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Evidence?

Day 1,799, 13:15 by Gaalen

I've been thinking about the thefts and I got wondering,

what can we say is evidence in a case like this? Any kind of image could be faked, and chat logs could be faked or could be an impostor... the admin will never help us or tell us what's going on. Half of the people in eIreland will always discredit the word of the other half.. etc .etc

So in the end, guilty or not there's nothing we can do. It seems to all come down to trust, and the most we can do is figure out who we trust and then use our votes to try and get those people in power. The problem is, what if we end up not trusting people who are really there to help us? I guess that's the price we pay for our paranoia... maybe that costs less than being too trusting and getting robbed.

In the end.. it seems like what we were really robbed of is more than gold and currency...

Talking to citizens around eIreland and seeing what is said.. Our only means of justice is our votes...

Until next time

-Gaalen

 

Comments

MR. PADRAIG PEARSE
MR. PADRAIG PEARSE Day 1,799, 13:20

Irelands CC. nomnomnomnomnom

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 13:22

Really good article Gaalen. When you think about it, there's really no evidence that could be provided that couldn't come into question. In the end most people will either weigh the evidence and their gut feelings, or come to whatever conclusion they prefer to believe.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,799, 13:41

Or we can execute, kill and destroy everyone closely involved in this theft plus 100 random picked citizens and let Jesus seperate guilty from innocent...

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 14:00

Execute AND kill them? Isn't that a bit excessive?

Liam Tatlock
Liam Tatlock Day 1,799, 14:07

Unfortunately there's no definitive evidence one way or another unless the admins will actually answer the tickets and tell us who got the money. I could have missed it, but I'm not sure we were even told if sawc was the guilty party in the first theft, even though everything seemed to point to him.

Sleep is for the weak
Sleep is for the weak Day 1,799, 14:32

Unfortunatly this newbie knows more then 90% of Ireland...

Sweet Drinker
Sweet Drinker Day 1,799, 14:46

^this

collinfigures
collinfigures Day 1,799, 15:33

very good reflection. Finally we only must know who to trust, this is difficult initially but the time allow us to know more to people.

Winston Hope Smith
Winston Hope Smith Day 1,799, 16:26

This is true

People have to make their own mind up

I for one now have a very small circle of trust

That is sad

moomoohead
moomoohead Day 1,799, 16:27

Marcus made a funny statement in a PM the other day. When asked if the logs were real that he claimed to be the owner of the multi that the money showed up in, he claimed the logs weree real. He said every one in the ICA was braging about there multis and he picked some random player and claimed it was his multi to fit in. Then unfortunatly that multi turns up with the Irish goverment money. That is the best he can do.

Bristel Akina
Bristel Akina Day 1,799, 16:38

moomoohead, enough. I think it's about time we move on, because it's going to last for months if people keep slinging mud back and forth.

Everyone. Move. On.

Sleep is for the weak
Sleep is for the weak Day 1,799, 16:43

BA we should let thiefs get on with that just because thief is your friend?

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 16:52

I think that part of Gaalen's point is that there's nothing to be accomplished by arguing about the theft after a certain point. The evidence is what it is - we can never have bullet proof evidence short of a player openly admitting it. Each citizen is left to make what they will of what has been given to us, and to try their best to form an honest unbiased opinion about it.

Bristel Akina
Bristel Akina Day 1,799, 17:52

The Psych0 I still haven't seen proof of it being Marcus. So your point is lost.

The Death of Rats
The Death of Rats Day 1,799, 18:25

True. The thief/s have mostly accomplished his/her/their goals. Irish society is once more divided and penniless. What a masterpiece. If I didn't cost all of us so much I would applaud.

Raven Anarcho
Raven Anarcho Day 1,799, 20:22

voted

Releasethe Krakken
Releasethe Krakken Day 1,800, 07:07

we are stuck with the results of ticket submitted whom only a person in power can submit? Problem will always be the program. Its obvious that the security is very basic to begin with. first off if this was like a real big org you would be assigned a role and privileges according to your role. that would mean only the MOF could handle transfers etc. Well anyways like with many games I think Plato knows that there must be some level of chaos to keep ppl interested hence no penalties .

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,800, 08:09

We're not F***ing moving on.

We can't run the country with no money. Even all the loyal friends of Marcus have stopped supporting him as there is too much evidence against him from his other so-called friends.

Marcus has 800k of your money needed to run the State, like Boot Camp, MPP's and other ancillaries. Moving on does not change the fact that we are bankrupt.

Please lever as much pressure as possible on Marcus to give whatever money he has back

Big Sexy Black Man
Big Sexy Black Man Day 1,800, 09:32

Calm down Malbehk it's make-believe monies anyway.

Releasethe Krakken
Releasethe Krakken Day 1,800, 10:38

i dont know what the big deal is either. so boot camp cant complete daily tasks? i have been on my own resources from the start. you can do most things without the state's help. mpp? can be kept on hold.

HAUGH HAS A BIG COCK
HAUGH HAS A BIG COCK Day 1,800, 10:39

That Big Sexy Black Man really brings some sense into situations. And shtyle. The ride.

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,800, 11:22

Huh. You should see me with real money. Not pleasant at all.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,800, 17:22

"We can't run the country with no money. Even all the loyal friends of Marcus have stopped supporting him as there is too much evidence against him from his other so-called friends."

When you get this evidence gimme a shout man

Releasethe Krakken
Releasethe Krakken Day 1,801, 01:20

what puzzles me is the amount. just 14 days earlier it was reported that sawc stole most of the money out of orgz then 14 days later there is suddenly another million stolen. where did that come from? perhaps we should just get a rundown of balances between orgz for the last 2 months so that we can see om much is made in a month.

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,801, 08:01

@RTK

Dreaded was online when the money was being stolen by sawc, he took 1m out of the organisations he could get access to, and deposited it into the orgs once the passwords were reset. He subsequently resigned.

This is the 1m that Marcus took and gave to his friends

 
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