Farmers
J Seemore
Farmer - a player with many WRM & FRM companies. "Many" means hundreds. There could be some food and weapons factories too with the only purpose to use the materials instead of selling them cheap.
The Farmer is 4Div player who doesn't care about spending experience points for working on the open field and he works always in places with full bonuses. Nowadays we don't need to waste our precious time for producing all those materials. Everything is morern now, it takes just few clicks with the mouse and you fill your giant storage with production. That's why These palyers are often 4 clickers.
Investments and payback.
Q3 or Q5 RM companies ? - That is the main question.
The payback time for Q3 RM is shorter than Q5's. But if you have more than 100 RM you will need more energy and that means you must work few times per day, which sometimes is not very pleasant if you want to be 2clicker.
The prices of RM is not so stable and they vary from 0.02 (very rare, but you can meet it abroad) to 0.08 or even 0.10 and that is also rare. You may make your own calculations or use erepublikanalyzer.com to find out the companies profability.
Usually the payback for Q3 RM is six months.
That was the introduction and now straight to the point.
What do you think about long term government investments? eAustralia can support few players so they can become farmers. An example:
100 Aluminium Mines = 1000 gold
3 Farmers * 1000 = 3000 G
That is pretty much money and the right decision will be to build these mines during Black Friday promotion.
Then 300 mines will cost 2100 G, which is more acceptable. We can make an agreement with the players, so half of the profit will goes to the Farmer and the other half - to our Treasury. In this case the farmers must be located in a nation with full weapon bonuses. If they want to stay in Australia then they will keep just 25% of the profit and the other 75% will be given to the treasury.
In this case the payback will be around an year. Yeah, 365 bloody fu**ing working days, but we must think about this issue. At that time the farmer will get richer with 700 Gold and we must be glad having an opportunity to support our players.
What will happend after this one year:
- We will have our funds returned and we will get clear profit later. There is possibility for dissolving the mines after this period - then we will get 500 G per Farmer;
- 3 rich accounts;
- National long term strategy, which will show that we are alive.
Please write below what do you think about Creating farmers with government money. Later I will make a poll, where you will point your answer, but here is the place for discussion. Your opinion is very important! Here we are not more than 50 active players, so your vote has 2% weight.
In the next articles I will talk about "Donation from Dead players" and "Changing your MU during the tournaments"
For shout:
Farmers
http://goo.gl/uIsgSD
Comments
Interesting, I currently have 90 aluminium mines, but profits s minimal. You also need LOADS of storage which is also very expensive :/
Don't sell them ot the market just like that. Make an agreement with someone with Q7 factories. You will sell them evry day below the market price, but then you don;t need huge storage. If you are 4Div player you should be a good fighter and every 3500 PP gives you Large storage.
Right now the profit is minimal, that is true. But most often you are able to sell WRM for 0.035 and sometimes much more than that.
Voted
very interesting idea.... I would vote for it. 🙂
Voted great idea
Good thinking, I like the idea.
Obviously need to choose the farmers wisely as 1000G investment in a person who suddenly stops playing (or breaks the agreement) is risky but I'm sure there are enough trustworthy people for it to work. It also costs a little in food/health to work 100 mines per day but I guess half the profit should cover that...
Opening your profile, Paul I see 32 HW, 51 TP and 9 Congress medals. You are almost 4div player and soon you will take mil. rank Titan. At least 5 old eAustralian players will approve that you are honest man. You will be the perfect candidate for Farmer. I believe we can find some other players like you.
Food wasted for working must be bought from a friend for a price below the market (for huge quantity).
Don't fall for it! Paul is dodgy. Don't trust the stats -- he is known to be good at doctoring numbers.
Stop exposing my incompetence, it is very upsetting
V+
I like the idea!
Voted and I like the idea.
So the government gives you money to remove youself somewhere else to get the bonuses so basically we are paying people to move out of the country I vote no on this one
Doovah, for you these people are betrayers but for me they are ambassadors. Strong and respectful players abroad will make good connections with other nations. Take Ouke Stinos - he may defend our interests anytime when he moves to Greece for farming (just an example).
o7 You always impress me with your technical abilities J Seemore
In Serbia- state have financed the MU like that, and thats the reason Serbia have really strong MU's, that are able to sustain themselves.
This is really good idea- great project, and I hope that peoples in Australia will support it.
This is really important guys. You should go for it my friends 🙂
Sorry for bad English 😛
I know, Marcus. See this guy:
WyvernJack
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/6451651
That is our Hero! He supplies MU members with 10 Q7 weapons per day and not that only. Anything what I am going to say for him will be not enough, so I will keep silence...
... Respect o7
PS: I will expect to see his point of view about this issue.
A game can change a lot during a year.
Can?
There will be change for sure! We need to do something and we shoudn't be affraid that something can be changed. That is a risk, I admit it, but we are brave people. Numbers and yellow pixels - that is the gold.
I hope the change will be for good or else we will all lose (players and Plato)
I have 2500k storage and more than 200 aluminium mines and a few more dozens of other companies nowadays I do not think this game will last for long time.
more than 90% of the time, no company makes profit without the 100% bonus so the question is.
worth wasting time playing erepublik seems that every upgrade that plato makes just sinks the game more and more since for them greed is greater than the goodwill.
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The houses have destroyed profits for Q7 manufacturers.. The workers are too expensive now...
Share your experience with us, mate. Tell us how much was your profit last month.
o7
I don't know how much profit I do per month,argentine don´t have stable bonus but is possible that I have more or less 60/80k in production and some material that I buy at lower price I cant know because I use the profit to buy 10 golds everyday and I spend alot of cc in moving to do the FF medals and 500cc in tax and salary.
Thanks for the information!
o7
Voted, I would add that if Work Tax is high then Q5 is much better than Q3 from what I've seen
Right now Work Tax is higher, but this will be just a temporary event.
Q5 is much better if you have money enough.
It´s a very intersting ideia !!
Do admins put Black Friday every year ? I don´t remmeber 🙁
yes, last year they put that promo 2 times one in september and december if I not in mistake.
and another promotions with a very good discount in the erepublik 5 years anniversary if I remember well.
Last year I bought almost 900k in storage they put the high storage at 17 golds now I trying to do the same to buy a Q7 or more raws companies.
Voted hard)
Like in every long term investment, it's a big question will player remain in the game. Basically, any D4 player can become farmer, since there's no need to watch out for advancing (too much EXP). Perhaps the solution is to sponsor trusted players, who would dissolve facilities and return the cc, in case of quitting the game.
Or you can farm multies, . 🙂
I like the article, vote!
This is what I am trying to explain in my next article.
About the multies - that will me very complicated and they will be banned. I don't know 4div multi 🙂
Can't wait to read it, it sure will be interesting. 🙂
I guess, whoever plays a multi until D4, becomes the multi. 😃
It is written already - it is for "dissolve facilities and return the cc, in case of quitting the game"
Thank you for reminding me, I think I even red it. Well, have to re-read it. 🙂
You are not able to maintenance 2 multies and trying to reach with them 4Div
I agree, multies are, usually, used in short terms or for some minor tasks. If someone would play so long to reach D4, it wouldn't be a multi, anymore, it would become player's main account. 🙂
interesting idea, i suppose in the end its a gamble, the govt and the ppl gotta decide if its worth the risk. Def think storage will be a problem for some 😛
With 3500 PP every week you take 9K storage. If you are/were active fighter then you might have plenty of storage space.
It is a gamble, but if we buy them for 70% we can dissolve the buildings later and for that period we will cover the loss of 20%
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