I'm Pissed
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by Mattoze5
Hello all,
I'm sorry I had to write this article, but I am compelled;
Let me give you a synopsis of what happened to the CvP yesterday: Many of you out there heard about the Shermain-Ligtreb issue. Well apparently, after a few incidences of back and forth, largely spammed articles, a damper was pushed onto two important CvP races: SGGHays run in New Mexico, and obviously Shermain's run in DC. I obviously can't speak for Shermain after such a largely negative article against Ligtreb which I do not support at all, but however I am very disappointed at the many responses that came of this issue and how it affected the CvP races on a whole. I can no longer trust the integrity of the public’s ability to run fairly in elections. I realize a lot of this has to do with the dregs of politics and the fear of Ajay Bruno returning, but that is no reason to treat the entire CvP the way it was yesterday. Yes, I agree Shermain was asking for this kind of trouble with the disgraceful comments in his article, but I think a lot of it was a) a mistake and b) because he didn’t know any better. Well he was corrected and he lost the election: okay, understandable. That’s not what really pisses me off.
What is very disturbing to me is that this somehow caused people to blame the entire CvP, causing many people to snipe our races and accuse our newer players of being Ajay. SGGHays being one of them, was beaten in the election by 4 votes. Our party president, Desertfalcon, who was blamed for indecision (which was sadly probably the best decision of all), was also dropped from winning the election by 2 votes. Let me tell you that after playing this game for nearly a year, I’ve come to know many people in this game, and it pains me greatly to know that they behaved in this way.
I’m beginning to get tired of people, not just outside but also in our party, blaming everyone new in the CvP of being Ajay just because they are ignorant or outspoken. This has got to stop. We need to realize that Ajay will never be as powerful as he once was; he can’t, he’s supposed to be banned from the game. It’s all for the lulz now.
To all the USWP out there: I know better than to think that the few people in your party who started this battle talk are representing a consensus for all of you. So with that being said I hope we can find ways to work things out between us so that stuff like this doesn’t keep happening, for eRepublik’s sake. As for USWP leadership and our members, please don’t go poaching them 😉
I’m sure your already going to get a lot of our less loyal members coming over, but don’t keep kicking us down, we’re getting tired of fighting all the time.
All those loyal CvP members, young and old, reading this, thank you for staying with us in all these hard times, for continuing to do your part to help us through these battles, and continuing to be optimistic: You mean a lot to me, you’re the reason I will always be a CvP member, and I hope I’ll get to know some of you better in the future. It’s because of you that I hope to return to epolitics sometime in the future 😃
Now for the reason why I’m really pisse😛
Those CvP members who decided to jump on the “Let’s blame the CvP” bandwagon, I hate having to tell you how disappointed I am (I’m pissed). Let this be clear, I plan on sticking together with the rest of the CvP and continuing to support them in good times and in bad, not just when they have the conditions I feel are acceptable or in my favor (such as the person who is Party President or how many congress members we have.) We need to stick up for each other and help correct those who make terrible and sometimes heinous mistakes, not berate them; otherwise we are going to continue falling apart at every election. If we stick together and continue doing our jobs, things will get better for the Conservative Party. And for those of us staying, that is exactly what we will accomplish; just as we always have 😉
God Bless the Conservative Party,
God Bless America,
Mattoze5
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I sent a message to Desertfalcon asking him to address the situation with Shermain the day before the election. The article was never pulled and no ranking or veteran member of the CvP ever denounced it publicly. Shermain was in your IRC chat yesterday and was greeted with open arms. Do not act surprised that I and the rest of the USWP leadership responded to the lies that were being spread. This could have been resolved by denouncing the attack article, having it pulled and then not moving the voters that Ardez moved for Shermain in DC.
Matt, I never thought Shermain represented the CvP, I knew he was a rogue. I just wished some of your leaders would've said something publicly about his smear campaign.
As for poaching your members, the USWP has not actively tried to do that -- they're coming to us. Sorry.
Glad to see you're still around, even if you're pissed.
Just to echo the above, sgghays was also the one in #cvp3 accusing Jude Connors (AAP) of being Ajay. So some of your younger (and coincidentally more ignorant) players are not just turning on the CvP but on people who have never done anything to them.
I appreciate your anger at having members poached. This happened to me when I was AAP PP (for 3 months) but it's part of the game and I guarantee you that we are not poaching any of your members purposefully. If you are losing members to us, it's because they wish to join us.
Case in point: Dodgercatcher joined without anyone (seriously... as opposed to jokingly) trying to convince him to join.
I don't know what you were seeing on IRC yesterday Jasper, but he was certainly not greeted with open arms. I thought we were downright mean to him last night. We flat out told him that we would not be sending him any support. Most of the calling out of him by party members happened in private via ingame message or IRC PM as no one other DesertFalcon can speak for the CvP in an official statement.
Right. It seems a little strange for a party that wishes to gain more popularity with the voters to then blame those voters for reacting to what they perceive as inherent negatives with the CvP.
I am not sure I would ever vote for someone, or a party that contains said someone, who said this:
"I can no longer trust the integrity of the public’s ability to run fairly in elections. I realize a lot of this has to do with the dregs of politics and the fear of Ajay Bruno returning, but that is no reason to treat the entire CvP the way it was yesterday."
You guys have a perception problem. It is not the job of the electorate to simply forget this, it is up to the party to give the electorate something for which they might want to vote.
Dirty tactics have consequences whether you approved of them or not. What Shermain tried to pull on Ligtreb was inexcusable and harmful to the country.
Figure out who your candidates are better before you run them.
Very sad election.
Maybe you shouldn't have endorsed him in the first place.
PS, Matt, quitting the Conservative Party is always an option:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/the-sunshine-patriot-200452/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/th[..]452/1
I am rather new to the game. maybe a little over a week. I also have recently joined the conservative party and even started my own news paper, the California Tribute. I don't know who Ajay is or even what he did. What I do know that to be suspicious over every new person that joins the party is going to help the cause of those who have come together as one and make the party. Second, we all have different opinions both inside our own party and between other parties. But at this time in our country's time, we need to come together for the good of the country and elected those who will aid us in our fight. not make it harder. And remember, even though this is fun and at times even demanding. This isn't real life. so we should not take or make things personal.
It is the responsibility of the party to vet their candidates for congress. That is why the PPs get to pick who runs. If you can't field 51 good candidates use blockers or open states up to a non-top 5 party, or w/e. This crap of letting anyone who says, "I would like to run in X state" run is junk. Until the parties police themselves, this crap will continue. This goes to ALL parties not just the CvP. They just got it the worst because of the actions of a few.
I get what you're saying johnpauljones, but what your saying hinges on having a PP that gives a sh** about stuff like that. We tried to counsel Shermain, he wouldn't hear us. None of us could go to him from a position of authority so he had no reason to respond to us. I completely agree that something should have been done about him. I would have ran as a blocker had I found out about this before the 24th.
Funny stuff.
I stand by my later statements in the comments section of Shermain's Piece. If ligtreb wasn't using his possition as the head of Fort Harlet, then it does appear as if he is. In politics, the appearance of impropriety is often the proof of impropriety.
My suggestion then, as it is now, is that if the eUS government sees a need to have level 0 jobs to produce, they should support the businesses that hire level 0 workers, and these businesses should not actually be owned or managed by a congressional member. Basically they should Black-Water it.
This would remove the taint of "buying votes with Guns", which is truly what Shermain was addressing in his ...Well, Rant might be too strong a word, perhaps, just calling it an ad would be a bit too tame.
I have read, thanks to ligtreb actually explaining the story of Fort Harlet, the truth of the situation, and no longer believe that ligtreb is buying votes with guns. However, I would not have even learned that if Shermain hadn't raised the subject.
Some of Shermain's ideas, however, are good, and should be adressed. Setting up more defensable states, the population of the eUS is on the rise, and some of us are rather partial to our regional homes. We are more than willing to answer the call to fight for this nation, where ever our president sees fit, but we would like to live in the prairies and montains again. I understand that this will take time, but, some of us actually consider ourselves citizens in exile from our home state.
I think that as Shermain learns this systems machanics, that he too will settle a bit. But, I believe that you veterans forget what idealic fools we newborns are. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we hardly ever look for it to be anything but a duck.
I don't blame the CvP at all. I blame a crappy PP.
In response to Ian John Locke, a number of times over the past few days rumors were flying about people being Ajay. I was also included in that list and believe this could have probably been part of the reason I lost. I cannot speak of Shermain and do not agree with what he did. I rarely talked to him in IRC and in game even though he continually messaged me. I told him not to run a number of times and sent him no votes myself. On the Jude issue, it was a copy and paste from a message someone sent me. There was no accusation and I believe I stated that it was a copy/paste and was no proof.
ROAR!
I have sent a message to ligtreb, hope many will let this go. Election is now over and SGG no problem man, since you put it out their about me continually messages you, I will not bother you again. Thanks for telling me.
Shermain, why bother?
wow...I just realized I don't care about any of this...nor did I notice that any of this was going on...