I can't haz more hospitals?
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by JeremyR
Greetings from your Wyoming Congressman,
I am writing this special congressional edition tonight as we need to discuss an important issue. I am a member of the Infrastructure Committee. The biggest thing discussed on infrastructure is the size of hospitals and the regions they need to be placed in. There are several options discussed and I will address each of them. If you disagree with me please state your opinion in the comments and this may become a series of articles. If you agree with me please comment vote and subscribe.
The first thing that was addressed was Q2 hospitals in larger states to increase retention. As a mentor and after reviewing stats from the Flying Unicorns I would like to address this point. A Q2 hospital costs 2000 USD in wood and even at minimum wage 20 workers for 14 days is another 280 USd. So volunteered labor making these hospitals would cost at least 2280 USD. So 63.84 Gold at current exchange rates is enough to fund one tank for half its available fights.. Now lets state some facts. Only 7 out of 10 people ever gain experience. Only 5 out of those 7 ever make it to level 3. Only 3 out of those 5 ever make it to level 5. 1 will become a two clicker and slowly lose wellness. One will die and never reach level 10. Then only 10 percent of the original 10 people will move to a fortress state. Yes people that is only one person saved. Even putting a value of 10 USD on those last two people that never move (the only two people that benefit from a q2 hospital in a high population state) it would take 228 saved people which would take a full month to pay back with only a possible chance of return. The people we would try to save at most would two click and at the very least would die. Do we want people quitting and two clicking? Does this solve our retention problem? Is the possible return of two people a day worth building a vulnerable Q2 hospital in Texas or New York? Two people that will not help our fortresses. Two people that will not help our economy? Two people that may or may not even reach level five. I say that the cost and risk is not worth the slight gain.
The next thing that was addressed was Q5 hospitals in larger population states. Currently we can't fill 3 fortress states to add another one would be a very bad thing. Also fortresses work best in high resource areas and those of stragetic importance. New York and Texas have none of these qualities as the resources they hold are already secured in other regions.
As I said feel free to disagree. This is a public opinion article as such I can take all information gained from it and restart discussions on the forums. If you agree please vote this up, if you disagree please vote this up and either way please comment so I can know the public opinion on this.
Josh Frost may support my opinion.
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Great article JeremyR!
god not the hospital debate again...im still having nightmares over the last one
@ltdan676 this isn't a debate its the actual facts i have come up with in congress i am just presenting them to the public
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I have no opinion on the matter. Don't spend money, unless you absolutely need to!
V & S
Hot topic..
i fully support a Q5 in Texas or Tennesse despite no one careing 😃
Tanner, I heartily endorse your plan to build a Q5 hospital in Texas or Tennessee. I just don't endorse using taxpayer money for it. 😉
Your argument sounds like fuzzy math to me ( http://www.jokesplace.com/joke/wantadayoff.html" target="_blank">http://www.jokesplace.com/joke/wantadayo[..].html )
I just checked and we had 402 new citizens today. I have no idea if that number is affected by other factors (region-swapping etc.) but that is a lot more people than the "Yes people that is only one person saved."
Using your own stated 10% and the number I found, that looks like more than 40 new players would survive long enough to move to a fortress state. Obviously many of these would land in states that aren't even being discussed for hospitals but if we can gain even half these people per day doing this--and this assumes your numbers are accurate and there are no other mitigating factors--than it sounds like it might be worth it.
Also, talk to Max McFarland. From what I remember he is a proponent of this idea and if that is true, such Hospitals are as good as free.
I'm a huge advocate of Fortress Strategy but if Q2 Hospitals will bring in 20 new eAmericans to a fortress state every day I'll sign onto the idea.
/v /s -excellent article on congress's debate. For the record, I am glad the debate happened. Please continue to debate and report.
@exalted. Q5 or Q2 Hospitals are not free, opportunity cost is still a cost. JeremyR laid that out clearly. He also laid out the strategic problem well:
"we can't fill 3 fortress states to add another one would be a very bad thing"
-This is a true statement and nothing more needs to be debated on it. If you do not understand, do a study/run the numbers yourself.
It is education, social contact, and assistance that retains new players. Q2 hospitals, or Qover9000 hospitals, do not matter in player retention. Period.
Q2 Hospitals(or Q5 for that matter) in every state will simply mean a reduction in MT costs-paid by the DoI- for new players that show interest in the game. Do the math on that. You will find that it is decisively in favor of no new hospitals. Those that care move; those that do not die.
It's sad how many idiots pick one statement of the opposite sde, out of context, then contradict it. Don't be an idiot, folks.
@Zheng He: I <3 you man
"😉on't be an idiot, folks."
As an idiot I take offense.
Well done JeremyR. V & S.
The US does not need more hospitals now. In fact more hospitals will make the US less powerful.
@exalted sorry for the misunderstanding 400 people join the US everyday. Ok that is great however only about 10 to 15 join in new york and another 10 to 15 join in texas so if we put a q2 hospital in both we can save 2-4 people per day. out of 400 people this is not worth the cost but thank you for calling me on it so i ccould clarify.
no moar
thank you all for attending congress today
no more hospitals. period. everyone should be moving to Karnataka. There is no 'state' more important than our strategic holding. Until we have a population of 8000 there, it should not even be a discussion.
Personally, I think its worth the risk for the retention to put hospitals in other areas besides FL, CA, and Karnakata.