Indo breaches NAP - must cough up 2000 gold to Australia
Cottus Arci
So, WA has fallen - and it took a minimum of 3,102 gold to do so (1,551 fights over 12). Of course this number would higher, considering many of the players who tanked also tanked in the Greece/Turkey war.
Doing some hard analysis of the battle stats has uncovered a dirty little plan (yes, ANOTHER dirty plan, along with the Brazilians making articles posing as official Aus Govt orgs and attempting to manipulate our monetary market - both of which will a bit failworthy) where many Indonesian tanks are now miraculously Brazilian citizens!.
Just take a look here and here, all the Citizenship requests approved by Brazilian Senators;
Alex Candido
Cavalcanti
fiquei duro
Suriat
So far, Brazil's group of Indo expats include;
Ond3L
Strength: 25.378
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 20,528
Indonesian Strength Rank: 4th
flik_kenni
Strength: 25.748
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 20,376
Indonesian Strength Rank: 2nd
Elle Dinar Andari
Strength: 24.62
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 19,731
Indonesian Strength Rank: 11th
Kudus
Strength: 24.408
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 19,388
Indonesian Strength Rank: 15th
hape
Strength: 22.718
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 18,491
Indonesian Strength Rank: 45th
ncx300a1
Strength: 21.22
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 17,532
Indonesian Strength Rank: 90th
math40masterkedua
Strength: 19.548
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 16,790
blu3_fantasy
Strength: 21.518
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 15,680
Indonesian Strength Rank: 84th
Theo_kodok
Strength: 21.398
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: 15,600
Indonesian Strength Rank: 88th
Don Agung
Strength: 23.982
Rank: Field Marshall
Damage in WA: didn't fight
Indonesian Strength Rank: 21st
That's a Total Damage of
164,116
So... does that mean these Indonesian expats are the very reason we lost?
YES
Well done Brazil - all that bending over for Indonesia has finally paid off! Or has it?
Let me guess, if you are successful in taking NT or SA, I can almost guarantee Indonesia will retake WA after the NAP has expired - which brings me to...
So is this a breach of the NAP?
Well - the very fact that many of Indonesia's strongest soldiers have defected to Brazil shows they are trying to hide the fact Indonesian's basically won the war for WA.
2.1.3 If at the time of signing Indonesia holds an Australian region as listed below, they will immediately support financially and through the provision of troops the return of this region by Resistance War.
Oh, just beautiful isn't it. Indonesia don't have to do shit thanks to this clause.
Or do they?
"Indonesia or her military will not attack, or support the attack of the original regions of Australia as listed below.
I'd assume the 2nd, 4th and 11th strongest soldiers fighting for Brazil and putting down over 160k damage (to be a fair assumption that Indonesia is definitely aware and indeed responsible for this cunning plan.
Of course, they will play dumb and say these guys are extremists. Well, if they are, then perhaps Indonesia can write a new treaty to show they actually stand by this NAP, that ensures that Indonesia will break ties with any ally of Indonesia (ie Brazil) that's assist them with financial aid for attacking us?
It's plain and simple. If we have a NAP with Indonesia, then Indonesia can't sit back and let her allies attack us, and send 100's of GOLD to Indonesian tanks.
More dirty tactics. And let me guess, it's once again Spain's fault... am I right Brazil/Indonesia?
Pissed off.
Cottus Arci.
Comments
Make eIndo pay.
Well put Cottus. I think we are all extrememly pissed off by this, and we'll be even more pissed of if the admin's declare the NAP invalid, just like they did with the brazil/south africa contract. Time to wait and see what BS happens next i spose.
They got Brazilian citizenship.....
HUH....
LOOK....LOOK....LOOKK
They Brazilian Citizen....
are u cant read?
Hate Brazil. Just wait for eRetar- I mean eBrazilians to give you some lovin'...
Hmm. Those look like Indo tanks.
we wouldnt call on admins to make them pay the fine, we would rely on Indonesia's HONOUR, something they preach so much amount
The admins won't enforce this contract, its too open. And a new treaty wont be official.
Besides, even if Indonesia is 'dishonoured' by this, they hardly will care.
We will rise above it...
well that 2000g will go straight to the war effort 🙂 thanks eIndo, quite dissapointed, I thought you guys had honour...
How long do you guys reckon brazil will hold onto WA and/or any other regions they'll conquer? ....And no, I don't want an opinion from a Brazillian, but I'm gonna get it anyway...
why would they be in Brazil and not have a job or be in a political party of they mean to stay in Brazil?
go Brasil!
Didn't someone say something about "We were the greatest empire because we were the greatest cheaters"?
eIndo has no honor, neither do the imperialist eBrazilians.
Weak Indonesia. I've come to expect better
eAustralia may eat led if all we care.. 😛
can we stop playing NAP now? 🙂
no contract is valid until all congress memeber sing it .
dirty? I've seen worse from you
lol
I wonder what the point of treaties are? It seems only the USA chooses to honor them.
Wow, I'm so sad Indo, you lost all your best tanks, defecting to Brazil. *cries*
😕
The NAP still stands BTW.
please whine more, its amusing
wait ...
they maybe indonesian before
but when i said dont involved with that war, the apply new citizenship
so ...
when they are brazilian i cant order they not involved WA war, they are brazilian now. they fight for their country ....
Its an act of individuals..however, seeing your National goal, it seems that you are the one who are being aggressive towards eIndonesian territories...
@Aeros: did eUSA pays 20k gold to ePortugal for breaching agreement?
@Ryanno2 You mean eSouth African territories right? Their capture or liberation is expressly not covered by the NAP.
Perhaps Pheonix should rename itself... 'Honourless Mongrel Dog' would be a fitting moniker.
why cant we all be friend?
*peace and love brother*
it is valid. No indonesian citizen will lay hand on you.
Not signed, They are eBrazilian citizens, thus are linked to Brazil, it doesn't matter if they were previously eIndo tanks, or still are, as they are not linked to the nation via game mechanics, so your argument is invalid. Unless ofc you can prove that they Directly fought for indo from an eIndo Territory >_>
it's 5k not 20k
are u cant read?
If you cant speak English with proper grammar, dont attempt to criticize others please.
until all congress memeber sing it .
Never heard that rule
when they are brazilian i cant order they not involved WA war, they are brazilian now. they fight for their country ....
Oh yes, because they are moving in and gaining citizenship for a week, while not working or joining a political party. They are such patriots for Brazil.
Nah those tanks really don't like being in eIndo, what with the ridiculous minimum wage and all.
They're effectively Brazilians now so their actions hold no relevance to that of eIndo's as a whole, unless of course, someone wants to claim that its an Indo PTO attempt.
>Oh yes, because they are moving in and gaining citizenship for a week, while not working or joining a political party. They are such patriots for Brazil.
It's not a matter of Patriotism, it is a matter of it was entirely valid, and doesn't violate the contract. If you would like to call that pheonix propaganda, i wonder why i am in new south wales.
If everyone used Cottus's argument, someone would create a multi as Australian, and then declare he/she would help x country against Indonesia :3 is that a breach of a NAP? ROFLMAO
Oh yeah, remember this?
On day 776 own control of the following regions:
* Northern Cape
* Western Cape
*cough* should we also call this breach? :3
@mimihitam
😃...
remember your nation goal from cozza..
We do NOT breach the NAP, why? Because those tanks decided to change their citizenship on their own. I challenge you to name one official order to change their citizenship and fight Australia in their war versus Brazil. You can't? Boo.
And regarding this honor thing, I have seen worse from you. Remember Western Australia? You broke the former deal first.
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Its an act of individuals..however, seeing your National goal, it seems that you are the one who are being aggressive towards eIndonesian territories... (2x)
I don't know whether this can be enforced as a breach of the NAP or not, but I'm definitely of the opinion that Brazil's actions were part of a PEACEgc/PHOENIX plan that was in place prior to the NAP with eIndo.
Can we please stop trusting eIndo now?
just imagine ... just 9 ppl can make 164 K ... indo have 220 FM
Listen Australia ...They are Brazilian tanks..they have gone to brazil whatever reasons may be involved...but they fought as Brazilian and not Indonesians..this is not any breach of contract.
as mimihitam rightly said On day 776 own control of the following regions:
and it is the act of individuals..
* Northern Cape
* Western Cape
this also means a breach of contract
@prettypanda watch your language...
Sigh.
For the record, Australia haven't attacked Northern or Western Cape, and even if they had it wouldn't be a breach of the NAP. Read the damn thing.
They are Brazilian citizen.... There is no point to blame eIndonesia, they are individual not as government....
so this is a chicken say
humm just give me citizenship...
they were illegal... not gov army.. a mercenary....
"Indonesia or her military will not attack, or support the attack of the original regions of Australia as listed below.
Seems to me like indo tanks were sent over, and supported the attack, they are in the military some even have the indo elite unit avatar (at east in their background). Explain how this isnt a violation please.
brasilian please give me citizenship