Ideas on Interest Loans
Tom Cauchon
Ideas on Interest Loans
I'm sure someone had proposed this idea before, but please humor me for a short moment.
I just upgraded my Climbing Center to Q3 yesterday with Plato’s “generous” upgrade sale, and I found myself staring at the small number 35 written in my gold column. I quickly clicked back to my training grounds, hoping to see a number smaller than the 55 gold required to upgrade my training grounds to Q4. I, of course, was sadly confronted with the idea that I somehow needed to get together 20 gold before the sale ended.
I had seen several members of my MU post on the shout wall asking for small donations of 5, 6 or 7 gold to upgrade their training centers with a genuine offer of paying back the gold immediately via the increased opportunity for SS medals. In my heart, I felt that 20 gold was too much to ask other members of my MU to donate to me. (That’s ok though, I’m in this game for the long run). I decided I would simply gather more gold and save up for the next sale.
But what if there were ways that lower level players could take out massive loans from upper-level players in an attempt to upgrade all or most of their training grounds during sales? Let’s examine a mid-level D1 player like myself, with mediocre strength and perhaps too many experience points. (I’ve only recently learned the ways of Erepublik strength training with the help of SHIELD).
Currently I have:
Training Grounds (Weights Room): Q4
Climbing Center: Q3
Shooting Range: Q1
Special Forces Center: Q1
At this very moment during the sale it would require exactly 242 gold for me to finish upgrading all of my training centers. 242 gold is about the equivalent of 48.4 SS medals, so 49 medals if we round up.
Given the fact that after someone gave me 242 gold I would be getting 90 (+1/day, +5 every 5 days) strength a day, it would take me approximately me approximately 132 days to obtain enough gold to pay back the loan. I’ll subtract 6 days given that I would use important DoI programs like Stack the Wall and BU2SU.
Ok, so we’re sitting with this number of 126 days to pay back a 242 gold loan, about 4 months of time.
But, I digress, because why would any high-ranking player do this? The risk is far too high to commit such vast sums of gold to a low-level player that has a 95% chance of quitting the game within 30 days or pulling an RGR and simply never paying back the gold.
Therefore, if there was a way to stack on an interest rate (for instance, lets say a flat rate of 5😵
the high level players could gain gold through interest while increasing the strength of US citizens, a double investment in both an individual and the country.
But, once again, there is no way to enforce a person to pay back a loan in an eWorld. This seemed like a great idea until I thought more thoroughly about this.
If only Plato would stop his mad greed for credit card numbers maybe, just maybe, he would add a feature of this game that would allow players to take interest loans out from one another with a risk of suspension or banning if the loan is not paid back in a certain amount of time.
If America adopted a policy like this perhaps we would have many more high strength, low XP citizens. But then again, perhaps we would be full of greedy hoarders.
I think it’s an interesting idea, but not yet practical.
Thanks for the read,
TC
***I am not writing this article to ask for gold! Don’t think that! I am just writing down my thoughts and musings.***
Comments
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Agree with you, have the same problem to upgrade my training grounds
There is only a problem with that, if you train with all q4 TG an the training contract it would cost you 6.53 gold/month (31.02 without the contract) so you shouldn't get gold from SS
http://tools.narrenturm.eu/trainingCalculator.php
True. I forgot to consider that. Perhaps it could be made up in other ways, such as BH or FF or TP. That would obviously take much longer though. Thanks for pointing that out.
problem here, is we have a thousand players a month dieing. maybe more. so the chance the person will be alive to pay it back is very little!
You're right, it's a shame that this is the case!
In game you can downgrade companies and TC, if Plato had a system set up where if loans were not paid back this automatically happened and that money was sent back to the lender there would be no risk. Folks could only borrow up to the value of their downgraded buildings...
Agreed. There's no way to hold a player accountable if they have no gold left to give. Perhaps a set of multiple smaller loans would solve this problem, spaced over time?
I always do my best to loan out gold to others for TG upgrades (most I lent out yesterday to one player was 14, around 30 in total).
The problem with large sums of gold is a player can only receive 10 gold a day from MM or donations. So if a sale is only 48 hrs long, that player can only acquire 20 gold, regardless of the source.
Ha, welcome to the line man.
Months ago, I started a company called Lion Loans to test this theory, but I only used USD, not Gold, as I didn't have a good safety net with Gold in case it failed.
The end result was 25 loans being repayed out of 31. Approximately an 80% return rate, and I still turned a profit. Unfortunately, in order to run a successful loaning business, you need a large abundance of loans to have multiple out at once, but I only had enough for 4 at once.
It's a great theory, and from my experiences enough people have the honor and respect to repay. But you need investors too. I've tried getting the eUS government to help me out, but they said (months ago, unsure of what president we were under at the time) that it was too much of a risk.
I've begged and pleaded with Plato and eRep staff to implement it, but I've gotten nowhere as far as I know.
It's a great concept, but hard to execute to its fullest.
It doesn't make sense that the eUS government wouldn't support such a thing. Maybe I can make some more noise somewhere up the Fed Party chain at some point. Elite citizens could recommend younger players for these loans and then eGov could give the loans out to help them with training grounds upgrades with an interest return rate. It would be a double investment (1. by gaining investment in actual gold and 2. by training younger players quickly so they can be high strength/low xp citizens)
I never really got an explanation beyond what I said, how it was unreliable.
If I actually became part of the game again, I could probably make noise too, but I've been "quitting" eRep for quite some time now, so I haven't bothered going back into meta shit.
Things like banks have been tried, and unfortunately failed.
But keep the ideas coming! Any activity and thought is the right track to be on!
I do believe I'm one of the few who ran a "successful" business, I just stopped operating it because I quit at the time lol. Now I can't get it back since I have so little USD now lol
Well,True.
I just joined recently and Needed gold for Upgrading Training Grounds.
Still wasn't enough gold to upgrade for me.