eJapan - eROC Peace
Sumeragi Akeiko
The conflict between eJapan and eROC is near an end.
Terms
1. Release all land except Chugoku for eJP
2. eJP pay 450 gold for eROC within one month (preferably before Congress elections)
3. eROC rents Chugoku, and eJP helps eROC in Chugoku RWs when there is danger of success. Rent rate is 0/20/30/40/40/40~ gold, with each segment being a month.
4. eROC help eJP reback TEDEN
5. eJP help eROC RW in eSK.
Currently the eROC Congress has passed the above terms after much argument on their end. The eJapanese Congress is currently voting on this. We expect the eJapanese vote to be over in less than 24 hours.
It has been a long process coming to this point, as many of you might know. Furthermore, there has always been a party advocating war on both sides, which caused much agony in discussions. Still, more logical heads have come through to this point, and now it is up to eJapan to end this.
I understand that there are quite a few people who are against any sort of renting out ot regions, and also those that believe eROK is an ally and that we must fight with them. However, the past is the past, the present is the present. We must stick to what is reality, and operate on that particular sphere. The above terms are the result from the best of my abilities. I hope you understand and support them.
Our country has gone through a lot of troubles. But now, the end of darkness is near, when we shall be a shining light in this world. Working for peace and prosperity of East Asia, I hope that eJapan realizes its position and potential, and walk down the right path.
Comments
"I hope that eJapan realizes its position and potential, and walk down the right path."
I hope so too.
Voted)
It's quite hilarious that this is being posted after the information was sent to be by a concerned citizen and I brought it up to Sumeragi. They asked me to hide this information till after the elections, why would they do that? I of course told them no and gave them the ultimatum to post the peace terms or I would.
Perhaps so, Alfred Ball, but then I'm not the one breaking protocols and bashing accountability. Also, perhaps the following logs might show your bluff:
13:55 Sumeragi_Akeiko Please continue your line of thought
13:55 Sumeragi_Akeiko although I should really ask you where you got that information
13:55 Alfred-Ball I will in my article
13:55 Alfred-Ball That I however will not disclose
13:56 Sumeragi_Akeiko I would like you to withhold the article for 24 hours
13:56 Alfred-Ball Lolno
Seems like we have a strong case of a Congress member who talks about accountability but does not do so himself. If such tactics results in the same way eJapan fell, then I can only say those who shouted for eJapan's freedom only brought about its destruction.
>4. eROC help eJP reback TEDEN
they can't even get in officially themselves
This is a game, I would rather eJapan retain it's pride then being sold like a cheap hooker.
lol...
Sounds like a fair compromise to me, good work.
Sumeragi Akeiko +1)
>2. eJP pay 450 gold for eROC within one month (preferably before Congress elections)
>3. eROC rents Chugoku,
>We pay their rent
why?
Thank you for your effort for our nation!
我が国のためのご尽力ありがとうございました!
o7
eROC pays the rent, Fruitcommando.
Well the deal isn't the best for us, but it isn't that bad as well.
lolwut?
No, we're essentially paying the rent.
We give them 450g the first month, they pay 0 gold first month. For the next five months they only use 170g of the 450g we gave them to keep our region. The fact you agreed to it being as low as 20g is hilarious, and the maximum you could get was 40g a month? Really?
Adding this together, it would take 1 year and 1 month for them to pay back to us /our/ measly 450g, but they spend nothing of their own money to actually keep the region.
you misunderstand, we pay taiwan 450 gold which in turn pays their rent for months.
And somehow the citizens of eJapan find this to be a good compromise when we're being assisted by a country that can't even get into TEDEN itself (note, no one in TEDEN actually likes or values eROCs opinion). We also have to fight /for them/ to keep their empire in Chugoku as well as in eSK (why are we being forced to help them fight in eSK? That isn't our issue whatsoever, its their war not ours).
These terms are ridiculous and the fact everyone is simply going with this without question truly explains /why/ we're giving you all such a hard time. You guys act as if you're incredibly intelligent and you know what you're doing and all you got us was this crap term agreement and our butt-cheeks spread.
So before you try pulling some crap of how we don't "know anything" or how you've been busting your butt for six hours and we need to stop complaining, maybe you should not practically sell our countries integrity for 450g and make us an eROC colony simply because you're horrible at math and a shotty politician.
Thank you for not running a second term, christ.
There is one nation that values eROC's opinion, and that is ePRC. If you bothered to read our discussions, you should have noted that ePRC is the key to our getting off the EDEN blacklist, and their sole real reason was because of eROC being against that. Removed that blockage, and then we're off the blacklist.
Not to mention that it throws away our values, We have always fought aggressors who wished to conquer other countries, by helping them occupy eSK we have effectively destroyed our culture. I would rather be wiped than betray everything that eJapan has worked to maintain.
the ePRC values eROC's opinion less than anyone else, when they made territory gain in Philippines the PRC demanded they pull out of Philippines so they could attack Indonesia, shows how much you know lol.
Furthermore, both Fruitcommando and Nowe should remember the invasion of eROK under Danyeo's administration. That was a blatant aggressive move, and no matter how you want to spin it, the supposed integrity and values which you say you support has not existed for more than two years. Unfortunately, it's just like I said several times: You're living in an idealistic world which no longer exists.
I never said anything about eROK so don't try to spin it either. You're dodging everything that really matters with crap reasoning. Explain WHY we are forced to fight for eROC against eSK when it isn't even our war. For someone who goes on about how we were eSK's colony you certainly have painted us as eROC's own. Own up and stop trying to act as if you actually know what the hell you're doing.
Help doesn't necessarily mean fight against eROK. I would have thought you realized that by now. Furthermore, there is been a MPP between eJapan and eROC in the works. Unless you're against allying with eROC in the first place, why would you not consider fighting for a potential ally?
Also allow me to point out due to your blatant regard for misleading information. We invaded eSK under danyeo due to eSK being PTO'd by Romania. We were /asked/ to invade eSK to rid them of FSR so that the South Korean community could actually stand a chance against Romania's botnets. I'm getting really sick and tired of your half-truths and your tale spinning Sumeragi, it's really immature and unprofessional.
In what way in hell are we ALLIES in this scenario, Sumeragi. Actually explain how us giving them 450g that they use for 13 months to keep our region for free while we're dictated to "help" then in eSK as well as keep our region while they give us nothing in return makes us "allies".
As MoD during the invasion of SK let me say that we absolutely accomplished our war goals, which was to incite a baby boom in SK and turn it into a real nation. Sadly, what usually happens did, and the established nations didn't bother forming real friendships with the new power and the whole thing led us to where Japan is now.
I hope it works.
wtf? o_O
@ We have always fought aggressors who wished to conquer other countries
Where were you when the war started? Oh I almost forgot, you were in Austria! Thanks for being so helpful in "fighting off the aggressors".
@Nowe
Think of it as the price we pay for helping eSK. If you think it's all righteous for eJapan at that time for helping eSK, then you would also need to admit that by choosing to help eSK at that war, we made Taiwan our enemy.
I fought for Japan when they were invaded, Chise. The thing about erep is it's a videogame so you can fly across the world within a minute
450 gold,mkay,but still okay 😶
@fruit
By that I mean to be active and attempted to stop the process, participate in the aftermath of the storm, instead of just claiming that you have silently clicked the "fight" button, and showing up again only after 4 months have passed.
This might work but then again it might not.
Chise, you know, you didn't do much either for eJapan in the past either so its a two way street. You were an extremely large two clicker and you didn't bother getting involved on forums or IRC often to at all; so let's not play the past card. The only reason you're MoFA is because your Taiwanese, not due to talent. Let's keep that in memory.
I also never said we were "righteous". We did our duty to an ally, and we made an enemy? Is that our fault how?
You are only deflecting the question: WHY are we being asked to assist eROC to keep their foreign regions? It is NOT our fight and it should NOT be a term for peace, we are NOT their soldiers and allies are NOT found this way. Simply saying "we don't have to" or "just don't put our a lot of damage" is NOT going to cut it. It's written and accepted by the international community at large.
Simply because you make an enemy and lose to them does NOT mean you sell out yourself and your previous allies. There's an option called staying NEUTRAL in their conflict. So again, a two way street. Stop trying to deflect questions with petty reasoning.
Neutrality was exactly what got us into this position. Furthermore, the previous ally has already written eJapan off.
Neutrality is not what got us into this position. I would know considering eJapan has been a neutral nation for majority of its standing and has always done perfectly fine while staying out of conflict. Once more, certain Presidents need to own up to the fact they had a horrid policy and dropped the ball on more than one occasion, which has gotten us to this point.
PEACE WAR FOUND
These terms are unacceptable. EJapan is being sold out like a sidewalk hooker. I will not rest until all of EJapan is under one glorious Japanese flag. No negotiating Japan is a free nation and as long as I and anyone else who believes in this cause still holds a breath it will stay this way.
These terms are unacceptable.
I think it's true for Taiwanese, too.
@Nowe
ESK is at ONE side , u said they are ur ally, and u want to join TEDEN?
lol
Wow does no one read?
I said FORMER ally. Jesus christ. I also never said I wanted to join TEDEN.
So, /lol/.
Wow
someone cant tell the meaning of "u"
lol
u may free jeju now,
if u still have ur head.
What even.
Don't speak English you no comprehende its meanings.
Newfag here.
With what feels like such an ill-supported treaty, it's probable some Charismatic Warmonger is going to come along and start up resistance wars anyway and this treaty is only going to lose you some gold and gain nothing besides make eJapan look bad on the diplomatic front.
Newfag out.