Enough talk, time for action
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Greetings. We're going to talk abut this MU situation again. However, this time we're going to offer a more direct solution instead of the waffle we've had before. Depending on the feedback we'll either see this through or we'll just hit the reset button and accept that this country is full of me feiners.
First a recap. As of yesterday here is where we are militarily as a country:
We rank #35 as of yesterday, and that's on a good day. So, we rank better than those world beaters New Serbland, Venezuela and Moldova. But please look at the gap between us and Australia, the currently wiped Australia. This is a gap we cannot close. Furthermore, because of our 20+ MU's we can't possibly hope to hit in any coordinated fashion. As a consequence we have all the fighting resilience of a wet paper bag.
We've talked about merging the MU's together into the IA, but according to a recent poll, those that bothered answering indicate that 44% don't want to merge MU's with only 33% voting for integration.
Also, certain people have indicated that for all my talk, perhaps I should be better leading from the front. So I should disband The Malcontents and join the IA as an example for all to follow.
Yeah. Right. So disband the biggest independent MU in Ireland as an example to us all. Let's just say that I am pretty sure that would suit a lot of people to the ground. But rather than be accused a hypocrite, let me put down the ground rules that would engender such a possibility.
We currently have a ridiculous situation whereby 24/7 we have members of the IA and MoD team handing out Q7 weapons to all and sundry as long as they fight for EDEN/government prios. In essence this seems like a good idea, but it's uncoordinated rabble. Over 24 hours we have people clocking on according to their time zones, putting in a modest amount of damage, in varying prios as the day goes on.
Furthermore, and critically, all these 20+ MU's are using these supplies donated by the Irish Government (= us) as a crutch to keep their MU's open. Current salaries will buy you 2x Q7 weapons a day. MU communes if they are in the MU's to begin with, are giving +4 Q7 weapons per day in profit. So is it any surprise that all these MU's can survive at all without #eire.supplies? No.
So here is how it works.
1From tomorrow #eire.supplies shuts down. It only opens for critical battles like RW's where Ireland is having issues or with actual wars like Poland - if that could be called a war
2The government will supply the IA exclusively as once it supplied #eire.military. These supplies will be given to the captains of each regiment. The captains will fill in the supply forms in terms of weapons given out, members that use them, and the battles and damage they did. This correctly puts the onus on the MU and not the MoD to do all the paperwork. The MoD can now concentrate on what it is supposed to do, military intelligence and military planning.
3MoD will vary the weapons handed out according to the supply forms. The IA can then coordinate the fights as they see fit in a coordinated fashion unlike the haphazard nonsense we have at the moment. If people want to avail of these free weapons they can join the IA
4With the free weapons gone, all MU's, even those with communes will find it very difficult to retain their members, at least those that want to max hit. Result? Fewer MU's or MU's with the heart ripped out of them.
5IA increases membership to bring them over the 50% population mark. They become the de facto MU in Ireland.
6Boot Camp gets a special mention in this. BC needs to be advertised more, it needs more articles, and the emphasis must be placed on all MU's to send their D1 recruits there. Why? Because BC represents the best chance of citizen retention. The side order on this is that when recruits leave BC they should be incentivised to go to the IA.
7The savings from shutting down #eire.supplies should be used to facilitate an airstrike programme. The MoD and the MoFA should spend the next term looking at potential strike possibilities with our partners.
8Finally, national strike night should be moved to Saturday or Sunday night to facilitate our chronologically challenged friends in North America. The now freed members of the MoD should spend a week planning the strike in conjunction with alliances and friends. In order for EDEN & Co to fight for us, we need to show that we are fighting for them.
Lastly. In case there is some confusion. The IA have one function and that is to do what the government tell them to do. It's as simple as that. The supplies all come from the government, that is, we the people, along with some very clever accountants.
The Malcontents will continue to recruit here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/group-show/2227?page=1
If you are D3 or D4, are Field Marshall+ and self-sufficent, then the biggest independent MU in Ireland is looking for new members.
This article in kindness to pinkerbell
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Nice article Malbekh, good job on taking the incentive on this issue o7, but seriously by now, you should know that there are alot of retards in eIreland
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Agree with moving everyone into the IA or some form like that, want to see the Bootcamp being fully funded because it is an excellent program.
Supplies within IA are done via normal supply channels, people come on IRC, fill in the form and supply team sends them. It was always a problem when the MoD or MoD's had to do the supplying but these days with the amount of active and hard working players we have it is grand to do this way.
Strikes need more planning but that has been sorted.
Agree with everything you said but would make one small change. The goverment would hand out iep to captains in the IA based on how many kills or active players there regiment had the day before. It is up to the captains to determine what to do with money. some might buy guns and hand out, some might help with training costs, some might finance bussiness. When people join the IA they could shop around a bit on what each captain is doing with the funds.
@WHS Well then, give us an alternative. Or are you saying that DIreland is a viable military force?
Great article. I agree 100% with this.
Dont agree with funds being handed out Moo tbh, dont want to see IA being brought into Political conflicts with people saying "well we give them money"
Ireland did her best work when everyone was in IA either supplied themselves or worked for them and there wasn't any conflicts over money.
Oh I will add one more thing on the day of our battle in N&L against ePoland we rose to rank #24, pretty impressive I believe we were right under eGermany or in that general area
As soon as (if) supplies are removed from citizens then the raison d'etre for our tax system is removed.
Also the hook that keeps our multiple MUs fighting per gov orders
If you want to break that.off you go but be aware of possible (likely) consequences
Before the system was implemented LA fought as the Commander set and we fought all over the eWorld
We did this on supplies that were less than the ICA and other MUs received
So my point is you are not going to improve matters but make it worse
WHS there is no gaurentee that they follow gov orders now anyways.
This country was at its best and peak when the IA was the main and near only MU.
I'm chronologically challenged. 🙁
Seems like a plan to me. Of course there could be unforeseen consequences but that happens with every plan. So we try it and see how it goes. Of course it will all be voluntary. No one can be forced to do anything.
Marcus...
Regardless of DOs we supply fighters but only if they follow orders. You also know that we send people to battles against their DOs. You now have a situation where these all fighters actually follow Gov orders over MU orders.
You want to change this? Many eCountries would love this situation.
Serously WHS?
95% of the damage output comes from IA, Malcontents, ICA and Libertad-Normal in that order. So 5% comes from the other 16+ MU's. If they all stopped fighting tomorrow in protest it would make ZERO difference in our output.
Cutting down on #eire.military frees up the MoD/IA who spend hours around the clock doling out supplies keeping these 16 MU's afloat. You know that The Malcontents are self-sufficient and I would suspect that Libertad are too.
I'm not so sure about the ICA but this is all about a start. If you want increased numbers of MU's then by all means keep it going. Surely even you can see the direct connection in the supply chain and otherwise uneconomic MU's?
Unless of course LA are using this as a crutch too, no?
total damage?
eh we have divisions
unless you now are writing off div 12 and maybe 3
Libertad-Ireland Are self sufficient , Always have been , But i , like other CO's do not have a problem with members claiming weapons when Orders coincide . It does not happen tho . (claiming weapons , not orders coinciding)
That's the only dog i have in this fight
, As a citizen of Ireland it makes sense that most of the population be in the state MU . Especially being so small a country . BUT we are a bunch o rebels , and you said it yourself before Mal http://tinyurl.com/bvs87jt
I completely disagree with this action. We are stunting our citizens growth and freedom of expression and affiliation. The government is not some foreign entity, it exists to serve the citizenry.Intentionally alienating groups of the population unless they conform to what you yourself said was an unpopular decision, is not a proper role of government.
I completely and wholeheartedly disagree with this course of action and although the practical benefits of integration are undoubtable....I call myself a supporter of military integration, forced denial of political and social expression and affiliation (to use Octavius' terms) is absolutely not something I could ever .''ripping the heart'' out of community MU groups by denying them weapons is absolutely not on...Particularly as a larger proportion of the population don't want integration.
Full support!
I would just change ur way of doing this a little, but generally I agree wholeheartedly!
Independent MU? Definition please...
All MU's which cannot supply the top amount of weapons should not exist if we were to get all Darwinian. ICA provides Q7 to our members, IA provide Q7 members, Malcontents...feed off gold buyers, etc
I agree with you, Mal. I think it would work well.
Mal's right about everything, but I still don't think a bloated/merged IA is the best use of govt funds.
Govt should only fund screenshot proofs of damage done for eIre. When you cba to supply that, you should get nothing.
Overcomplications are *facepalm* and supply teams on-call 24/7 is stone-age use of resources.
moo's suggestion of currency is also a good one. The only people objecting to this will be the ones who are currently supplying the civil service weaps.
I like the independence of individual MUs but obviously the current situation isn't working.
Let's try combining forces and see if the situation improves.
For all you whiners let me point out some salient facts:
The people who are whining here are all in smaller MU's and thus have most to lose
If you want freedom of expression that's what political parties are for
The government exists to do what is best for the country, having 20+ MU's isn't
People need to put their country first and their own agendas second
D1 and D2 are critically important in close campaigns, but D3 and D4 win them 90% of the time any other mantra is bullshit
Malbekh, it isnt whining when my tax dollars are being spent in a discriminatory manner. I have always followed MoD orders with my dispatch, and I dont see how me being part of a smaller MU hurts the country. Simple fact is if I can't get the weapons when I am online I wont fight with them, which hurts my growth, which, in the context of many people facing the same dilemma, hurts the countries growth. The government exists to serve the people of the country, not eden or our allies exclusively.
the needs of the country confuse me, were our needs to fight poland and then surrender? because we did a great job with that! Or are our needs to allow each eIrish citizen the chance to rank up and provide improved fire power to our cause? We wont get that when we force people to not fight for TP medals.Realize you are playing with our taxes, and denying almost 50% of the responsive country of their wishes. Why hold a poll if you act contrary to its findings?
Let's make this simple then, in RL no country can be a military threat if it has 20+ armies. Thus, this is the case in eIreland. Anyone with a brain can see this. As the one-eyed man in the land of the blind my job is to point out the bleeding obvious. Now, if you still think having a fractured MU structure and a incoherent, expensive, time-consuming supply system is a good thing, then God help us if you ever become MoD. Ultimately it is the government and congress that makes this decision...
...but you can't have a democratic MU structure. How can an army exist where all soldiers are equal? Where all MU's are equal. Army is a meritocracy where the best soldiers lead and have full control. Not wishy-washy muppets who think fighting Poland is a good idea.
Putting it more simply, it is your patriotic duty to put your country before politics and personal gain. All the whiners here are failing on that ground alone. But don't worry, the next CP will keep the status quo I'm sure of it.
Oh, and another thing. Don't give me any guff about democratic surveys, it's all BS. Consider this survey:
Do you want to lose your MU identity and merge with the IA to become another cog in the wheel for the Irish military? No thanks.
Are you prepared to make a personal sacrifice that sees Ireland become a military force to be reckoned with using a supply system that rewards activity and commitment? Yes please.
Both the same question, just worded differently.
Surveys are all about how the questions are framed to suit the ones implementing the survey in the first place.
I'm not eIrish but I fully agree with this article.eIreland needs to be more organised,at least to control its original regions and Britannia.
Agree 100% great article
It was about time somone remove that free crap......Real Libertad coudn't care less...
Hell is freezing again...Kurgan agrees with Mal...
Rather than force a change on people who don't want that change, why not make the National Strike we had last week a more frequent thing, maybe daily or even twice daily, to bring the community more together? It wasn't perfect, but it was good fun and would get a better attendance the more established it became?
Just wrote out a response and for whatever reason, it deleted it.. Recap of it is..
Disagree that this is better for Ireland. Anyone receiving free weapons understands that those weapons need to go towards whatever the priority set by the Gov't is. Second note that I can remember was that I am more active, and fight more now that I am a member of a smaller MU than I ever did when I was in IA, because now it means something to me if our MU climbs the ranks.
who's pinkerbell?
All of what Malbekh said x2, military and politics never mix and should never be mixed between the two, thats the same reason eIreland is stuck in the position it is in now, the general overall, for a lack of a better term, wimpiness of a couple of the previous eIrish governments in regards to military affairs has been astonishing, weak government is weak government, couldn't even support a position on the ePolish conflict. Just like RL the military isnt the place for weakness, or personal freed
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@DA I hear what you're saying. However, it's not possible to coordinate strikes in a war with 20+ MU's. Forget about organised strikes, that's easy to do, but in a campaign the damage fluctuates and so does the requirements. For example, I would say a large number of people here still hit even if the wall is over 55%.
You can only this to work with a national army taking priority over friends, morals, perspectives and philosophies. Surely all of you can see that turning up....
...at random times over a 24 hour period ensures a totally random damage that has very little impact in real terms. It also makes us look complete ladyboys as far as our MPP and alliance friends are concerned. Let's say we do 130m per day. That 130m is divided into about 5-6 prios over 24 hours with maybe 16 different battles. How on earth is that supposed to be tactically led? It's a joke, no wonder we are looked upon as lightweights
It is possible to reorganise the IA. I'm sure Thanatos would step aside if people wanted a different commander (not me - as if). You can also set up divisions where like-minded recruits and captains will be. Seriously, anyone whining on this thread are showing themselves to be me first and country second.
ummm this isnt real life? And this sure as hell isnt a rl military scenario ha. Still think this is a horrible idea, and when it fails to make us a great military power (I use that term super loosely) you may end up agreeing with me 😉
Well, I wouldn't worry about that, people are far more concerned about themselves to worry about improving our military prowess. You get what you aspire to, and we seem to aspire to being weak
look like ladyboys?
LOL
definitely a bunch of ladyboys.
I can send over a manicurist, and someone to help with blending the foundation lines.....
As a supplier I could actually bring out stats of who recieves supplies and what MU they are a part of. So far as I know not many people actually ask for supplies and those that do fight where we tell them to fight. Also I am against this idea as well because even though I am a part of the government and a captain of the IA as well as a supplier I do not agree with the government imposing its control over everyone.