Keep Old Superalliance Garbage Out of New South Africa!
Arjay Phoenician
I’ve been in and out of South Africa since it re-emerged from oblivion. I’ve known people like Ines Schumacher and Enoch Root for months, and I’m proud to call them friends. Ever since I heard of South Africa coming back from the dead, I’ve been intrigued about the people who were part of that community, those who negotiated for their re-emergence. I wanted to be part of something like that, maybe someday I will, but until that happens, I’ll probably continue to pop in.
This is a community which has done a lot of things right, from peacefully negotiating their very existence, to fending off the Ajay Bruno cult as easily as swatting away a fly. They’ve maintained “neutrality”, whatever that is, in spite of having Indonesia still owning half the original country. They take part of the Sol wargames and have build Q5 hospitals. They’ve created programs to take care of their own; a few weeks ago, I pitched for the World Alliance of Truth, to which I was told in the comments, thanks, but charity starts at home, and to my delight, those weren’t the words of an isolationist community telling the rest of the world to go to hell, but of a tightly-knit family with actions to back up that declaration. They’re pushing for a baby-boom in order to boost population. It’s a slow push, a steady grind, but these are people who not only know what they’re doing, they’ve kept their community in tact.
The last thing South Africa needs is to get itself caught up in the aggressive, chaotic, and completely vain War of the Superalliances.
There has been talked by suits and wannabe-suits, that South Africa should become part of EDEN, the largest fragment of the dead ATLANTIS alliance. When coupled with the might of the United States, apparently taking their near-death experience completely for granted and seeking to start the same old tired ATLANTIS garbage again by unleashing PTO and RW mercenaries, ATLANTIS Junior is seeking to meet the current bully on the block, PEACE, blow for blow, thrust for thrust. Between them, they seek to split the world into two camps, two evil empires; there is nothing to morally, ethically, honorably, or spiritually separate the two, and aside from different rosters of client nations, they are twins.
Becoming just another leaf on the EDEN tree is going to take away something special that is growing in South Africa, something rare, something essential, something you lose when you sell out to the superalliances. That’s called identity, and that’s something South Africa has, and so many countries who give into the superalliance threat for the sake of security don’t. It’s something that’s built, struggled for. It’s also something you lose when you allow someone else to call the shots in your country.
I’ve watched the UK deal with PEACE elitists, selling off Scotland to Hungary to allow them to invade North America, all for the low low price of a bright and shiny Q5 hospital. Eventually they voted them out, but not until their handpicked Prime Minister forced a war with Sweden down the UK’s throats, a war they lost. Now they’re moving onto Japan, a country less than thrilled with being part of a warmongering cult, staying in the alliance in the hope of returning it to its “defensive” stature; PEACE is seeking to reel in Japan and make it a more obedient subject.
On the flipside, you have a reconstituted ATLANTIS: new name, new management, same crap. Romanians plant dead citizens in rival countries, and when they are revived with automatic citizenship, all of EDEN cheers the ingenuity of a new form of PTO. The US “liberates” Flanders from the United Netherlands, using RW and PTO tactics and the transparent excuse of freedom, whatever that is, and all of EDEN cheers the emergence of their new PTO champion, Seal Team 6.
Anyone who talks about being part of EDEN or PEACE wants South Africa to be part of THIS.
In so many things, in the real world and at eRepublik, people come up to me and say I have to pick a side. Republican or Democrat. Liberal or conservative. Yankees or Red Sox. Coke or Pepsi. They’re all false choices, and sometimes, dammit, I’d just like to guzzle a Mountain Dew.
It is the same way with ATLANTIS and PEACE, a false choice between two bad ideas.
For me, when presented the false choice, I choose honor. I choose integrity. I choose a country keeping its identity, no matter the price, as opposed to succumbing to superalliance intimidation, because, truly, what good does it do to protect the boundaries of a nation if there’s nothing inside worth protecting? I choose people who want something more than theft, backstabbing, and bullying as a way of life. I choose people who aren’t so pigheaded as to fight fire with fire, but are wise enough to simply grab a frikking water hose.
Picking a superalliance for a master is picking the lesser of two evils. Isn’t there enough evil to contend with? Aren’t there already too many false choices for you to make? You don’t have to pick evil here. You don’t have to crack off a piece of your national soul for the sake of empire masquerading as defense alliances. You don’t have to side with one set of bastards over the other and then have to justify your choice when they manhandle their own client nations or play PTO’s in their neverending posturing. You can reach into the fridge and grab a Mountain Dew.
South Africa’s got something special going on here. They didn’t need EDEN to get this, because this has nothing to do with handing a problem to the superalliances and letting them play tug-of-war with it. They have a country because their community negotiated for it. They have some degree of security because they used diplomacy. They’ve done the right thing, and they’ve built something they can be proud of. It is unique and still pristine. Do not let either PEACE or ATLANTIS Junior get their dirty fingers on it.
Comments
Except remember who fought beside South Africa when PEACE was invading them 🙂
So Arjay, you can't tell the difference between a group that has repeatedly invaded eSAfrica, and one that wants eSAfrica free?
STFU Arjay, you used to actually have good articles, but now it's just you foaming at the mouth over how evil everyone in an alliance is.
You say that EDEN and PEACE are being vain, when you yourself are really the vain one. Claiming eSA has something special going on, saying you're so special, you're so different, is just selfish and ignorant of what the rest of the world is doing. You can choose to isolate yourself in your own little community. But you won't get far. Neutrality is boring. What exactly are you doing for the world with your self centered politics? Nothing. Why would anyone be interested in living in your little peaceful community? Peace is dull.
By the way, what exactly do you have going for yourself? The ONLY one of your little regions that has anything is Limpopo, with high diamonds. Are all your little citizens going to work with gift companies now? You can't do ANYTHING in the way of grain, oil, iron, or wood. Nothing. Not even a medium.
Your country is destined to fail. Indonesia enjoys control of your Northern and Western cape. Unless EDEN or Seal Team 6 decides to RW back the rest of your regions, you are locked in an endless decline of economic progress. You cannot succeed.
Simply put, by lobbying to get eSA out of world alliances, you are preventing any advancement. Is that really what you want? You really want South Africa to go in an endless economic decline? If we compare the wages of your workers to any EDEN (or PEACE for that matter) country, converted into gold, your workers make massively less. Manufacturing at skill 7 gains you 17 ZEK. Thats worth basically 17 USD, which is skill 5 anything over here. You are hardly some economic paradise.
Whats good about your country again? Oh right, you avoid global politics. Basically you ignore the rest of the world. Now I'm not sure about you, but personally I don't think thats a good thing.
It wasn't E/B that initiated massive invasions into sovereign nations today.
But what do you do if no one has Mountain Dew?
Mountain Dew is owned by Pepsi
🙁
Do the members of EDEN/Bro-Alliance realize that, by posting such witty comments as "STFU", that they are distancing the population of eSA as a whole from themselves?
I love how you completely ignore my comment, which actually had reasons as to why this article is basically bullshit.
No matter what points, good or bad, your comment may have made, the comment by person who will be associated with you by the similarities expressed in both, will ultimately cause you to lumped in with him.
Also, your comment about "endless decline of economic progress," not only smacks of arrogance, but ignorance. While you've clearly spent time looking into how eSA's resources are positioned, you didn't both to realize that it's current strength is considerable, especially when you account for the fact it's only been around since August.
In itself, that would be a good thing. The problem I see is the lack of raw material regions.
By the way, sorry for the hostility. I'm tired. =.=
Anyway, I honestly cannot see how eSA can continue on an economic rise without some kind of raw material regions. I'm right in saying you only have a high diamond region, and nothing in the medium. Your other regions are controlled by Indonesia and Brazil. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but eSA has no way of actually fighting against these regions alone. Also, and correct me if I'm wrong, neither Indonesia or Brazil has access to a nice high diamond region anywhere else.
As far as I can tell, diplomacy isn't going to get you back regions that are considered valuable by a country as strong as Indonesia. Seems to me that you're going to hit an economic roadblock without access to at the least medium grain, iron, oil, or wood regions.
I will say I'm impressed with the wages on Diamonds especially at the lower levels.
Apology accepted. I hope you will accept mine, as well. Thank you.
I won't sit here and air dirty laundry or comment further on eSA's political or military situation. What I will say is that if EDEN does desire to be seen as a liberator, as a good guy, as the protagonist in this current conflict, the individual members of that alliance need to be much more careful in how they represent it to the neutral world.
In that respect, we agree.
I do hope eSA sees that EDEN is not ATLANTIS, and that ATLANTIS was not the cause of the Brazilian PTO. High Diamond regions are rare and tempting. They are magnets for countries deprived of any Diamond regions. EDEN is not the evil here.
While eRep differentiates itself from other online games by emphasizing social strategy, aggression is still allowed, and many players bring a smash and grab mentality into the game... not to mention RL nationalism and grudges...
The increased cost of MPP's is going to add to this problem. It will become increasingly difficult for small countries to survive without the help of large alliances.
I hope eSA will align itself with groups that support self-rule and de-emphasize conquest. It is possible that eUSA could be an ally, though quite frankly the act of "liberating" Flanders from the voluntary Netherlands-Belgium unification makes me very suspicious.
Wow, way to win us over guys. eSA remembers when allies came to fight, I hope the US remembers that many of the old eSAfricans are still over there, fighting in the US's battles.
eSA wants regions back, but we want them back on our own terms, on our own means. We are steadily growing, but have absolutely no way to maintain 9 regions at this time. Especially not all at once, in such a way that would just about triple our population.
If you want the economic argument, look at eAus right now. Their markets are crashing, Indos control around a third to a half of all the companies in their country, and they have massive labor shortages from all the active Indo population leaving all those companies at once. eAus had about 3K people at the time, and gained around 200 companies, which would provide enough employment for 2,000 people.
There are more people in Brazilian occupied Gauteng alone than in all of eSA (800). There are also a huge number of companies there. We could maybe, MAYBE handle that one region. If we got hit with 5 of them at once, we simply would have no economy left.
We want the regions, don't get us wrong, but to get the regions in that fashion would cripple us. We simply do not have the population to handle it.
Thanks for the article, Arjay.
Annoyingly, you have a point. That doesn't ignore the fact that you cannot continue growing with only a high diamond region and nothing even in the medium regions.
Also, Australia is recovering quickly. Indonesian population is leaving, and Australia now has access to the good raw mats provided by their new region. And cheap labor is attracting many new companies in their region. As a result, I don't really see why its a problem that Australia has new access to raw materials they didn't before.
Eventually we will hit that point where we can't grow anymore. We are far from it though. It isn't much but the return of a medium grain region is already on the table, along with another region.
We're taking it one step at a time. Eventually the time will come when it's either get those regions back, or stagnate here. We have a long way to go to be able to fill the regions we do have though. It's something we are addressing as a nation, and hopefully, the problem with labor shortages won't be so bad soon, and we can actually have people to put in other regions.
I'm one of those RW mercenaries who was planning on freeing up some more regions for South Africa. Well, it looks like you isolationists will get your wish, and despite the claims of Exilious, Eden won't be fighting any rwars for you anytime soon, since WW4 is breaking out in Europe. I could see Indonesia possibly agreeing to free Eastern Cape and Kwazulu Natal, but as for the rest of the regions forget it, in fact they are ordering people to move into Northern Cape to reinforce it. Good luck with the neutrality thing.
Thanks ndvander. How's that PTO in Belgium going btw? Or did you already skip out of there?
I totally agree Arjay, PEACE and EDEN both respect SA's neutrality so why get caught up in an agressive and neverending war when you can stay on the sidelines.
SA have enough on their plate rebuilding their country, they dont need to get involved in this mess.
EDEN never had any plans for eSA beyond a maybe, despite everything Exilious said. It was all wash. Just one more troll.
Enoch, Belgium is controlled by a shadowy organization called "The Group" which is from Romania. That is all I know about them. I support Habraka Abrivianius, who is a RL Belgian. The economy there isn't exactly thriving, but it was just liberated a few days ago. As for me I have fought several battles since then including Western Australia.
I don't understand why you guys equate Peace with Eden. PEACE occupies and oppresses nations, including your own. Eden liberates them. Who just started the unprovoked attacks today?
wut! the Red Sox of course... 😉
"EDEN never had any plans for eSA beyond a maybe, despite everything Exilious said. It was all wash. Just one more troll."
Exactly.
I support neutrality for eSA. Personally, however (as you can see from my being in Sweden), I fight for EDEN, and against PEACE.
@Arjay:
Your initiative is quite noble and shall be considered, so don't care about those who try troll your articles in order to discredit your words/thoughts through Argumentum ad Hominem. Don't forget: the more the truth you expose in your articles, the more trolls will come after you trying depreciate you for your words in the lamest ways possible.
This is happening in Australia as well:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-srg-eaus-stuff-to-expect-think-about-and-choose-upon-in-the-coming-month-1010902/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-srg[..]1/20
Don't feed the trolls and keep up with the interesting articles!
@Asterix~ O.O!
eSA is p well run atm with its currently steady growing pop. God only knows how hard it would be to get things running smoothly if our pop suddenly quadrupled. The citizenship apps alone! *shivers* Enoch understands this game better than I do though, so I trust his judgement on this matter.
I agree with what Austerion said.
I support a neutral SA. I however will keep on fighting PEACE on my own.
well.....
My opinions about eSA and EDEN, and why it is not a right fit:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-eden-can-t-be-esa-s-saviors-1012823/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-[..]1/20
We are doing well on our own look at what Enoch and the rest of the congress have done for this nation. I am proud to be an eSouth African and even if I have only done a little bit for this nation I know that every bit counts and will get us further into the future. I am against EDEN and PEACE as they will only bring problems to our proud nation.
This is a very good article well done Arjay
"PEACE occupies and oppresses nations, including your own. Eden liberates them. Who just started the unprovoked attacks today?"
Fight Red in Northern Cape. Tanks after midnight New World time.
*looks at comments*
No support for EDEN, eh?
Australia has gained nothing from WA except oil and hundreds of dead companies. What's the win again?
WA has been Indonesian for 18 months, give it time. Eventually (probably with some help from Americans looking for a new experience) some Americans will come around and start jump starting the economy.