So we decide to....a kind of run away from it. We decide for eIndia because we were seeking for decent e-country that is not so strong and could use our help in a term of military power.
We are a MU, soldiers/warriors, not politicians.Whatever eIndian government decide, we will respect it and do it.eCanada was specific because most of members of our MU are native Canadians, so it was a kind of personal for them, I guess. And it was a situation with eCanada only. Today, many of us left or trying to left eUSA. but still we fight on their side when is needed. How do you explain that?
However, you're eCanadian living in eCanada and this is not of your business. I believe it's something personal between your and somebody from this MU. And if it is so, it's very bad and dishonestly what you're doing. It's not about you're caring about eIndia, it's something else and very personal, am I right?