House of Lords. The immoral legislative body is in disrepute.
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by CV James
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Why do we still have an outdated, elitist, undemocratic, unrepresentative body which can significantly influence laws and delay the legislative process?
The debate on the House of Lords has once again returned, once again spearheaded by Presidential candidate, Tommy Tommasino and the all new Forward Britain! Party (previously the MDU).
After looking deeper into the topic, the eUK Telegraph stands firmly more than ever against this elitist body. Why, in an age like today, when we have been only given the choice to act democratically, have a select few been given the right to interfere and influence the democratic process in a highly undemocratic manner?
The Lords was proposed by Kboomer, previously of the old Right Party, and came into effect November last year. The House of Lords Act states it is “to create a larger reliance of Checks and Balances in the UK Government…to both review and approve of legislation through the House of Common… it will also allow more experienced members of the UK to advise on matters of National Law.” Basically, it is a body filled with eUKs oldest players, who are unelected and have the ability to block, delay and amend laws debated and passed by the elected House of Commons. It is unrepresentative, which means no Lord can be held accountable for any wrongdoings.
It is a hotspot of corruption and tyranny.
Supporters of the Lords claim it is to “reward” citizens who contribute to the country. If they have contributed that much, they should run for Congress and get in no problem. They also argue it is for citizens who cannot commit on a full-time basis, but who work tirelessly for the country. Yet many Lords rarely bother to show up in the House, RonaldChris for example, has a post count of 0 on the eUK forums. Others, such as KIA Sneak left eRepublik months ago, and various others have ditched the country they have been “rewarded” by to seek fortune and fame elsewhere.
Lords Funky44 and twaters are now a congress members in the Czech Republic, BBB is working in the Philippines, and worse yet, Lords nominee cause célèbre Bob Boblo moved to Malaysia to run for Congress there alongside Indonesians, a sure sign he couldn’t care less about eUK or its legislative process.
Whilst we’re on the case of Boblo, another issue is highlighted with the inadequacy of the Lords. A few weeks back, Bob attempted to nominate himself for a lordship following a failed Congress elected in which he hadn’t bothered to write a manifesto. As RFA leader Goku Jones put it: “Proposing yourself on the very day of the election results just seems to me like you are trying to bypass the democratic process, I don't care if you deserve the position or not”.
As the Party Presidents of the five largest parties must approve all Lords nominations, The Unity Party chose to block the ascension of Bob to the Lords, the quote above given as a number of reasons. Yet, in a sure sign the Lords resent and are quite happy to ignore the path of democracy and the relevant legislation, Lord Twater was quoted as stating: As far as i'm concerned, with all due respect to TUP as a party, their decision should be declared invalid. Former fellow Lord, Rayf Drayson goes on: “Perhaps we need to amend the selection procedure again to allow an HoL vote to overrule a PP decision on selection/removal” effectively proposing the removal of the only lifeline the Lords has to any democratic authority.
No body should ever be above the law, especially those that are unelected.
The advantages of a Lords-like body are to be appreciated. The elected House of Commons can make mistakes, and it could be good for a body to exist to make sure this doesn’t happen. But far too often partisan politics are brought into the “balance-checking” procedure.
The Lords should be abolished as they currently stand and decommissioned as a purely advisory body.
The current debate can be found here:
http://forums.erepublik.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=7739
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Real action will be taken on this issue by FB and RFA later today.
Voted and voted again 😛
Thanks 🙂
Change is coming Goku!
FORWARD BRITAIN: REAL CHANGE.
FB and RFA are now boycotting the HoL until reform has been implemented.
I blame this on the government, they have the real power but they are acting like a bunch of do-nothings on this issue
"I blame this on the government, they have the real power but they are acting like a bunch of do-nothings on this issue"
- It is the role of Parliament, not the government, to legislate.
as per usual the government is trying to shift the blame, no wonder you scored a mere average of 'satisfactory' on a poll run by my newspaper
Voted 🙂
RFA Stance: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/house-of-lords-boycott-786747/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hous[..]/1/20
First of all you spelt my name wrong, and I wasn't standing alongside Indos nor Hungarians (it was actually hungarians who were allegedly plotting a TO). I was helping Malaysia, becuase they allow you to do that if your not an elected official.
"Why, in an age like today, when we have been only given the choice to act democratically, have a select few been given the right to interfere and influence the democratic process in a highly undemocratic manner?"
Consider this; how many 'elected' congressman get a majority vote. HoC is little more democratic than HoL'
"It is a hotspot of corruption and tyranny"
How exactly? Helps your point if you substantiate
"If they have contributed that much, they should run for Congress and get in no problem."
Paras + Semi Active people can't run
"Yet many Lords rarely bother to show up in the House"
Problem?
"The advantages of a Lords-like body are to be appreciated."
And yet you want to abolish it completey.
Pathetic. Publicity. Stunt.
Yes, i was quoted as saying 'As far as i'm concerned, with all due respect to TUP as a party, their decision should be declared invalid', but i very much enjoy how you missed my reasoning. I didn't simply say 'i don't like this, it doesn't count' (which, incidentally, is what the HoL boycott is doing) but i stated why due process wasn't followed.
My current whereabouts is unnecessary, i am on paratrooper business (which is also a major benefit of the HoL), but i am, and have been, an eUK member for 14 months now - my loyalty is not in question.
The history of the House of Lords proposal is a lot more complex than simply 'KBoomer proposed it'. It was a multi-party effort, originally suggested by Stan Wephen, and was agreed across parties to be a major step forward.
This is not a defence of elitism - elitism is not present in the House of Lords. We have no power whatsoever to oppose the Commons on the substance of laws, merely its fine-tuning. We have no ultimate power, and does exist purely as an advisory body.
Btw, show me where partisan politics are brought in. I challenge you. Perhaps you'll try to construe this as Lords abuse again, but put simply, this article is a badly-researched, irrelevant polemic.
Thanks for the replies. And twaters - abuse is shouting offensive things at people, I'm not an idiot.
Just going out, will reply properly later 🙂