In defense of the "elite"
MaryamQ
Who’s winning this game anyway?
eRepublik is a game that has no clear path to the big Win, but many paths to small wins. Anyone has the possibility of winning a medal. Nobody stands in your way to a hard worker or super soldier medal except yourself, and with the division system, even relatively new players have the possibility of winning battle hero medals. There is no end-game where a country or alliance wins it all and the game is over, but there are many opportunities to win battles and campaigns, even in small countries, if you choose your friends and your strategies well. In a way, this is good; everybody has a chance to be a winner at least once in a while; however, since there is no ultimate Win, some people decide to start targeting those who have more wins than they do. Is this reasonable? Can everything be equal? Should it be?
A recent meeting of TUP leaders
Who are the “Elite”?
Being a relatively old citizen who has had some degree of success in the game, I have seen a lot of labeling of upper level players as “elite”, and have been on the receiving end of that label myself on a number of occasions. More recently, the game itself encourages this label, as the title of “Elite Citizen” may be won and displayed on your profile after you meet certain goals – something I have not yet accomplished, but expect to fairly soon. Usually, when I see this label applied by one player to another, it is meant in a pejorative sense, and it means that the person doing the labeling feels the “elite” player has some sort of power and/or privilege from which others may feel excluded, and may feel that this is unfair. Let’s look at this, though.
Common myths about “elite” players and parties
Elite players/parties are power hungry. They will do anything to keep others from reaching their level.
It is true that elite players/parties are often careful about who they let into their inner circles; however, it is not impossible to enter if you go about it the right way. As I see it, this is not so much about holding onto power, which actually has become a bit of a burden to many top players. Rather, it springs from a reluctance to see what has been built over months and years destroyed in weeks by those who are either incompetent or malicious. Yes, the game does promise new players they can rise to be CP, and some will, but that does not mean everyone can or should. This is a social game, and it takes a community to succeed at it. If you don’t have the time, interest, or ability to work with that community, you probably shouldn’t expect to lead it.
New players cannot possibly catch up with those who have been around for years.
This depends on what you are talking about. If you are talking about reaching the same level as a super tank in battle, you are probably right, although I can point to many players who are younger than I am and stronger, and I am doing quite well militarily, thank you. Likewise, in media it is difficult to reach the same level as players who started in V1, although there are many newer players who can and do have very successful newspapers solely based on their merit or strategic use of contacts. On the other hand, if you are willing to work your way up and learn how things work, you do have a chance of rising politically, depending on your abilities and the time you are willing to invest. I’ve seen more than one player who was new to the game or new to a country (or both) rise quickly through the political ranks. Just don’t expect it to happen overnight, and do acknowledge that just possibly older players do have something to teach you about how it’s done.
Gold buyers have huge and unfair advantages over everyone else.
Again, this depends on what you are talking about. Do gold buyers have an edge in certain aspects of the game? Of course. This is true, not only in eRepublik, but in many “free” online games. A gold buyer can become stronger and richer more quickly in game, and can afford to tank in battle when a nonpaying player might not. However, there is another aspect to this that a lot of players forget. Many of the gold buyers I know use their own resources to give other players a hand up the ladder, as well, through employing them at good wages and donating part of their own resources – often quietly or anonymously - either individually or through national/MU/party programs so that others have the resources they need to grow and fight. After all, if your cohort group is stronger, that increases your chances of reaching your goals over trying to do it alone.
Elite parties never give other parties a chance, but favor their own candidates for office over all others month after month.
I have been on both sides of this, more than once. The first time I was elected CP, I represented a second party that had the support of the top (and incidentally, I was a relatively young player who had been in the country about 6 months and in politics less than that). When I was in the eUS, I consciously chose a “sixth” party where I knew some people and liked their politics – and incidentally, I did not particularly like the top party. I saw members of that “sixth” party given seats in Congress and government because they had earned the respect of larger parties despite their smaller numbers. Nevertheless, I have yet to see a top party that wasn’t resented by a fair part of the population, simply because they were the top. Top parties have the advantage of looking good to new players and of attracting strong immigrants who have had previous contact with party members, but they are also an easy target. Is it true, though, that they exclude candidates from other parties from becoming CP or members of government? A quick check of the wiki shows that, in the last two years, nearly 50% of the elected Prime Ministers of the eUK have been from parties other than TUP. In eBelgium, 15 have been from parties other than Res Belgica. Often, though not always, these candidates have the support of the top party. In addition, even when a top party CP is elected, many of the ministers come from other parties. A good CP from whatever party will be aware that the government represents all of the people and that the best talent available should be used, regardless of party politics.
tl;dr
Elite players and parties often get a bad rap. Instead of complaining, try joining. You might like it!
Maryam
Comments
Fully agreed with this article!
What happens when the elite are incompetent and need their work destroying?
Other elite with a better plan will take over ...
true.
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Very true.
Voted!
True story. Voted!
Like RL politicians, talking bad about another can get you support of that group of people that feel left out. A tactic like any other. So b*tching about the elite can be a get-the-votes play.
true story in eUK. o/
hmmm... winsdon and BA...
I didn"t know MariamQ that you are such a good journalist !!.I am overwhelmed by your article and totally agreee with you.Voted,subed.Greetings from Alex.
ctrl + D.
in case if BA and wisdon make a lot of noise, this article can shut them up.
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Great Article \o/
The greatest irony is those who accuse others of being oldfag elitists are also oldfag elitist themselves. But naturally, the person accusing the others consider themselves "the right sort of elitist".
Oh, and if you haven't been around long enough to qualify as an oldfag elitist, you are probably the multi of an oldfag elitist...
Mr Knee is actually only the third player in this game, the rest are all Keers and Don
so who are you Butjam? Keers, Don or Mr Knee ?
Whichever one looks best in a dress
So Keers then - unless Dapper's transphobic comments about Invalidation's crossplay persona is a bluff....
how do you know that i am keers's multi!?
Elite player or elite is not the same as an elitist. Spewing divisive garbage and manipulating with herd mentality and group thinking is the prime weapon of the latter. I've never seen you do that.
It's a question of defintion.
If you define 'elite' as old and wealthy, the PCP could not possibly be anti-elitist, because we are one of the oldest parties in the eUK, full of old players, many of whom own many factories. (Of course, those factories have many uses, mostly for the workers' benefit.)
On the other hand, if you define the 'elite' as a group of players - young and old - who want to overcome democracy and replace it with oligarchy. It's not about your age or wealth, but what you do with it. Hence the PCP remains anti-elite: but also the party of the old player who finds the economic and military status quo unsatisfactory; the player of those with money but don't know why we need it...
BTW, very good article, V+s.
I definitely agree with this article.
About four months ago, I decided I would like to campaign for CP. I also knew I didn't have the knowledge to do a good job, so I got more involved in party politics and serving in the administration. It didn't take a long time for me to realize that I'd rather go pound my head on a wall than be the CP, as there would be much less of a headache. Which is part of why you are saying some positions stay with a limited number of players. They don't have qualified replacements.
I'm glad for you that you realized that pounding your head on a wall would be the best office. If only I realized this earlier 😁
well said.
VOTED (but next time insert my name here(you know i like it) )
Very good article.
Very nice indeed.
There is nothing to add as you have said all that is needed to address this matter.
But surely if the 'Elite' are in control of the forums and who has access. They ultimately will be choosing the candidate that they want without the majority who don't have access having their say.
You lacking access was probably a mishap rather than any malicious move.
DC being denied access to TUP forums is only because of both sides' major issues with each other, from the whole mwc episode.
Many players that are not DC have also been denied access.
fm2008, you spoke out against those that run the forum and the party. That is why you have had your access cut. You need to toe the line and do as they say.
Wayne: can you give me some examples? I'm gonna look into this.
nice read o/
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Elite and insanity go hand in hand 😛 lol
Great article MQ 😘*
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wise words from a wise lady 🙂
A very good article indeed!
Great read and very true. If anything the Political module is the easiest to catch up with old players in, If you have the skill and put the time in.
A point well explored, and one I may pick up on later. There are 3 key notions we should keep in mind and debate further,
1.Elite citizen is an "ingame mechanic" that is as irrelevant as all of the other cheap badges, and nothing more than the wigs attempting to create gold buying.
2. Elite as a notion, is simply a way of defining someone that is better than something else. An elite group of footballers would be Charlton, Moore, perhaps Best and at a stretch, Pele. No bad thing.
3. Elite citizens are, unfortunately, frequently self appointed. A group of people who decide that for nefarious and self-perpetuating reasons they will take some form of ownership or power, manipulating systems and societies to maintain their control and "status"....at all costs. They will demean and destroy anything that attempts to encroach upon their self-proclaimed hallowed turf.
The third group exist, without question. The third group should be exposed and deposed.
Great article. Love the debate.
Great read totally not what I expected when I read the title.
I have to use myself as an example I've only played 8/9 weeks and already been made up to VP of the PCP and a PCP congressman and I've just won the primary for PP election this term so it looks like I'll become PP. I've also been given a deputy position in the UK cabinet ad dMoFA.
Because of all of this I've been accused of being a multi or a returning old player when neither is true. All I had to do was talk in the party feed and irc channel and I got to know most of the parties more vocal and influential members and because I showed a keenness to learn they took me under there wing and helped me learn. I owe my achievements to date to PCP members like Ayame Crocodile, Teppishc, Sam010, Zaphod, Sir Rex Fleddington and Yossi who took some of their own time to teach me and learn.
I can't speak for other parties but in the PCP there just doesn't seem to be an exclusive inner circle anyone who wants to learn and progress is offered every opportunity.
Voted, great read.
Your sensible response is like a breath of fresh air in the current environment.