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eRep Admins release Congressional changes: Read them here.

Day 1,765, 10:49 by Candor
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Wiki release

Official Pre-release, from Wiki:

Starting with the 25th of September the 2012, the citizens will vote for a Party instead of voting a citizen from a specific party.

The members of the party will candidate with the same rules as now to the congress elections, but they will participate in the elections on the party list.

The party president will now see all the possible candidates in a single list for the all the country's regions.

The parties that are in top 5 on every 24th of the month at 00:00 will be the ones able to have Congress candidates.

The party president will choose the candidates on 24th of the month in the following manner:

Every party can propose a maximum number of candidates equal to the maximum number of Congress seats in that country.

Set up a national list (instead of a regional one) with all the candidates in the exact order the party president wants them in the Congress.

This is very important because the chance to join the Congress is higher for the ones in the top of the list.

If the party president does not decide the order on the 24th, the candidates will be on the list based on the rule “first come, first served”.

The Party president can only decide the priority order, but he cannot choose to have less official candidates than the maximum number of seats his country has.

ExampleParty X proposes to its country a list of 10 candidates in a specific order:


1.A
2.B
3.C
4.D
5.E
6.F
7.G
8.H
9.I
10.J

On the election day, the citizen will not see the list to choose a candidate but he will be in the situation to take an easier decision, to vote for a party.

If this party will get 50 votes from a total of 100 votes, the party gets 50% of the total votes. As a result, the first 5 candidates on this list will join the Congress.

If the party had only 4 candidates then all will join the Congress but one seat will remain unoccupied and the country will remain with one less congress for that month.


END OF ANNOUNCEMENT
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Candor's reaction:

In theory then, each party would get proportional representation if members voted within their own party.

And that's a citizens only choice in a Congressional election, which party (slate) to vote in.

It seems to me, then, that in order to elect the best of all parties into office, all the best candidates would need to run under the same party, and all votes would be directed to that party.

It's kind of screwed up, if you ask me. It'll take everyone awhile to come to this conclusion, but we'll have to have an "official" elections party.

There went democracy entirely. meh.

We now need just one single party for elections, the only usefulness of the other four will be POTUS candidates.

AND you just made Party Presidents THE most powerful people in the eWorld.

ADDITION: And since it will be a bitch to move people to the other four parties and then back again for CP elections, the guy (PP) running the Elections Party will also, essentially, choose the nations "Official" POTUS candidate. The other T4's will randomly be moving up and down all the time, no real way to secure those PP selections. We haven't an active enough population to be that mobile, that frequently, practically speaking.

You rolled all the power to one guy, essentailly. All of it.

The new question to those announcing Congressional candidacies from here on out:

"What number will you be ranked? Did you ask your PP?"

Submitted with revulsion,




Discuss.
 

Comments

Candor
Candor Day 1,765, 10:54

And this is how democracy ended, and we all became powned.

Ayroh
Ayroh Day 1,765, 11:02

Voted.

And this is how democracy ended, and we all became powned. x2

BeachBunny
BeachBunny Day 1,765, 11:06

I may just quit this game lol

Tiacha
Tiacha Day 1,765, 11:10

Ajay's happy that way. Even with the official party, he'll still get his party and a piece of the pie. Especially if he ends up being pp. Just being devil's advocate.

hailuotolainen
hailuotolainen Day 1,765, 11:12

\o/

Tiacha
Tiacha Day 1,765, 11:12

Or whatever other PTOer who will make a top 5 party when everyone doesnt move back to other parties quick enough.

HannyaTR
HannyaTR Day 1,765, 11:13

nd this is how democracy ended, and we all became powned

Coxswain McGillicutty
Coxswain McGillicutty Day 1,765, 11:14

I don't like it.

Previously, you could give a rookie an outlier state and see if he/she worked hard campaigning, and then give them more support on election day if they merited it.

Also, how are you supposed to campaign? "Vote for me, if maybe the PP puts me as a high priority and maybe my party gets enough total votes"? This is dumb.

Coxswain McGillicutty
Coxswain McGillicutty Day 1,765, 11:15

I acknowledge it could have ATO benefits, but those apply only IF you can control your top 5 parties. If you can't, it totally bones you.

Tiacha
Tiacha Day 1,765, 11:15

It means, kissing more butt Cerb. And the old boys club stays the same.

Iuliusv
Iuliusv Day 1,765, 11:21

I can imagine that some people will bribe the PP

Candor
Candor Day 1,765, 11:22

Some will give eFelacio as well ^^^

Bradley Reala
Bradley Reala Day 1,765, 11:26

A single election party is a PTO nightmare. All it takes is for a PTO party to put up a list of candidates and direct their votes there and they end up with a proportional amount of representation. If you guys were scared of PTOs before, this change should terrify you. The only option is to strictly control the top 5 parties, which, as has been proven in the past, is nigh untenable.

Bucephalus92
Bucephalus92 Day 1,765, 11:42

The admins implemented a poorly thought out change to erebuglik? Why am I not surprised

Godric Mortimer
Godric Mortimer Day 1,765, 11:52

What I want to know is why did they do this

Suleta
Suleta Day 1,765, 11:55

v + s

George Armstrong Custer
George Armstrong Custer Day 1,765, 12:13

absolutely moronic. thanks, Admins, for the st00pidest "improvement" to date.

Josh Whitehead
Josh Whitehead Day 1,765, 12:35

I'm confused as hell. It sounds like the same damn thing but worded all hell for me

Ignacio Da Silveira
Ignacio Da Silveira Day 1,765, 12:47

S + V

Astraeus II
Astraeus II Day 1,765, 12:55

This change makes absolutely no sense. Why would they implement this? I would like a "message" from Plato explaining what their thinking was behind this change so maybe it won't suck as badly.

Chucky Norris
Chucky Norris Day 1,765, 13:12

And this is how democracy ended, and we all became powned

FirstLaw
FirstLaw Day 1,765, 13:23

Democracy ended way before this, I assure you.

Ardikus V2
Ardikus V2 Day 1,765, 13:29

Well, there goes any fresh blood from entering congress.

supereviloverlord
supereviloverlord Day 1,765, 14:08

Some countries actually do use an electoral system like this (not that I approve of it, open list would have been better).

Still, at least there'll be no more need to split the votes properly.

Candor
Candor Day 1,765, 14:33

Open list ^^^ Yes, why not an open list at LEAST?? Why keep the slate secret?

Dru Blood
Dru Blood Day 1,765, 14:45

Why do I feel underwhelmed...?

Urho Armeliaasti
Urho Armeliaasti Day 1,765, 14:51

Care to explain why admins? Seems like the worst decision in erepublik history.

MindGuerilla
MindGuerilla Day 1,765, 15:22

Lately I've seen people do the most embarrassing thing they possibly can. This has just topped the list.

unualibro
unualibro Day 1,765, 15:30

First you killed the mu removing "accept". Now you kill the already very poor political module. Press module was dead long tie ago. Whats next?

Enenra
Enenra Day 1,765, 15:45

Big Sub !

EternalLightStream
EternalLightStream Day 1,765, 16:20

dont expect too much from this samsara realm.endless cycle of sadness and suffering because of platod ignorance

Iamnameless
Iamnameless Day 1,765, 16:22

unreal

Animis
Animis Day 1,765, 16:25

oh dear god, another disaster from the wigs, soon they will sell voting boosters for gold

Unum
Unum Day 1,765, 16:57

Yup, a really bad, bad idea.

Power has been taken away from ordinary citizens and concentrated in the hands of a few party elites.

Candor
Candor Day 1,765, 17:15

^^^ Bah and people thought that was true BEFORE this change! I have to laugh. It's now mechanically true.

Matija Kovacevic
Matija Kovacevic Day 1,765, 17:17

defaq

Cicero Alvez
Cicero Alvez Day 1,765, 17:37

oh dear god, another disaster from the wigs, soon they will sell voting boosters for gold 2x.

and perhaps some "political training ground" (plus a "limited time" offer for contract political training with plato, or maybe machiavelli) that can be upgraded for gold which earned you a "political strength" that can increase your "vote multiplier".

Joe DaSmoe
Joe DaSmoe Day 1,765, 17:37

HORRIBLE CHANGE................SHOCKER

Thedillpickl
Thedillpickl Day 1,765, 18:10

My article has music! :D

Good job Candor, always the first to break news.

Plato plays Halloween trick early this year. Wish he would go back to tipping over my outhouse.

Tiamati
Tiamati Day 1,765, 19:22

Excellent explanation of the recent changes ; Plato has changed the political module to resemble a european legislature. Eventually these changes will drive away all the remaining beta players.

Shin Gouki
Shin Gouki Day 1,765, 20:38

Tsk, Plato is pushing us towards a monopolistic state. What's next?

Kendo Yanar
Kendo Yanar Day 1,765, 20:57

What a friggen dumb idea!!!

Asinez
Asinez Day 1,765, 21:25

Vote
ViVa Blood Lust Army
MuHahahahahahahaha

Jon873
Jon873 Day 1,765, 21:51

This is how democracy ended. Might probably change it to a dictatorship, oh wait it is.

New Module sucks

Rastko1991
Rastko1991 Day 1,765, 22:13

slosh
slosh Day 1,766, 00:14

Bassy
Bassy Day 1,766, 01:18

I don't buy it.

Christopher Edwards II
Christopher Edwards II Day 1,766, 01:39

Democracy died when people could find the current vote count and move to a different region to vote.

Edna Uebel
Edna Uebel Day 1,766, 03:58

voted

stancel
stancel Day 1,766, 04:30

Yet Party Presidents still don't get a medal for being elected PP. -_-

 
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