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Little story about the immigration

Day 1,891, 23:06 by kowalski_afc

(To my eSerbian, eCroation & other readers: this article is written for my new ecountry - eJapan and that's why it's on english.)

Ladies and gentleman,

I’m playing this game for three and half years almost. First I didn’t like it, then I liked chat, after that, the game is destroyed, but I stayed because of people. I stayed because I meet great friends here.

I used to try almost everything in this game. I used to be the soldier (and I’m still the soldier), I used to be one of the commanders of White Eagles MU (one of the oldest MU at this game), I used to be a politician, manager, mercenary, journalist and I found out that all this make this game still interesting to me.

Also, during those three and half years, I wasn’t banned, but I tried many things. Including the “new start” at some countries.



Well, when I log in for the first time, I get eSerbian citizenship. Then, eSerbia needed help, they needed freedom. I can’t tell that my help was too big, but I really liked the way how we worked together. Maybe the greatest part of the game was not in the game. It was the talks. Someone will say that the point of the game is to have the fun. I will agree with it, but what can be funnier from the communication with other players? I’m the “old fashioned 35 y.o. RL person”. Sitting in front of the computer and playing single player mode is not fun for me. Maybe someone can find fun in it, but personally I think it’s much more interesting to get out and have some drink with friends.

After eSerbia, I went to eNew Zealand. It was just after the adding of eNZ to the map. It was great. Chatting with the people which I won’t meet, but which accepted us as a friends after some time. They were suspicious from the start, but that didn’t last too much. eNZ will stay in my memory like a group of really great friends and drunk people (do you hear this, Crusadercarl, you drunk fisherman, my friend? :P ), very proud and very brave. I’m still very glad to chat with them, to talk with them, to help them when I see that they need help… Well, I always liked them. I like the nations with great history and tradition. I like to feel myself like a part of that tradition.

After some time, I used to be a – eCroatian! Well, seems that some of you will be shocked, but I used to have their citizenship. Of course, the people which are thinking that Serbs are bad won’t accept it, but you can easily check this. They were occupied long by eSerbia in that moment, so I went there, wrote several articles where I’m calling them to wake up and start to fight.

Very strange act from one Serb, isn’t it? It’s the fun for me, I was spending hours and hours on irc and talked with people. Of course, they make the fun of me as they gave me wrong irc channel for the start, where I stayed for long almost alone! How I was laughing when they admitted me that…

They liberated themselves. I was really glad because of that.

After several months with eSerbian citizenship (again), I started to search for some new excitement. Probably you noticed that it won’t be interesting for me to go to ePoland or eHungary or some similar country. I was searching for the country with great tradition (RL tradition) and which needs help. That’s why I came in – eJapan.



I noticed that some people from eSerbia came here. I checked the list and I was really surprised. Angelkovic (person which I know IRL, maybe sometimes he won’t choose the word, but he is not malicious), Ceda (one of the player for which I have really great opinion, he never said anything against anybody, but helped a lot to many), Robert E.Lee 1861 (ex eSerbian MoFA, one of the best warfare and geopolitic writer), Mire tica Feniks (the person which like to help to others, no matter does he knows him or not, that’s his way of fun), Bozimano Dorks (two times eSerbian CP, but very well known as RL bohemian), Ubod (one of the strongest tanks in the game, the person which helped a lot to many players and never asked anything for himself)… I’m sorry that I won’t mention all the people which I know…

The company in eJapan is simply - great. Many of people which are playing this game for a long time and which want to help to everyone. Combine those people and you will have great team. But, use them. They can help a lot, but you need to accept them and to listen them as they are playing this game for a long and they solved many problems. Those people can listen to others, believe me. They know to listen and they know to find solutions which will satisfy (almost) all of us.



Well, you can like me or not. You can agree with me or not, but get used to it – I’m IGM Japanese, like the others and I will do anything to raise this community to a higher level. I’m sure that all which I mentioned will do the same. All we need is to work together and not to be isolated and accused before we do anything.

And according to my logging in today and reading two articles where other eJapanese accused us that we are making the PTO, we will have really hard times here, as we won’t go or disappear. We came here to help, to work together and to fight for eJapan.

Get used to it.

Yours,
Kowalski_afc

P.S. Personally I’m not a fan of Manga and Anime, so maybe something like this is acceptable for everyone? Anyone wants Nyotaimori? :)



 

Comments

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 23:06

eJapan
o7

ljubisavljev
ljubisavljev Day 1,891, 23:09

o7

mcmoox
mcmoox Day 1,891, 23:11

MCMOOX je bio ovde!!!

elveon
elveon Day 1,891, 23:13

sad sam gladan... jeo bih joj i s`usi : D

bozimano dorks
bozimano dorks Day 1,891, 23:21

o7

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 23:24

"They can help a lot, but you need to accept them and to listen them as they are playing this game for a long and they solved many problems. Those people can listen to others, believe me. "

I think this is a problem. Yes, you guys are v experienced players, but if you want to convince others to accept you and your opinions. You cant just order people to do things, just put yourself in our situation, if you are a citizen here and someone just move here recently and order you what you can or cant do. You probably would be unhappy about that

I think this is what causes the resentments.

If you want people to be on your side, or take your opinion seriously, you need to at least spend some time understand other's people's opinion and wishes, and you should respect them even if you disagree with their opinion.

eJapan is a country built with the help of a lot of immigrants, I dont think eJapan is hostile to immigrants at all, but if you want to fit in and be counted, there are plenty of examples you can follow, but you got to work for that just like everyone else.

arhangellord
arhangellord Day 1,891, 23:26

eJapan
o7

bernoldi_salieri Day 1,891, 23:28

Comment deleted

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 23:30

that 1
The problem which i noticed is hidden in your words. I don't need to convince anyone that i want the best for eJapan. I don't want that people are on my side. That will mean that i want to change someone's opinion, and it's not our goal here.

Take a look on the comments at the previous Lee's article. He write his opinion and get accused that he's PTOer, that he doesn't want to listen anyone etc
Why? Because he has his opinion? Well, everyone has it, you, me, others... Why he can't give us his point of view? Btw, i think that he has good point in many things.

Mire tica Feniks
Mire tica Feniks Day 1,891, 23:37

o7 Japan!

Don Ori
Don Ori Day 1,891, 23:42

o7

ardishabutaro
ardishabutaro Day 1,891, 23:46

kowalski_afc: nice to know your story.
by the way, if you don't mind, better check up our forum too. we may small country, but we more active in forum rather than any country (i know)

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 23:49

ardishabutaro
I already register on forum some time ago. But, because of my RL obligations, i'm in heavy 2click and i'm not posting there or visiting irc for some time already.

Geezus
Geezus Day 1,891, 00:03

eJapan needs more people like you.
But some old ejapanese needs more time to understand this.
Be patient with them.
\☺

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 00:05

" Why? Because he has his opinion? Well, everyone has it, you, me, others... Why he can't give us his point of view? Btw, i think that he has good point in many things. "

Lol, I read his article, and I dont think he understand eJapan at all, and I dont think he make a big effort to understand us.

As I said before, eJapan is a community built with the help of a lot of immigrants, majority of the community are not RL Japanese, we are united pretty much by our interest in RL Japanese culture, but he was dismissive about it. So, how can anyone read the article and not be upset by it?

Secondly, if he has complaints about what the eJapanese government do, sure they have a lot flaws, why not talk to them directly and together work out something to improve the current situation instead of complaining and label all of us as lazy and not interested in the game.

This is especially true for the point he raised about the Turkish MU, surely if he talk to our CP or someone in the government, surely, they would get an answer instead of speculating we are going to join EDEN....

Veprina 22
Veprina 22 Day 1,891, 00:05

no me, no vote xD xD

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 00:09

and for the record I dont follow anime either,

Miljicaa
Miljicaa Day 1,891, 00:12

Jao ove slike su mozda malo ponizavajuce... A ja, kao vodja feministichkog pokreta, moram da osudim to iskorishcavanje zena umesto shveCkog stola!

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 00:17

that 1
Article is a legal way to communicate with everyone, especially with the government.
OK, you think that it is needed to be interested in RL Japanese culture to be eJapanese? Why? Maybe that is fun for you, but, he (and myself, btw) have some other way of fun. And seems that you didn't get it.

Our way or fun is to "raise" one ecounty. eJapan was long time occupied. The final goal for me (and i think that many mentioned people from my article have the same opinion) is to make eJapan strong enough that we don't need anyone help (not CoT, not Eden, not even TWO help) to defend ourselves.

Sorry to tell you, but our goal and way or fun is more connected to the game then yours : )

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 00:18

Miljice, ovo je tradicionalni susi! Ti si tradicionalno devojce! Skidaj se da jedemo susi!!! xP

Miljicaa
Miljicaa Day 1,891, 00:30

Ma bezi tamo : P Pre godinu dana, chini mi se, ovde bila ogromna afera za te shvecke stolove. Valjda na nekoj politichkoj zabavi koristili gole devojke i na njima sluzili hranu. Pa su posle one se vadile kako su ih naterali, drogirali, a ovi sa te vechere kao da nemaju nikakve veze sa tim, nisu znali za to. : D

The.Hound
The.Hound Day 1,891, 00:36

Ma sve je to lepo, ali mogle su im sise biti veće : )

Support for eJapan

Ceda.mj
Ceda.mj Day 1,891, 00:42

o7

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 00:46

"OK, you think that it is needed to be interested in RL Japanese culture to be eJapanese? Why? Maybe that is fun for you, but, he (and myself, btw) have some other way of fun. And seems that you didn't get it."

I dont think you get what I said. You dont have to have an interest, but if you attack other people's interest (which he did), that's kinda disrespectful.

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 00:53

" Article is a legal way to communicate with everyone, especially with the government."

I didnt say he cant post an article to communicate with everyone, but it does seems he doesnt have all the fact with him. I am just trying to explain the negative reaction he got. If he used a less aggressive tone to ask these questions instead, perhaps he wont get the negative responses.

steVVEGI
steVVEGI Day 1,891, 00:55

"this article is written for my new ecountry - eJapan and that's why it's on english."

A ja, budala, ziveo u neznanju da Japanci zbore japanskim jezikom... kad i oni spikaju amerikanski... :PPP

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 00:58

He simply tried to "wake them up". It's a strategy game, isn't it?
But, where in the article is mentioned any interest of other people? I read it again right now and i couldn't find it.

Deine Lakaien
Deine Lakaien Day 1,891, 01:10

kowalski_afc
there...ur name is written in eDeathNote...no apples will save u my friend

Arari Kara
Arari Kara Day 1,891, 01:13

Voted for photos

funky_ribar
funky_ribar Day 1,891, 01:47

zna on di su žemske najperverznije xD

Robert E.Lee 1861
Robert E.Lee 1861 Day 1,891, 01:52

Voted

@That1
U dont have to agree with me but i wont change my oppinion because of it
and i will speak freely because i dont want to suck up on anyone

Angelkovic
Angelkovic Day 1,891, 02:08

I`m gay, where is pics of naked mens with food? This is discrimination!!!!!

Angelkovic
Angelkovic Day 1,891, 02:13

Valjda na nekoj politichkoj zabavi koristili gole devojke i na njima sluzili hranu.
Pa, to su bili sindikalci. Zanimljivo da su svi pomahnitali, i mushki i zemski.
Nisu ostale ni chachkalice

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 02:29

"where in the article is mentioned any interest of other people?"

"... There is a few rl Japanese and thats not good,because i think that Japanese rl has the right to rule this country how ever they want.
Because if that we have a group of autistic people who cant make difference between game and the forum. ..."

"... There is no army,there is no activity in any field only some writtings about anime.
We have some people that are trying to do something for Japan but there is a few of them.
Japan fell into isolation and withdrew into the world of forum and things that are nonexisting...."

@Robert E.Lee 1861
I think you confused about politeness with sucking up. Which one do you prefer? Would you prefer people to listen to you because you explain your points calmly in a logical way or would you prefer people to be angry at you because they feel insulted?

You said a number of times that you want to help, that's a good thing. But if you choose to be confrontational all the time, how can we cooperate with you, and what good can come out of that?

igac.bl
igac.bl Day 1,891, 02:48

eJapan !!!
o7

kowalski_afc
kowalski_afc Day 1,891, 02:56

that 1
1) about anime: where is the attack to anyone? It's simply how it is, he didn't said it's bad... The point was on the army, which is the main thing in this game. In some other game - it's some other thing.
2) about the forum: the same thing, he didn't said that forum is bad, but the point is that forum had the role in v1 and v2. Nowadays, it's mostly useless. But ok, i don't have anything about the forum.
Try to understand that there is 3 things in those 2 sentences: the game, the forum and the anime. Only one of those is directly connected to our goal. Without two others, we can play without the problem.

P.S. If you wanted to point on "autistic", he explained in comments why he used it. I can say that i'm not agree with such word usage, but many times writers are using similar (and much worst) words just to get the reaction from the reader. I put photos of nyotaimori in my article, just to get your attention.

Milutin Markovic
Milutin Markovic Day 1,891, 04:10

Nice one, voted.

Next time put more hot pics.

Robert E.Lee 1861
Robert E.Lee 1861 Day 1,891, 04:26

U deliberately dont want to understand or what?
Kowalski alredy give u answer about those two things but no its better to twist my words so i can became a bad one.
The whole article was about activity and playing the game,i didnt make any request or order people what to do because i cant so u can continue with some others to make an elephant from a fly.

Btw about tolerance and democracy
I was a few times on nippon and a saw that some people spitting on not only Ssrbs but some old jap citizensif u so fancy with terms i will give u some...pig discusting,moron,idiot etc etc
Some of them are spreading the story about love
I am at least honest to say what i mean
Cowardice and speaking behind the back is the best character here as i can see

Kitarou Yuki
Kitarou Yuki Day 1,891, 04:41

Welcome to eJapan! : ) We are glad to have you here, and to see that you want to help us!

Let's go eat Nyotaimori together~

Rik Daphnee
Rik Daphnee Day 1,891, 04:46

Good one Kowalski_afk...

o/

Amaterasu Omikami
Amaterasu Omikami Day 1,891, 04:50

eJapan was not called "The Land of Trolls" and "The Land of Dioism" without reason.

Capone91
Capone91 Day 1,891, 04:57

Je l' to na drugoj slici, u donjem levom uglu, pecat?

Veprina 22
Veprina 22 Day 1,891, 05:07

Capone, ima potpis al nema pecat, sramota xD

Capone91
Capone91 Day 1,891, 05:26

女体盛り

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,891, 07:03

"Kowalski alredy give u answer about those two things but no its better to twist my words so i can became a bad one."

I didnt twist your word, maybe you just didnt use the right words, but as readers, that is the perception your article gave me and a lot of other people who read the article. The evidence of this are the responses you got from the comment area, and you can read that again if you think your article was well received.

"I was a few times on nippon and a saw that some people spitting on not only Ssrbs but some old jap citizensif u so fancy with terms i will give u some...pig discusting,moron,idiot etc etc"

There are trolls everywhere, but this is not about them. You obviously trying to tell us something by writing that article. It was a pretty long article so you obviously gave it a lot of thought.

But your writing style made it look at the big complain, so I guess this is why no one take your points seriously. Hence the negative responses.

"I am at least honest to say what i mean"

It is not about honest or dishonest. You can make the same points honestly without making it look at you are chastising the entire eJapan community. Were you just writing that article to release your frustration or try to get something change out of it? If it is about changing people's mind, your confrontational style just didnt work.

Myung Kei
Myung Kei Day 1,891, 07:20

Welcome! But can we please skip the drama?

Yes everyone here understands you were important in eSerbia, big deal. Whoop de do. This is a different country: different set of people and different mindset about the game.

I only hope your friends can learn and adapt.

Bogosavljev Djurica
Bogosavljev Djurica Day 1,891, 07:29

eJapan
o7

Robert E.Lee 1861
Robert E.Lee 1861 Day 1,891, 07:38

Ok maybe i didnt expressed the best in some sentences but surely didnt want to insult people no.
Most of the sentences that someone took as hate were just examples,
More activity or the state is dead
Be more interested in the state running,increasing money in treasury,Japans position in the world
Sometimes listen to ur allies,help them and you wont be forgoten

But that style i used to use everywhere i been but thats not forbiding or anything alse.
I dont wanna fight against anyone (i didnt came here because of it) so i will not use it anymore.
That is the root of this making an elephant from a fly

TheKralj
TheKralj Day 1,891, 07:39

@that 1 : the rest of us reading this article got your message. Thank you. Don't call us, we'll call you. Good bye. Sayonara....

Amaterasu Omikami
Amaterasu Omikami Day 1,891, 07:41

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" people. "Do as the Romans do"

 
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