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Immigration & The Feud

Day 1,916, 16:21 Published in Ireland Canada by Brian Boru


Immigration Conflict
The controversy regarding immigration measures by has come to a head with a large argument in the Dáíl about current immigration policy, particularly surrounding RL Croatian citizens and friends of the former core membership of the Saoirse Party (now merged into Eire Aonair).

The debate has intensified after a eCroatian citizen, little Victoria, was refused immediate entry into eIreland, as one of her referrers claimed she had taken part in illegal political actions in eCroatia. This immediately caused a storm, with friends of the applicant complaining that the refusal was unfair. Claims of discrimination are being thrown around.

The Government's position has been that they have every right to refuse a person when sources provided say that a citizen-applicant is of doubtful character. The citizen seems to have been rejected by the Committee, but has been let in regardless.



Political Intervention:
The decision to reject little Victoria's application has lead to calls to open up immigration, as well as accusations of xenophobia. Claiming that eIreland will never be a big country unless we open our borders, Shield 72's article attacks unnamed players for propagandising about RL Croatians.



Opinion:
This controversy has two sides, impossible to separate from one another.

On one hand, you have government immigration policy, which MUST be designed to provide maximum security to the country, with growth being a secondary objective that has to be achieved within the context of security. eIreland being a big country with our sovereignty and self-determination destroyed would be pointless.

On the other hand, you have this feud. A massive fight between the kunts and the old Saoirse core, with the former being mostly RL Irish and the latter being mostly RL Croatian. Both sides have shown utter contempt for both the laws of eRepublik and the state of our democracy. Regardless of who has done the most damage, both are dangers.

The link between these two issues is simple. When either side vouches for a citizen applicant, our security is at risk. It doesn't matter what nationality someone is, if they are coming to eIreland to join one side or the other, they are a threat to national security. They would help in perpetuating conflict, that has brought eIreland to her knees in the past, and will undoubtedly do so again in future.

Ultimately, immigration shouldn't be in the hands of congresspeople. The game's citizenship system is near useless, and has been from its introduction. Allowing congresspeople the absolute power to increase their own political chances is idiotic.

Either way, the Government must try to restrain civil conflicts, because no one has the right to hold Ireland hostage on the basis of a personal vendetta.

 

Comments

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Day 1,916, 16:25

So glad to see we not the only ones pointlessly arguing about such tripe... Good luck my Irish breadbins, once you figure it out let your good ol' friends in blightly know the answer...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,916, 16:38

Boru....if i read this article will i see vote results from last referendum you tried to scam?

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,916, 17:43

"referendum you tried to scam" <- You mean the referendum where you claimed I was pro-CoT, and then the result came out anti-CoT, and I upheld it, and then you changed your line saying I was too afraid to scam a referendum but that I made it look much closer than it was?

Again Viktor, look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_ballot

Democracy motherfucker.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,916, 17:50

i scared you from falsing votes in cot favour.
you and that cryfag were only one counting votes and both of you are less trustworthy then a snake.
So dont sell me that crap about democracy.
You are hiding real vote results to hide you are a liar.
Prove me wrong and show real datas...

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 11:25

I am less trustworthy than a snake for what reason? Viktor, you don't even know me

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 11:36

And Viktor, you don't scare me. You have the pseudo-Christian roleplaying vote, you're neurotic, and won't go away.

Like a mosquito that won't go away, you buzz around the media making no meaningful contributions at all.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 13:01

Your love for kunts and their crimes makes you a snake.
You refusing to show voting results makes you a snake.
Only you and that cryfag,also kunt lover being only vote counters makes you a snake.

Yeah i am irrelevant mosquito....i poked your ICA to dust, kicked your IBhoy out of ireland, silenced bullies....and yes leading your beloved kunts out of sin as their PP.
I love being irrelevant....

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 13:02

And yes i did scared you....we both know your plan was to frame votes in CoT favour.....i scared the shit out of you just like i scared IBhoy out of ireland...

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 15:05

Viktor, you are literally an irrelevence lol

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 16:51

Telling me i am irrelevant a hundred times like you did...actually makes me very relevant.
If i am irrelevant...ignore me then...

irishbhoy1967
irishbhoy1967 Day 1,916, 22:12

fool

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Day 1,916, 16:40

Do you want me to come over and save you from the Croats?

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,916, 17:41

The Croats, the kunts, the two-clickers and the gobshites, please do Wayne.

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Day 1,918, 05:21

Two clickers are the back bone of any nation, gobshites are good entertainment, Croats and kunts I can do...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,916, 18:02

By the way about little victiria case....its now proven elite c lied about she being accused for illegal activities.
and having conway in immigration is even more retarded considering he still didnt return 200000 iep he stole from state funds.

Elite C
Elite C Day 1,917, 08:55

I didn't lie, and the only thing people proved was how cruel they are when people they want in are told no.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 09:11

You didn't lie elite?
Can you tell us again who told you little victoria has been involved in illegal activities?
Coz a person you mentioned denied that in full.

Maybe you should openly demanding golds for cz like your friends kunts like to do....
Ask Conway he is one of them...

Elite C
Elite C Day 1,917, 09:12

naturally when heckled, someone is going to retract what they have said

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 09:21

Do you have a screenshot of his statement?
Please show as a proof that referer accused little victoria and we can end this for good...

Raven Anarcho
Raven Anarcho Day 1,916, 18:46

ah... gotta love this place. Good article, voted.

Gabriel Peddie
Gabriel Peddie Day 1,916, 21:43

Boru up to his old tricks eh?

Ian E CoIeman
Ian E CoIeman Day 1,916, 22:26

I really like that Hibernian graphic.

Anywho, the little Victoria case was overturned and approve by MoI as far as I can tell. It sounds to me like she just wanted to leave Croatia, and she had some friends here in eIreland. There's no question that there's internal political tension or that one group is predominantly Croatian. The fact is that we just aren't dealing with a political take over of Ireland, and that's an important point to fully absorb.

The only way that these issues will come to an end is through gestures of solidarity and good will. In terms of immigration, I think that this has brought to light some legitimate issues that stand apart from this particular incident. We've had multiple stories of immigrants getting into trouble over bad references from questionable sources. To be honest it's a hell of a lot more suspicious if no one has anything bad to say about you.

Paddy OBrien
Paddy OBrien Day 1,917, 05:45

To get any kind of good will and solidarity, some folks are going to have to let go of the back stabbing, reputation crushing, lack of interest in the laws, and arguing over who screwed who's goat 200 years ago. Some civil discourse within our political parties would be a huge help to our enation.

I understand that there are folks here who have been here pretty much since eIreland was founded, but there are a lot of us who weren't. Rather than seeing constant accusations flung around about events and activities we have no clue about, how about looking forward to where we can go. Always looking behind means you tend to walk off any cliff in front of you.

Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 13:09

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Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 11:33

I have no intention of showing solidarity with people who throw tantrums, then go fuck with the politics of the country with their friends.

They keep going on about how bad the kunts are, as if we're ignorant and as if they are the saviours of the country for getting into a civil war with them. Such arrogance is breathtaking, and I speak as probably one of the most arrogant players to grace this country, such statements are breathtakingly impressive.

Have no doubt, it is a takeover, but it isn't for political reasons, it's down to a vendetta. The kunts apologised for their crimes, the ex-Saoirse core should apologise for theirs: Breaching the peace, voter fraud, and bringing our national politics into further disrepute.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 13:06

What apology from Kunts you talk about Boru?
Do you have a link of that article and did they returned the money they stole?
Does latest OJ's scam is what you call an apology?

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 15:04

Yes, I will comment.

OJ doing shit does not make the Saoirse crew any less guilty.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 16:56

OJ is member of Kunts.
Padraig trying to sell cz pass to argentinian.....
Padraig is also of Kunts.
Conway taking part in pathetic lie about little victoria.
Conway is also of Kunts.
All irish scammers and thiefs are in Kunts and you Boru are defending them....
Until they return money they scam and stole....they stay as parasites of ireland.

I am trying to save them but redemption can not be done without honest regrets.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 19:57

PTOing parties, using multis, ignoring immigration laws designed to protect the country, using foreign governmental contacts for personal political gain, continuing a civil conflict in a time of great diplomatic tension.

These crimes are no less dangerous, in fact, one could consider them more dangerous than petty scamming and thievery, but they represent far more long term threats to the country. Money can be regained more easily than the social contract.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,918, 07:57

STO is not a PTO.....Spiritual take over of well known scammers, thiefs and PTOer's is a good thing.
STO is an act of love toward those wretched souls.

Ignoring immigration laws?
A fking immigration commitee broke its own rules when they LIED to JUSTIFY why they reject croatian for getting irish cz.


Boru you defending something you can't defend only makes you look silly.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,918, 15:21

There seems no indication that they lied, only that the referrer went back on his word, most likely under pressure.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,918, 15:42

No Boru....only way to contact a referer and being sure you talk to a right person is through PM.
That means they can make a screenshot.

Conway is kunts..elite c is kunts lover.... so its most likely commitee lied.

Screenshot of referer statement could prove commitee right.
And considering after all this days they didn't show it its MOST LIKELY commitee LIED...

MUFC992
MUFC992 Day 1,917, 03:02

I don't even want to comment on this article...

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Day 1,917, 05:05

The case of Victoria is unfortunate but, right now, when Croatians have organised themselves into a group that is repeatedly PTO'ing an Irish party we cannot allow anymore in. That isn't indiscriminate, when this MUFC/Croatians vs PP/Marcus thing passes in a few months I see no issue with letting people of RL Croatian nationality back into the country once they pass the background check.

MUFC992
MUFC992 Day 1,917, 09:48

We never grouped ourselves. That's a fact.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,917, 11:45

You're all mates, you all act pretty much with purpose: To screw with the kunts. A noble cause to you perhaps, but one eIreland can do without.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 13:11

What ireland can without are kunts screwing with this country.....

MUFC992
MUFC992 Day 1,917, 13:22

You think eIreland could without that? What would happen? Kunts would get on power and rob country again. Then you'd be sorry you haven't had someone to cut them out.

There's only one difference between us, one side is working for better Ireland, without thiefs and scammers ( OJ recently robbed two guys ), and the other side is led by them.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,917, 16:06

funny how for what nearly a year you had no problems with thiefs, funny how only recently you act like you care.

you say you and those who pto irish parties do nothing but try to better ireland, thats complete bull. why cause ireland to divide and stop progressing when you pto parties...that proves you are as bad as those you use to be vocal supporters of but now bitch about.

MUFC992
MUFC992 Day 1,917, 16:08

I have problems with all thiefs who robbed eIreland since I'm here. I don't know what happened here in past and honestly I don't care.

But I do know that u took over a milion IEP from your own country, so stop with moralising cuz ur the last one who should do that.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,917, 16:40

MUFC you know about all the lads thefts so dont act all noob when it suits you then know all our history when you want, to act like you never knew about past thefts proves how childish you are.

Evertything is true and honest and im sure people can see that even if they dont like me, its a game so tbh I couldnt care.

MUFC992
MUFC992 Day 1,917, 16:42

Now re-read my previous comment please.

MR. PADRAIG PEARSE
MR. PADRAIG PEARSE Day 1,917, 06:19

"On the other hand, you have this feud. A massive fight between the kunts and the old Saoirse core, with the former being mostly RL Irish and the latter being mostly RL Croatian. Both sides have shown utter contempt for both the laws of eRepublik and the state of our democracy. Regardless of who has done the most damage, both are dangers."

We havnt broken any laws of erepublik or threatened the state of our democracy, on the other hand the croats have done both

Domagojvu II
Domagojvu II Day 1,917, 10:44

and what about trying to sell CS to argentinians

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,917, 16:09

he didnt give cs to anyone so your point is mut dom

Liam Tatlock
Liam Tatlock Day 1,917, 08:33

BB : I let her in because a member of the Immigration Committee asked her to be allowed in in Congress after the retraction from her reference..

Elite C
Elite C Day 1,917, 09:14

That was after the committee no longer had a reason to refuse her

Liam Tatlock
Liam Tatlock Day 1,917, 09:19

I know.

Viktor Kurgan Day 1,917, 09:29

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