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Agreed.
However I would not call all that happened "messed-up eRepublik systems"
eSwiss (that would be us) just never bothered to provide enough candidates where they were needed.
Good lesson, though.

Yup. If I hadn't been so dang busy IRL I bet this would be a lot closer. Stupid Shaolin no-lifers. 😛

Man, you had 24 hours to realize when the battle ends. And half an hour to put any candidate in Grau. JNArno were smart enough to do it. Just do not have to be a slowpoke.

Well, C'est la vie, We will have to ;live with a minimal amount of seats in Congress, ...Fun(Sarcastic tone Intended)

whoops! xD
Thankz

>Just do not have to be a slowpoke.
;_;

This had to be planned in advance. In fact I considered last minute move to Grau, but who would run from Deutschschweiz then?
Like I sai😛 not enough candidates. In Deutschschweiz there were only 3 candidates from SLP and 1 (one!) from SNP. We can not possibly win anything by dumping all our resources in a single region. But people are selfish (this is fact, no blame) and Romandie has a Q5 hospital...

Shaolins are too good at this PTO stuff, Trurl. But we'll get them sooner or later. 🙂

They are just organized, penguin. And experienced.
Primitive democracies like the ones in eRepublik are very vulnerable to manipulations by well organized groups. Even relatively small ones. eSwiss small population is an additional factor - it gives more weight to the PTO group.
I don't know how many Shaolins are currently with eSwiss citizenship. 30? 50? No more than that, I guess. I don't want to spend my time investigating. So it is 5-8%, may be 10%. That is a lot, actually. Up to 1/2 of politically active population. To deals with this we have to organize too.
In RL it may be even worse: in 1933 Germany ~500K members party (less than 1% population) successfully PTOed a country with 65M people.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/elections/country-30-election-president-date-2010-02-region-339" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/elections/co[..]-339

Here is best shown by the number of active population.

Exactly my point: 1/2

In fact there is one mess-up in eRepublik voting system. Even two:

1. Number of candidates is not proportional to the population. It should be. I don't know a single example of RL country with unicameral parliament and non-proportional representation.

2. It is ridiculous that candidates from low population regions can be elected without a single vote (this is what's going on in Graubunden now). No votes - no seats, this should be the rule.

@Trurl, Yes, 0 seats, 0 votes!

Unfortunately brain-slugs are impervious to the rules.

We are closing the gap! For the free eSwitzerland!

@Trurl: Weak up! This isn't the real world, if you can't differenced then you're in the wrong game. Your reaction is like JNArno, he has much problem with the difference too 😉

A example: If you have a guy A with 2 votes and a guy B with 2 votes, who win? The with the most experience points. LEARN, THIS IS ANOTHER UNIVERSE WITH OTHER NATURAL LAW 😛

And yes, your foreign hostile PTO loses, the foreign enemy can't into space 🙂

"If you have a guy A with 2 votes and a guy B with 2 votes, who win?"

The Russian next door with 0 votes. As shown by this election.

& http://www.erepublik.com/ru/citizen/profile/2024468" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/ru/citizen/prof[..]24468

I can see russia from my porch....

Disclaimer(I do not live in Alaska, and unlike Sarah Palin, I actually understand politics 😃

You're wrong, learn please the game. eRussians can't candidate in eSwitzerland, only eSwiss can candidate. Please read here before: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Citizenship" target="_blank">http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Citi[..]ship

What's with the evil Brainwash Project? Where are the wannabe Mentors? They should the rules in eRepublik know 😉

PTO definition: "Political Takeover (coup) - When a highly organized group from a densely populated Country moves into a separate country and gains political power of said country by out numbering other citizens in an election."

Sound familiar?

You ask better Eleriel and Ilestis. They have the most experience in PTOs. This guys have imported many citizens from EDEN to protect their dictatorship. Ilestis has sai😛 I have 300 EDEN citizens of the list.

Therefore you have right, the SLP elite is a PTO group. Beside importing of EDEN citizens, they have also try PTO a eSwiss party called SNP.
http://www.erepublik.com/de/article/pto-defeated-pto-vereitelt-1146838/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/de/article/pto-[..]/1/20

> admins decided to screw over the United Party of Switzerland

nope. sloooowpooke one more time.

So, Cliff, do you really believe that political processes are run according to the NATURAL law?
Laws of reason and convenience rather. There is nothing natural about them, they a completely man made. Same in eRepublik, with an exception that here both, reason and convenience, are often missing. Shouldn't unreasonable and inconvenient laws be changed - what do you think?

In eRepublik ist es ein Naturgesetz, die Admins sind die Götter und machen dieses Universum, dazu gehört auch das Wahlsystem. Gewöhne dich also erstmals daran bis sich unsere Götter ein neues System einfallen lassen 😉
Mir währe natürlich unser echtes Schweizer Wahlsystem am liebsten, aber die Götter waren so frech das sie nicht mal unsere Kantone erschaffen haben, ne frechheit 🙁

Yeah, why are there only five parties one can vote for it´s candidates?? depends on number of members? man, this could (should!!) have been made public before.. so everyone of us could have joined an other party.

if so, i have to admit: gratulations to shaolin! successfully played by the rules and well organized!

Если не указывать богам на несовершенство созданного ими мира, как же они смогут сделать этот мир лучше?
😉

Time Control & Support Lt😛 Very thanks. You are great opponents.

TCS:

"Yeah, why are there only five parties one can vote for it´s candidates?? depends on number of members? man, this could (should!!) have been made public before.. so everyone of us could have joined an other party."

It is like so for ages. Our leaders simply failed big time in organizing these congress elections. Lynari's 20 votes could have meant 3 seats for the eSwiss, for example. Instead of that, his advertisement was running even AFTER the elections ended. The eSwiss had not enough candidates, fell to the Graubunden trick, the UPoS was pushed out of the top 5 the day before the elections without the slightest attempt from other non-Shaolin parties to help them, voters were not informed about the standings and who did or did not need votes, there were no mobile reserves and elections became an unbalanced match between a highly organized and efficient PTO group and a community without concept, organization and leadership. Self-proclaimed leaders failed to organize and inform the community, all initiatives to decrease the chaos-factors were individual and isolated, sometimes even contradicting each other. I call for those who have recently announced ther ambition to run for presidency not to only wait for votes and preach about unity, but to start gettin things done at last. 'Cause this way eSwitzerland will fail again and again and we'll never be anything than an eRussian colony.

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"Instead of that, his advertisement was running even AFTER the elections ended."

Actually, Lynari's ad was made by the Shaolins. xD

Yeah, the system is indeed highly messed up. The equal number of votes for each region- whether it has 14 citizens or 380- is simply ridiculous. Unthinkably ridiculous.

Seriously, if the Admins must set all the political workings and processes identically in each country, couldn't they at least set it to something that makes sense?