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erBUGlik strikes again!
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UPDATE!
The rule on which we planned the attack has been modified by admins right now, after all these things happened.
You can check it here:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Alliance&diff=97112&oldid=96853
The editing of the rule apparently did not change its meaning, as can be seen from the fact that the Poland-Hungary war has started. Which is the important thing I guess; better late than never, even though it does change strategy somewhat.
Eredeti cikk:
ereBUGlik megintcsak beleköpött a tervekbe... nem nyílt meg a lengyel háború, csak a német, hiába támadtuk meg Horvátországot, hiába aktiváltuk az MPP-iket, nem ért egyik se semmit.
ereBUGlik again made a mess of planning... the Polish war did not open up, even though the German one did - so it was for nothing that we attacked Croatia, it was for nothing that we activated their MPP-s.
Néha imádom ezt a játékot...
Néha gyűlölöm...
De a BUGokat mindig gyűlölöm!
Sometimes I love this game...
Sometimes I hate it.
But I always hate the BUGS!
Quicksilver
"When the president of country A (can be also country B after 24 hours of inactivity) attacks for the first time in that war a region from country B, region that belongs in real life to country B and countries A and B didn't sign in the last 30 days a peace proposal the MPP countries of country B enter war with country A (the same way as happened in Beta: if they are neighbor countries will start a separate war, if not, the same war)."
Now, this 'side-war' has opened between Germany and Hungary, so it should have opened between Poland and Hungary too. It was all according to the rules, it was all right and it was a bug that did not let the Polish war open.
Another update: The idea and the whole thing was NOT mine, but the government's which I am not part. I could see it coming as a possible situation and I thought it could really work, but still, some people have a miscomprehension about it, so I thought to clear that issue too. I have only wrote this article about it, that's all....
Azazahogy az egész terv ötlete és kivitelezése NEM az enyém volt, hanem a kormányé, amelynek semmilyen szinten nem vagyok a tagja. Láttam, hogy ez lesz, hiszen előrelátható volt, és én is megvalósíthatónak tartottam, de mivel egyeseknek érdekes tévképzeteik vannak ezügyben, így gondoltam tisztázom egy füst alatt ezt is.Én csak egyszerűen megírtam ezt a cikket belőle, az események után...
Quicksilver
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UPDATE!
The rule on which we planned the attack has been modified by admins right now, after all these things happened.
You can check it here:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php?title=Alliance&diff=97112&oldid=96853
The editing of the rule apparently did not change its meaning, as can be seen from the fact that the Poland-Hungary war has started. Which is the important thing I guess; better late than never, even though it does change strategy somewhat.
Eredeti cikk:
ereBUGlik megintcsak beleköpött a tervekbe... nem nyílt meg a lengyel háború, csak a német, hiába támadtuk meg Horvátországot, hiába aktiváltuk az MPP-iket, nem ért egyik se semmit.
ereBUGlik again made a mess of planning... the Polish war did not open up, even though the German one did - so it was for nothing that we attacked Croatia, it was for nothing that we activated their MPP-s.
Néha imádom ezt a játékot...
Néha gyűlölöm...
De a BUGokat mindig gyűlölöm!
Sometimes I love this game...
Sometimes I hate it.
But I always hate the BUGS!
Quicksilver
"When the president of country A (can be also country B after 24 hours of inactivity) attacks for the first time in that war a region from country B, region that belongs in real life to country B and countries A and B didn't sign in the last 30 days a peace proposal the MPP countries of country B enter war with country A (the same way as happened in Beta: if they are neighbor countries will start a separate war, if not, the same war)."
Now, this 'side-war' has opened between Germany and Hungary, so it should have opened between Poland and Hungary too. It was all according to the rules, it was all right and it was a bug that did not let the Polish war open.
Another update: The idea and the whole thing was NOT mine, but the government's which I am not part. I could see it coming as a possible situation and I thought it could really work, but still, some people have a miscomprehension about it, so I thought to clear that issue too. I have only wrote this article about it, that's all....
Azazahogy az egész terv ötlete és kivitelezése NEM az enyém volt, hanem a kormányé, amelynek semmilyen szinten nem vagyok a tagja. Láttam, hogy ez lesz, hiszen előrelátható volt, és én is megvalósíthatónak tartottam, de mivel egyeseknek érdekes tévképzeteik vannak ezügyben, így gondoltam tisztázom egy füst alatt ezt is.Én csak egyszerűen megírtam ezt a cikket belőle, az események után...
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Akko most mi van?
Szivacs?
SÜN, meg FOSZ
Látod, ebben egyetértünk: én is gyűlölöm a bugokat.
Addig foglaljuk el Horvátországot, az ATLANTIS mellettünk áll.
erBUGlik - LOL ))
This game is almost as bad as IE6. But I still like it.
This game is a crap, i'm out...
hehe...micsoda meglepi, az adminok meg mindig tudnak ujat alkotni...
Áprilisi tréfa srácok, nincs humorérzéketek
De jót nevettem.
Én viszont nem igazán értettem miért támadta meg Magyarország Horvátországot ráadásul eredeti horvát területen: az MPP-k aktiválódtak, igaz jelenleg még nem a horvát oldalon (de van egy sejtésem hogy hamarosan ki fogják javítani...) - és akkor Magyarország az egész Atlantis-szal néz szembe... az lesz majd az igazi WW ha a horvátok majd nekiesnek a magyar területeknek...
köszönjük Emese....
No bug here. You got the rules wrong. The war against Croatia wasn't opened by you.
Otyik... ezt hívják talán... BUGNAK?
és akkor? pm? kérés? "utasítás"?
ez most áprilisi tréfa, vagy Quicksilver kormányszóvívő???
AaReE
@Hattor: She has no idea about rules. Several days ago she tried to convince me that during trivia period you can more XP if you give correct answers to trivia. She is good only on Solitaire probably>
buhahah...Hungary with croatian mpps activated buhahahah
Interesting.
LOL )
Horvatroszag e Magyarorszag eBuglik brother!
P.S. thnx for MPP activations )
Azért lettek megtámadva, mert az MPP-k egy speciális szabálya szerint ha a támadó szomszédjai közül valakinek MPP-je van a megtámadottal, akkor azzal automatikusan megnyílik egy háború. Azaz meg kellett volna nyílnia a lengyel és a német háborúknak, mivel a szomszédok közül nekik van MPP-jük Horvátországgal. Azonban egy bug miatt csak a német háború nyílt meg, a másik, amit mi akartunk a lengyelekkel, az nem.
Viszlát Magyarország. Ha az Atlantis kicsit is erősebb mint a PEACE, akkor simán eltörölhetnek minket. Minden, amit eddig elértetek, egy őrült húzás miatt újra elveszhet. És mindezt egy teljesen értéktelen régióért...
@Han solo
And why we activate the German war and the Poland not(the two countrys status is equal)?
When the president of country A (can be also country B after 24 hours of inactivity) attacks for the first time in that war a region from country B, region that belongs in real life to country B and countries A and B didn't sign in the last 30 days a peace proposal the MPP countries of country B enter war with country A (the same way as happened in Beta: if they are neighbor countries will start a separate war, if not, the same war).
LOL
i have to say "Thank you Hungary for mpp's activation"
tnx Hungary for securing our newly gained regions
i have to say "Thank you Hungary for mpp's activation" )
@Ironworks: Önjelölt kormányszóvivő
You are welcome, our croatian friends But use it wisely, it ma strike back
Thank you Hungary for securing our newly gained regions!
én aszondom azonnal rakjuk le szegedre a defense systemet
3-headed monkey: RW... Like in Germany.
@Han & Hattor : stop teaching them how to play the game )
Ludrew: cinikusan írtam... nem is értem, h hogy lehet vki ekkor hülye p***@
Minek kürtöli világgá, hogy mit akartunk tenni???
A speciális szabálynál a wikiben amúgy mikori ez a beírás? "a szabály tisztázása folyamatban, update várható"
Tankred: a wikiknél általában meg lehet nezni a modositasokat a korabbi verziohoz. Itt nem jatszik ez?
Hungary, thank you so much, i really love you all.
Ironworks, aki nem teljesen hülye, az a horvát támadás percében tudta - ergo semmit nem árultam el senkinek.
És légy szíves mérsékeld magad, jó?
Meh, Hungarians did that on purpose to protect their Croatian Brother, it was very original and we congratulate our RL brothers on such brilliant idea. Join us in ATLANTIS!
Ludrew, neked mi bajod van? Írtam egy cikket, nem vagyok szóvivő, amit látok, arról írtam... mi baj van ezzel?
BorKan you should not thank us that, you should be rather afraid:
Check the wars:
Croatia vs Hungary
0 allies vs 8allies (including Romania, Spain, Poland etc)
It seem like Atlantis is on OUR side
"Ironworks, aki nem teljesen hülye, az a horvát támadás percében tudta - ergo semmit nem árultam el senkinek."
így igaz, ez a cikk nem oszt nem szoroz, nem ebből tudták meg a dolgot.
U BorKan
your example is about declareing war
"0 allies vs 8allies (including Romania, Spain, Poland etc)
It seem like Atlantis is on OUR side "
That's just a bug, that will be changed soon, it's the same like in our last war.
az a baj, h innentől kezdve "aki teljesen hülye" már az is tudja, hiszen világgá lett kürtölve... biztos ami biztos tudja meg mindenki, miben is mesterkedtünk... és micsoda pechünk van...
Sebehmah.
Croatia declared war to serbia. Serbia attacked croatia. War opened Serbia romania.
Any questions?
@tomiii, yes it's a bug, Serbia also had our MPPs.
This game is shit.
Ironworks te teljesen hülye vagy.
Bocs, nem is hülye, komplett idióta.
2x2=.... az eredmény titok.
Kérlek ne kürtöljétek világgá!
PONT.
Well my dear Hungarians, you can see what happen when you are leaded by a player like quicksilver who has no idea about the game mechanics. Now you have only 400 gold in your bank account, an open war with Germany, an open war with Romania and an open war with Croatia with all their MPPs activated. That means you got all ATLANTIS in your yard. At this moment you are not safe even in your precious western transdanubia ))
buhahahahahahhaaha This "great strategy" will remain in erep history known as "How can I destroy my country in a second using our own money"
sorry for this bug,
hope it gets corrected ASAP
I do not lead Hungary... neither was the idea mine.
But still, it should have worked, if not for the bug.
sebahmah, this is uncorrectable.
Surpriese and other benefactors are gone.
Han. Quicksilver is nowhere near our leadership for quite some time if i'm right. But maye you know better.
Our plans got screwed by a quite suspicious method again.
Han...you are a nice girl, but unfortunately you cant think logically...Who would dare to attack us with so many MPP? Even the BIG romania didnt dare to attack us, so it was a good plan.
Oh yeah and one more thing...no one dares to risk a TO, so we are safe on our own land
Han Solo: you will understand this without translation:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-flash-ungurii-dezlantuiti-768420/1/20
this is the crazyest possible move you could make, now you activated our mpp.s with spain,finland,sweden,poland,uk,romania,germany,usa
just to save few golds ? who the hell is leading hungary ?
For me it seems like all of croatias MPPS opened for Hungary.
So Hungary is fighting alongside Germany, USA, etc. against croatia
lol
its funny how powerful croatia thinks it is.
go ahead and attack
Atlantis is on our side, prepare Croatia!! xD
So to be clear: If Sweden declares war on Germany, and Germany has an Alliance with Poland, then Sweden will automatically declare war directly on Poland as well, and neither Poland nor Germany will be able to take advantage of their Alliance pact.
Hungary didn`t declare war to Croatia....
So you`re mistake, and from now on you have the whole atlantis on your head... Good job.
quick, azt vagod h bejott a reggeli atlantiszes viccunk?
@Zelja
We have got 12 MPPs, Turkey,Brazil,Indonesia,Italy,France...
This is much enough against Crotia's MPPs.
no glados its actually other way around, croatia would never open war with 8 countries lol
Tóth TamÃ& ... Serbia declared war to Croatia
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Serbia/law/4162
backlash has it right
so cmon croatia, try to fight a nation you cant takeover
Ion Roata.
Then it is proved that admins are doing romania favors.
1. Croatia declare war to serbia.
2. Serbia attacks slavonia i guess.
3. Mpps ar active and an active war with Romania.
If what you say is true the war Serbia- Romania would be a bug. But it opened for quite a few days, so admins should have plentyy of time to fix it. But they didnt.
So.
We have open war with Croatia.
We attack region.
Mpp active.
German war opens.
But no Poland?
@IOn Roata: You are wrong, do you know the Serbian-Croatian affair?
Serbia didtn declare war on Croatia (Croatia did), but Serbia attacked, and a Romanian-Serbian war was opened
So, Hungary's declaration of war on Croatia isnt required to kick in the automatical Poland-Hungary war, all what is need is just just a simple attack on Croatia by Hungary;)
Fradigy, percek óta azon nevetek. :-DDD
Rutakate, admins closed that and Croatia declared a new one.
Serbia declared war on croatia.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Serbia/law/4162
When Serbia atacked all the countries around here wit an MPP had a war started. Hungary didn`t declare war on Croatia. It`s that simple..
IOn Roata, it is very simple: the war opened with Germany, it should have opened the same way with Poland.
It is a fact.
That law was cancelled by admins, thats why Croatia needed to declare war on Serba "again" 4days ago:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Croatia/law/4504
"Then it is proved that admins are doing romania favors.
Tóth TamÃ& ... I don't see the favor, but you allways have to blame the romanians.
Hehe, Rutakate, whats you opinion about the Croatian law?
I didn't know that the war declared by Serbia was stopped by admins ) I think the bloody romanians did that )
In fact you are right, The admins are romanians since this a romaninan game )))
...and Germany? Hungary not declared war with Germany.
And now, after the attack against Croatia: http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/550
You don't share an original border with Poland.
Maybe thats the reason the war didn't kick in?
we dont share original border with Germany either.
We dont border original german regions neither so it should hav started.
Then truly it was a miracle:)
For miracles one needs a divine power.
not miracle - BUG
Hát, a meglepetés ereje már oda, az tuti.
Peace Proposal
Proposed by Morreau, 15 minutes ago
The President of Hungary demanded a sum of 1 Gold from your National Treasury in return to a peace treaty with Croatia.
Do you agree?
How rude from hungarian side. You want now peace with Croatia and you DEMAND 1 gold for that instead to OFFER? Geez!!!!
I must admit. I'm insulted with that peace offer!
Peace Proposal
Proposed by Morreau, 15 minutes ago
The President of Hungary demanded a sum of 1 Gold from your National Treasury in return to a peace treaty with Croatia.
Do you agree?
lame....LOL
pure craziness )
"From Wiki:
Alliances
The Special Case
"A special case is encountered when a country borders the attacker that declared war on an allied country of it.
In this situation, a war is automatically opened between your country and the attacker. No Alliance will be activated for this secondary war.""
Lets see if quicksilver can read in english or she needs translation
There is written that "when a country borders the attacker that DECLARED war .." So when did Hungary DECLARED war to Croatia? NEVER!! So what about this special case?!
P.S. Quicksilver you remember me about atilaa who made a silly article complaining about bugs and admins who are protecting Romania regarding those 20000 IRR. Geez, now I can understand why both of you are in PEACE
Peace Proposal
Proposed by Morreau, 15 minutes ago
The President of Hungary demanded a sum of 1 Gold from your National Treasury in return to a peace treaty with Croatia.
Do you agree?
EPIC LULZ
"When the president of country A (can be also country B after 24 hours of inactivity) attacks for the first time in that war a region from country B, region that belongs in real life to country B and countries A and B didn't sign in the last 30 days a peace proposal the MPP countries of country B enter war with country A (the same way as happened in Beta: if they are neighbor countries will start a separate war, if not, the same war)."
Already the German war opened, but even if they changed it, a little notice perhaps?
"So when did Hungary DECLARED war to Croatia? NEVER!!"
...to Germany, also.
@Tankred:
well the war with Germany is questionable. If you look at that war page you may see also that you have a warwith Germnay coming from the FUTURE It has started on 4th of April 2009 )
Egyébként a tulajoknak (spanyolok) van róla fogalmuk, hogy milyen színvonalon végzik itt az adminok a munkájukat?
It's true, Han, LOL )
Han Solo and what about the Serbian - Romanian war? (started: 03 Mar 2009??) AND MPP activated wars may be interpreted as the attacking country declared the war (is on the left side on the wars list page ) like Serbia VS Romania
Ukraine-Romania war 03 Mar
Hungary-Romania war 08 Aug
etc.
day = Nr. of month
This is a very simple bug
@sanya:
the serbian - romanian war is from the first war declaration made by Serbia. That one which was canceled by admins. They should cancel the war between Serbia and Romania too, but they forgot or something Do not ask me. I'm not an admin and I do not want or need a war with Serbia. Our Croatian friends can handle it very well
Guy do not argue with Han Solo. Does not worth it. He is only a provocator. The best you can do is if you ignore him.
The point is, that all the bugs are implemented to help Romania. That's all.
The bugs are not implemented to help Romania, the bugs are simply there and active countries which involve themselves in all areas are more prone to come across them.
Han solo, although it says that way in wiki, Croatia - Serbia war and now this Hungarian attack proved that this special case activates when original regions are attacked (declaration of war doesn't matter)
Romania - Serbia appeared when Serbia attacked Slavonia
Hungary - Croatia appeared when Croatia attacked Vojvodina
Hungary - Germany appeared when Hungary attacked NW Croatia
admins and bugs help romaia, thats a sad fact