Is There a "Correct" Way to Play eRep?
Alix Acklin
Recently I have read an abundant amount of articles about the "right" and "honorable" way to play eRep. The Theocratic Nation of South Korea has been accused of racism, apartheid, oppression, terrorism, and even genocide. Many of our opposition have called our "play" sickening, bullying, and one that has trampled on the hopes and dreams of others. We were told that we had no right to eSouth Korea and that the so-called "real Koreans" had plans of rebuilding the country. Plans that the Theocrats came in and ruined. So what! This is indeed a game. A game that benefits those that plan, organize, use strategy, and follow through.
The truth is that there never was a PTO in eSouth Korea last month as many have lead the New World to believe. A simple fact is that a government must be in place in order to politically take over the country. There was no Congress, and as a new land just released from eJapan, everyone in the eWorld had the right to move to eSouth Korea and become a Citizen. This is how eRepublik works. The Theocrats won the election because we jumped on the opportunity and were more organized than the other contending group vying for control of the country. This isn't a PTO, it is better game play. We "cared" more about that region than anyone else in this game. Knowing the rules of the game, eJapan needed to be more prepared in releasing the region if they wished for it to be run their way. Instead, they were an ill prepared nation, and their plans were crushed by our strategy. They speak of this "true Korean" community that we ruined. The fact is that the "true" Korean now is a Theocrat. This isn't RL, and we rewrote History in this area of the world, just as eRepublik encourages citizens to do.
Following our victory in Congress, eJapan immediately declared War, then retreated, which was a bug. Considering there was only 1 region, that option should not have even been available. As this was rightfully Theocratic land, we started a RW and won. Following that a Theocrat was elected President in a Democratic election. We attempted to pursue a peace treaty, but were shot down by an overzealous eJapanese government, and War was inevitable. eJapan declared War on The Theocratic Nation of South Korea, and again eJapan lost the War to the Theocrats. In fact, when the dust settled, we had 2 regions. The aftermath consisted of the derogatory comments mentioned in the first paragraph from our opposition. In another Democratic election yesterday, the Theocrats won 75% of the Congressional seats, clearly giving us complete control of the country. We won election after election, war after war, and endured constant lies and dramatic pleas from our opponents. In the end the people spoke at the booths, and The Theocratic Nation of South Korea has officially been born and introduced to the world.
The truth of the matter is that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to play the game, as long as the game mechanics allow it. Nobody can ruin or trample the friendships that are made through this social network. However, when it comes to a region of land it is the strong and well prepared that will always prevail. To even mention the semantics of "tradition" and "rights to land" is pointless. This is a game that encourages re-writing the "tradition" that we have lived with in RL. To call us evil for successfully and tactically defeating an ill prepared nation is simply poor gamesmanship. If from the start you accepted that first defeat, and planned an effective counter maneuver, perhaps things would be different. Instead the non Theocrats chose to cry and declare us an evil, genocidal, terrorist group. Now they are left with almost no way of overthrowing us unless they dare to attempt military action.
Soon the world will see that the Theocratic system is one that encourages friendship, hard work, strategy, economic progress, and most importantly, Military strength. What was seen in eSwitzerland was only the tip of the iceberg. Nothing is just handed to you in this game. We worked hard to get where we are, and we will become a prosperous nation because of that hard work.
We all need to realize that this is indeed a Game. Nobody has to like the way, or agree with the way any other citizen decides to play the game. Choose your role and play accordingly. If you wish to be someone that opposes the Theocrats, be that. However, don't do it by telling us that we "play" the game wrong. We obviously have proven that we play the game just fine. We can't take away any of your social interaction, we can only make your game play more active and more challenging.
When you log in to the game, do it to have fun. This is the New World and RL tradition has no room here. Live a new life. Experience new things.
Re-write History, don't live the same one we all already know and live on a daily basis.
Comments
I fully support Theocratic way of play.
They FOUGHT to get South Korea.
Not like some "South Koreans" who selected to sell South Korea to Japan.
By the way I think eJapan can not talk about apartheid. Who can forget the debate in eJapan concerning voting rights of eNorth Korean refuges?
I think eJapan opposes the Theocrats, just because they lost their puppet state.
The best for eJapan is to accept the Theocratic government and stop all those poor tactics.
Here is one former North Korean that believes that the tactics that the Theocrats use to obtain and maintain their power are sickening. If you tried it IRL you would be placed on a terror list. They say it's a game, but that never gave anyone a reason to be an a-hole.
There is no "right" or "wrong" way to play the game, of course. The best way is to have fun!
However, the good democracies of the world, such as eJapan, that encourage pluralism and multiple party participation in the political process will always oppose totalitarian regimes that create a system using extremely high levels of taxation to crowd out competition. Regimes such as the Theocratic regime occupying eSouth Korea...
I don't really see how ruining the fun of others in order to increase your own fun is justifiable by any means.
>Not like some "South Koreans" who selected to sell South Korea to Japan.
It was a peaceful merge that lasted for almost half a year. Now, had we not, most assuredly we would have "sold ourselves" to eChina.
I am sorry to say you are wrong about there is no right or wrong about playing this game. If you say that there are no universial right or wrong about playing this game, then I'd say you are probably more correct.
Because there are a number of different moral theories out there to judge what is right or wrong, and it really depends on the perspective you think is the most important to you.
For me, you just dont do something that is unexceptable to yourself. If you think all you did is just moving to a empty plot of land, this is fundementally incorrect because the eSK leaders were emerging after the revolution, after all the hard work of negotiation they undertook with eJapan government. If you dont recognise this, you can not have a honest debate about the issue.
It is undeniable that your action are affecting someone else. One way to determine right from wrong is to put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if all your time and effort you spent on develop eSK is taking away from you? If you favour victor's justice now that you are winning, do you favour it when you are losing everything you make the effort to achieve?
Btw, maybe you can provide an answer to this question. Why are some of the theocrats running as Korean Nationalist Party candidates in the election?
Of course there is a right way to play. "Right" is defined by the rules. For instance, if I were to PTO a country with 60+ multi accounts, that would be wrong. PTOing a country with legitimate accounts? Not a cool thing to do, but hey, all's fair right.
Not that the theocrats would know anything about anything like that.
What's interesting to me, also, is that you keep writing these wall of text articles to try and justify the whole situation, and publishing them in Japan. As if anyone in Japan cares what you think. Honestly, of everyone who responded, did anyone even read the whole article? Somehow, I doubt it.
You guys won, Japan was unprepared for... what happened. Why is that not good enough for you? What do you care what anyone thinks? Do you want to talk about your feelings? Have some flavored coffees perhaps?
Winning an initial election by one vote and then having 50 of those voting accounts banned for being multis is all fair is it now? Why not preach it to the drones as we don't like your type here.
"The truth is that there never was a PTO in eSouth Korea last month as many have lead the New World to believe."
How would you differ your actions to PTO then? You are just stating this as fact with no justisfication.
"Instead, they were an ill prepared nation, and their plans were crushed by our strategy. They speak of this "true Korean" community that we ruined. The fact is that the "true" Korean now is a Theocrat."
" This isn't RL, and we rewrote History in this area of the world, just as eRepublik encourages citizens to do."
I am not saying anything about tradition or the real life. But is this a fact that a "true" Swiss or "true" Pakistani was once a theocrat. That's the value of your attachment you have to your eSKer tag now. Of course, you care about this plot of land, because it gives your organisation some sort of independent to other groups in the eWorld, but as soon as your country is destroyed, you will just move on to another easy target as eSOMEWHEREers.
If you compare that to the people you belittled who had negotiated hard with eJapan government to achieve independent. You know what. They really care about their tag, and they are much more "real" than you are. And btw, note I didnt even use RL or tradition into my argument.
If you had won fair and square then there would be no problems or issues.
The sourcing of the additional votes that went to Theocratic candidates in the August elections (through no apparent fault of your own) that enabled you to take control of the levers of state are the problem.
A similar sourcing problem has occured in these last elections and unless we can track down the rogue player who seems intent on blackening the Theocratic cause and name by using these additional votes for you - this will continue to be a problem.
One player, one vote and a fair election is all we wanted.
First, I offer my Congratulations to the Theocratic congressmen.
Following the Law is all that is required.
1. All citizens are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
2. No citizen should oppress another citizen.
3. Freedom of press is absolute (without breaking amendments 2, 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2)
4. Properties obtained by a citizen through an illegal or unjust method will be impounded. Such types of actions may result in a permanent ban. Additionally, if these properties are sold or transferred before being impounded, entities involved in these transactions can receive a permanent ban.
5. A real user may express his/her will upon only one citizen.
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Yet, Theocratic mantra is "In times of war, the law falls silent."
Keep your game face on, Alix, you're sounding soft. Winning a battle does not win the war, dear. Game on.
@Rolan😛
I wasn't aware Theocrats ran as Korean Nationalists and wouldn't know why if it did happen.
If I had planned something for a lengthy period, and had a group come in and ruin those plans by defeating us, I would be upset. However, I would realize that they were just obviously better prepared. Honestly, that would make the game more fun for me. From that point on my "game play" would be to get it back. That is the point I can't relate to. Why can't some people see that aspect of the game as a challenge? This isn't Disneyland. There are 3 major parts to eRep; Politics, Military, and the Media. When any of the three parts of the game come in to play, a citizen should be ready for anything and everything to happen, because others are going to play it like a game. Toes are stepped on in Politics, War, and in Newspapers. We all have our own plans, and to the victors go the spoils. Neither group was aware of either sides plans. But, an opportunity presented itself, and our effort proved that we "cared" more than our opposition about gaining eSK.
Trouble is, for us to match your initial 'effort' on the political front we'd have to sail very close to "how not to play the game".
If the game in eSK is going to be who can make the most 'efforts' then its not worth it for us.
One of the unresolved issues from the talks we had some time ago was over the issue of representation in politics in eSK and that representation being a true representation and not effected by 'efforts'
"I wasn't aware Theocrats ran as Korean Nationalists and wouldn't know why if it did happen. "
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"However, I would realize that they were just obviously better prepared. Honestly, that would make the game more fun for me. From that point on my "game play" would be to get it back. That is the point I can't relate to. Why can't some people see that aspect of the game as a challenge?"
Interestingly, your action contradict with yourself. If you see losing to a stronger opposite as a challenge, then why aren't you fighting the Hungarians in the Switzerland? I mean the only reason you come to eSK is because it is easy, where is the "fun" you mentioned by beating a weakling country in its infancy?
What Roland said. You lost all sorts of stuff that you had worked at for months in Switzerland, and then just gave up. I guess that wasn't as fun for you as you said it would be, huh?
But to answer the question of the article, no, there is not a correct way. But there is a right way. And it's not what you're doing.
Since I know the Theocrats often have trouble with English, I will explain what I am doing here. I studied English for fourteen years to get to the ability I now possess, so I'll share with you the secrets of my words. In English, "right" means not only correct, but is the same root as "righteous," that is, the "noble" way. Any way in eRep is correct (except of course cheating, but the Theocrats wouldn't know anything about that, eh? With all the permabanned accounts sitting in South Korea...), but fare fewer are right.
Great article🙂
As long as you dont break the game rules the GM's made,there is no "right" or "wrong" way to play.
Of course there are, you are making decisions in the game everyday. Are you going to make a decision believing it is a wrong way to play?
Of course your beliefs maybe different to other people. And they may play the game differently to you, and you may think they played the game the wrong way.
As for right is being "righteous"? I think this is just one of the many ethical values existed. There are many others, that's why I said it would be more correct to say there are no universial "right" or "wrong", of course, if you are a moral absolutist, you'd probably disagree.
I am quite aware of the meaning of "right" Reiji. My writing background is far beyond just studying. "Right" in this context means "correct". Righteous is not the end all be all of the word, and not even the most commonly used form. To be righteous is a waste of time in this game. Do charity work in RL to fulfill those desires. To play "correctly" is to use the game mechanics to the full extent. You continually mention those banned accounts. We know nothing of those as a group. If a rogue is at work, it's hard to say there isn't one in every group. Plus, those accounts were banned before the last election, which we won in a more defining manner than the previous.
"Unfaithful: he's not a user, he's not a theocratic. Alive or dead makes no difference, but his punishment will be endless."
"Theocratical power is manifested through the entire detachment of the imposed rules in the game. Theocracy implements a pression on the structure of the state for consolidating its own existence.
Any member must known his role, interpreting it through the high power of the gods, spreading his own theocratical being for the wellness of the others.
The worshiped deities are Dio Brando, Dio Akira, Dio Maksas, Colinar and other minor deities related to different cults
These entities are different form of the “Platonic One” however they remain separated."
I continue to mourn the loss of life in eSK. The lost potential of native-born babies, born into a nation ruled by fundamentalists who would deny the youth free will. If not indoctrinated into Theocracy, these babies are what? Used as child labor? left to die? or ostracized? So you say you'll offer a moving ticket to some unknown location or a remedial job that offers them little hope of growing into independent citizens in their own right? Whether they die prematurely or struggle and survive into adolescence...I cannot see where their hope for a prosperous future lies other than drinking the kool-aid of Theocrats.
To play "correctly" is to seek BALANCE between LEGAL game mechanics and self-awareness of one's actions and the impact those actions may have on future generations. Sooner or later, we all die. I hope Theocrats raise their young to think for themselves, even if those thoughts conflict with the false Dios.
The correct way to play the game Rainy is to win. It's why you play any game. In this case, you lost. Keep babbling in comments, but your seriousness for the game is laughable. Kool-Aid? Are you a big Bill O'Reily fan?
hey alix, you are a douche. nobody wins in this game. this is a simulation of the real world. so in the end, anything goes.
“Nothing is fixed. In and out the shuttle goes, fact and fiction, mind and matter, woven into patterns that may have only this in common: that hidden amongst them is a filigree which will with time become a world.”
O'Reilly? Hardly. I didn't realize he'd joined the New World.
Game face, Alix, put it back on. Find your sense of humour, seems you've misplaced it somewhere between "right" and "wrong".
So, the correct way is To win, eh? gosh, I didn't realize! hmm...though I've never known an opponent to win by overturning the chessboard.
btw~ How's things in the Peoples Temple? Mind the Flavor-aid, it tastes of Death & Almonds.
....babble, babble, babble...and I ♥ you, too, Sweetheart.
I can't stand you stupid people who don't believe in consequences for your actions. You people who think that its okay to be an @$$hole in a game cause its just a game. That it doesn't matter you are being an @$$hole to REAL people in a game that is part of REAL life. WAKE UP! You live a really shallow existence if you believe the crap coming out of your mouth and even if you do your actions in this game and that fact that you are saying those things show us all how pathetic your moral convictions in real life are.
Way to say it Alex.
I couldn't say it better!
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