Ireland and Military Units.
orangejuicemmm
I am beginning to love and enjoy all these new military unit reform articles and the various replies and opinions being shared about how Ireland should solve our over-saturation problem but It’s getting pretty boring now considering it’s quite obvious no one really has any idea what they are doing/talking about.
Let’s focus on Malbekh here for a second; Ok, so the kid, yes kid in terms of eRepublik, did some good stuff at bootcamp and I suppose this should give him some prestige amongst the various other “mouths” in our lovely society but I’m sorry Mal it doesn’t give you the right to dictate how Ireland should operate Military wise.
Something which I find quite amusing and you and several others seem to find interesting is your new Military Unit the Malcontent. Over the last week or so you have basically been talking as if this MU is the saviour that Ireland needs or that it is something special but it just isn't. You just got lucky. For instance you have practically zero structure of any kind so excuse me if I or anyone else doesn't take advice from you. Also, you fortunately enough can boast that 25% of your members are God Of Wars but they achieved GoD whilst not in your MU or to be honest with the help of any other MU they simple bought gold to fight. So technically, any “damage” or “influence” the Malcontents do would be done anyway regardless of your MU or anyone else’s MU. You simply tell them where to fight which is ironic considering in your most recent article you confess “we can't possibly hope to hit in any coordinated fashion”. Sorry mate but you’re just as much to blame for this as those other “16 MU’s”
This is the opposite with Military Units like the Irish Citizen Army, Irish Army and even Libertad. We all supply our members with the best weapons available and we supply a lot of weapons for our members to fight with.
So what should Ireland do? I definitely agree that we need to alter our MU structure and cut out those useless unorganised MU’s in order to improve Ireland’s international standing and I’m sorry to say the Malcontents fall into that bracket regardless of their current damage output. We should let Libertad be Libertad and fight for Paraguay all they want. The ICA should be allowed to continue as it is once it can provide the best for its members and the IA should be our national MU as it was intended and facilitate the various other Military Units into various different Divisions within.
Now, I can very well see why people will be shouting about favouritism or my obvious bias toward the ICA but let’s call a spade a spade here, the ICA is Ireland longest standing Military Unit, has the infrastructure to provide Q7 weapons to all of its members and up until recently could dish out double the damage any other Military Unit in Ireland could WITHOUT the help of the state. We can be independent of the state if we want unlike everyone else.
That’s about it for me, hope you enjoyed my poorly composed and expressed rant.
P.S I have nothing against Malbekh or the Malcontents just stating where I see them now and in the future.
Comments
Go to college.
ICA really is Ireland's best MU
IA really should be Ireland's national MU and only MU with government help as national MU
Libertad should be capable to finance themselves...and fight in their resistance wars or w/e..
Only thing I don't support here is your view how IA should work. I don't think we should make regiments based on current MU's. Regiments should be solved according to divisions of soldiers and IA should really work like it is national MU, without differences.
Other MU's will join IA anyway because most of them are incapable to finance themselves. Just organise IA how it should be. United Irish MU!
Vote and shout soon.
P.S.
Mal had good intentions, that's all I can tell. No need to attack his MU tbh
I'm so happy that you OJ, known 2-clicker, feel so threatened by our existence that you feel the need to put through such a blatant piece of BS propaganda as this article, Fact of the matter is that we do about 50% more influence that the ICA with 35% of your members.
Fact of the matter is that by tarring the Malcontents, you tar the likes of moo, Yddub and James who have done more more for this country with their fingernails than you have ever done.
There's nothing wrong with the ICA that a bit of leadership won't help with. It deserves to remain a respected unit and I hope it returns to form. Articles like this don't help the situation and it just shows you, and your unit, in a very poor light.
Agreed with everything Mal wrote. Also,something to show that he's not making things up - and that he's talking the truth
http://egov4you.info/unit/overview/655
http://egov4you.info/unit/overview/2227
OJ since you are not a member of the Malcontents, how do you know we are unorganized? I have not seen you comment in our PM threads.
Kind of a shoddy piece of work.
You've made some good points but you're fanning the wrong flames.
You can bitch about Malcontents "gold buyers" all you like but I remember the ICA boasting about it's damage at times when the majority of it was coming from gold buyers like Snuggles, Fritz and myself. Even the boss.
It's been awhile since you've published one of your shit stirring articles so I'm happy to see it and to be given the opportunity to once again say, "Go fuck yourself OJ!"
Thanks.
Love ya bro.
I personally quite like my MU 🙂
@Yddub The majority was not coming from Gold buyers. That's the difference. We had 50+ members all being supplied with weapons and fighting in the appropriate battles. Malcontents have 12 members with the majority of them being involved heavily with several different military units and countries over the past year or so.
@Malbekh I am not attacking anyone or anything. I'm merely stating how I see it. Claiming that Yddub and James have done more for Ireland than me in anything other than...
..damage is laughable and shows not just your youth but also your ignorance. I'm not going to bother telling you what I have done for Ireland cause the past is the past but I can assure you the IA and the ICA would not be anywhere near what it is without me. Being one of the founders and the first commander of the Irish Army I can assure you this is true.
Secondly, I'd like to point out that your whole military unit are all two-clickers and have been for the bulk of their time in Ireland..
so using that as a way of slandering me or something is mightily ironic. I have been working for Ireland and various groups in Ireland actively for 2 and half years. I think I deserve a break.
I have no problem with the ICA doing its own thing, but it and the other MU's should not depend on the irish goverment to subsidise them with weapons/cash.
the Irish Army is Irelands longest serving/national army/Mu and should be the only one funded by the state and should be divided into the relevent divisions and the soldiers supplied accordingly, provided they work in state industrys making the required weapons/Rm.
With the current economic climate its important that the goverment channels all funding into its own Army and makes provision for its self sufficency. players are free to choose whatever MU they want, however in the end they will chose the one that offers the best supply and security, and that should be the Irish Army.
@OJ, you're not attacking you're trolling. Because anyone with half a brain can see it. Yddub has donated more for this country than you'll ever know, let alone get around to doing. Just ask the BC commanders. Pick on me if you want to, but leave out the people who have put their country before their ego. Unlike you.
Agreed Nogin and the ICA is one of the few MU's who can provide for it's members.
@Mal I'm not going to get into an argument about who has done more or what ever and I know Yddub will blow a fuse when I say this but anyone can buy gold and donate vast amount of stuff to anything and it is an aspect of a game that we need but I have given up time in my real life to work on this country which is more than he and a lot of other can say.
@mMal You say I'm trolling but yet in the same comment you tell me to stop picking on people or if you will "attacking" people. Calm down and read the article again. I'm not picking on anyone I'm just stating things how I see it. The eIrish Roy Keane if you will.
Eamonn Dunphy would be nearer the mark.
eIrish Roy Keane is it? This article is all 'fail to prepare, prepare to fail' and please, leave the ego out. I've seen transcripts of what you've achieved for Ireland in your time and it ain't pretty. Unless you want to drag up the impeachment scenario again.
Hardly gowing to blow a fuse over that OJ. I do however remeber a time that you were grateful for my gold buying. Shortly after your impeachment. Ah, maybe you weren't. No matter. I'm kind of puzzled that you are so egotistical that you can say that you are proud that you "have given up time in my real life to work on this country" and to make the claim "your whole military unit are all two-clickers and have been for the bulk of their time in Ireland." Surely you're stirring the pot now. No?
Moo has been CP and with Mal helped make Bootcamp what it is today. James is one of the best MoC's we've had. Ethel MoFA and former ICA commander. We have Sweet ffs. He's accomplished more than you without a doubt. I could go on. I'm the least of the group for sure but you are so full of shit this time around my friend. It kind of surprises me tbh.
@Mal Actually, please drag up the impeachment scenario again. I love how people in this country try to use it against me or use it as a victory over the ICA. It amuses me.
@Yddub I've always been grateful for your gold buying and still am, where do I say I am not. All I say is there are different elements to what people have done in Ireland and I value some greater than others. Granted I am wrong when I say "whole" military just like you are wrong when you said the majority of damage..
I'd have to see the numbers.
;-P
was done by gold buyers. At least I admit it. You can attack me all you want but the premise of this article is how Ireland should be in terms of Military Units and so far no one has disagreed with me. Disagree with my character, how I go about things and what I say but put your egos down for a second and realise that this is not about you, you and you but about what Ireland should be doing to correct itself.
You can argue all you want about the Malcontents but the fact of the matter is..
they should not have a part to play in the future of Ireland military wise.
Nah OJ, I don't do screenshots, cause I'm not cheap. You got impeached for stealing gold and money. That's the truth of it and you admitted it yourself at the time.
Oj, this article is 90% attack dog on The Malcontents and 10% recycled stuff from my initiatives. When you have an original idea in your head come back to us.
@Malbekh Awwwwwh thank you so much for proving your ignorance. I was impeached because Irishbhoy1967 was made my Minister of Defense. Ask anyone in your Military Unit and they will tell you if you don't believe me. This is great. Yddub could maybe even tell you the truth?
>implying your idea was original
>implying you didn't take it from another country
>implying I attacked anyone
I have no problem with the Malcontents as a division within the Irish Army or anything or the sort. Nor do..
I have a problem with the people in the your Military Unit or you. Even after your sudden outburst of uncontrolled anger.
@Yddub Also, need I remind you that it was the ICA that brought Fritzhill and RalphKline to eIreland. The Malcontents didn't bring you, moo or James to Ireland.
I am actually in the Malcontents because I was so disillusioned with what ICA had become. As for Fritz and Ralph I think you can thank eCanada as well for that.
You're right about impeachment though. It was because IBhoy was named MoD and I'm one of the people that thought it would be a good idea. I was right. Congress was wrong.
But honestly, are you surprised by the response from Malcontents? I know you well enough that you had to see this "debate?" coming.
For the naysayers - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/get-a-grip-1566624/1/20
I'm not surprised by the Malcontents at all. I'm surprised by each individual members except AC, Mirek and James. I knew what they would input before I published. This treatment is something that the rest of Ireland can learn from. Don't blame a whole MU for a few peoples comments.
I'm disappointed with Malbekh and You but I knew there would be a backlash I'm just surprised at how outrageously aggressive..
and over the top you both would get.
Why shouldn't the Malcontents have any say in the future of Irelands military? If you agree that all all MU's should be part of a united IA then by definition they would be a part of that future.
And saying that the Malcontents didn't bring anyone to Ireland like the ICA did is not a fair comparison. The ICA has been around for years. The Malcontents for a short time. Wait until we have been around for a while before making that type of comparison.
The article is right stop giving supplies out to everyone, the government should only support the IA and Bootcamp.
New players should always be advised to go through Bootcamp then into the IA, unless they wish to do otherwise. IA should as its the only national MU be always recommended to new players, have everyone or most in IA and then others in the other 1 or 2 MU's i.e ICA or Libertad and Ireland becomes miles more efficient than having everyone scattered about.
OJ proved himself reliable, dedicated, and trustworthy to me over the past year.
That needed to be said.
Thinking that restricting distribution access will increase our national influence is daft.
That also needed to be said
And there is no way the Malcontents are two clickers. I was MoC for 5 months and am working there again. I have held other posts in the Cabinet and the IDF and IA and party president a couple of times. My accomplishments are nothing in comparison to what some of the other Malcontents have done. I still look to them as what someone can do for Ireland.
I cant see why we couldn't incorporate other MU's within the IA, they use their own custom avy, the leaders of the MU be captain and commanders in the reg that they are in within the IA. They still have a say with in the IA, as they are within the IA the supplies are there and Ireland as a result is miles better as a fighting force.
Tbh we went through a harder task when the IA first started than we will have to know so I know this can be done.
"Why shouldn't the Malcontents have any say in the future of Irelands military? If you agree that all all MU's should be part of a united IA then by definition they would be a part of that future." Agreed. I meant as an individual Military Unit. Apologies.
I am not comparing the ICA to the Malcontents. I was merely replying to what Yddub has said about the Tanks in Malcontents compared to the Tanks in the ICA. There was a difference. Another thing I am going to get bashed for but f*** it..
the MoC, MoE or MoImm aren't particularly challenging or positions you need to be active to run. An article every three days and an initiative which has been around for 4 years is all that is needed to run that ministry.
Lol at all this rage, come on guys its just barely been over a month since the last major sh*tstorm in eIreland aye
"I'm disappointed with Malbekh and You but I knew there would be a backlash I'm just surprised at how outrageously aggressive."
Oh, please. Now I'm sure you're having a laugh.
I have seen a few of these type articles in the past. Funny thing is there is usually a bunch of comments backing the authors point of view from his friends, I only see OJ comments on this one.
You know your MU is doing good when haters put up articles being critical of it.
"I'm surprised by each individual members except AC, Mirek and James. I knew what they would input before I published. "
...You knew I was going to bring Eamonn Dunphy into the conversation?
A witch!
Right, I think it's at this point that people start losing the will to live.
On with the show
@Moo U blind brah?
"We can be independent of the state if we want unlike everyone else."
"everyone else"?
I think I take offense to that.
Don't say everyone depends on state funding, because you know that's not true.
He also knew I was going to put egov links into my comment,James. I say we should burn him for this witchcraft
Also ''Over the last week or so you have basically been talking as if this MU is the saviour that Ireland needs..... ''
The irony in this is unbearable
"Libertad should be capable to finance themselves..." , always was and still is xdxd