eIreland: Our Military Units Do Not Work and Need to be Merged
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by Death and Taxes
Hello again.
The third and last article based on my research is here. Having decidedly proven that Ireland is in fact made up of a happy melting pot of nationalities, the largest being Irish here: End of PTO rubbish , and then given a comprehensive review of Irish MU's by division and activity here hmm...pizza, this last article is a flavour text piece by up yours truly designed to make the readers think.
It's also designed to prompt all our many CP candidates to make their opinions on MU mergers known, and if they agree with this, how they actually intend doing it.
Each and every CP candidate has made it known that they intend declaring an NE during their term of office and presumably back it up with an actual military campaign that involves conquering stuff. This is vitally important as citizens are bored, citizens are fighting amongst themselves, and worst of all, citizens are leaving.
eIreland is a pretty small nation that doesn't particularly fight very well. The only reason we are not wiped at the moment is down to our good relations with certain superpowers, an alliance with EDEN, and an astute peace treaty with eUK thanks to Chewie.
In the forthcoming campaigns we are going to sell ourselves drastically short in battles unless we can organise ourselves. This is particularly so because of the rule changes in the war module with divisional battles and rockets. We need a unified command with a clear linear role for all soldiers and divisions.
As you can see from the above pizzas, Boot Camp should remain looking after all Division I recruits. The ICA and LA already send all Division I recruits there and all other units should do the same.
Labour's Army can remain in name, but it should now become exclusively a Division II unit.
Irish Army should stay as is and become a Division III unit.
Finally the ICA should become our elite Division IV unit.
No if's
No and's
No but's
This is a very simple alignment. I have not included Libertad because I am assuming they wish to remain independent. Besides which, the unit would have to disband and disperse to the other units above.
This is simply a case of genuine patriotism. You will forego your unit, perhaps go to a unit that you might despise, and fight under a commander you might have no respect for. Well tough titties, that's war soldier.
We need the CP's to make a commitment to this, or come up with their own suggestion, or say they will retain the status quo. We need the commanders and ex-commanders do the same.
Have a nice day now.
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Interesting idea Malbekh, voted
This is an idea I could see working very well. I would definitely form a panel to look at this sort of thing and see how this could work out. Thanks so much for gathering such detailed information.
Nice presentation Mal! i think it would work well if people go with it.
Nice eye-candy, but a pity he's a blonde : [
As I'm not involved in an Irish MU atm, I have nothing to say on the matter.
Nice idea, I had talk about this with bean&teddy lately...
Grainne, it's an opinion piece. You have an opinion regardless of whether you are resident or a member os an MU here.
Great idea
I think having a single MU for each division is a great idea.
great idea with great problems
but doable
The largest hurdle would be attitudes. Good thing no one around here has one. lol
I don't see how a CP is going to herd this clowder
yay! there was talk of this when new war module came about. WHS was CP then and i think this was agreed upon as best idea, but thot impossible to implement at the time. Maybe time is ripe... voted
@Anthony I read articles just to see your replies these days xD
Irish Army and Irish Citizen Army are also the only military units currently with the capability to house more than one division with proper reorganizing - why restrict themselves when its smaller MUs who are being inefficient? : 3
Plus, if everyone took the stance you are suggesting Libertad would likely take, then this idea has already been dropped.
Everyone should join the IA. Anyone should be able to set up a regiment in the IA as there own MU. It would be easier to control orders, better cuminication, allow for new young leaders to organize and lead, and provide healthy competion between groups.
They way you make this happen is only fund the captains in the IA based on how many people fought that day. Captains that make the best use of the funds will have the best regiments and get reelected. Tell all captains first 25 fights are for the goverment and then they can do what they like.
IMO, moomoohead's way is the best and only way this will ever get implemented in eIreland
Yes, moo is exactly right. We've already had this discussion before and the idea works beautifully as evidenced by a successful execution of a congress war for Paraguay a few days ago. It's not my idea, so I wasn't going to claim it.
You delineate the candidates by kicking and then inviting them into the correct division. It works exceptionally well because as moo says, it breeds competition, and competition is good, very good.
The issue is not so much would it work
But are people patriotic enough to make it work?
The other issue is, who will be the commander?
I'd say either the CP or the MoD be the commander. Ethos of the Irish Army is duty to the elected and state, although its rare CP or MoD have been the commander.. I'd say the entire army should decide.
Merger wont work
Personally, I agree with Seanan, CP or MoD should be the commander, unless neither wants the role then someone experienced who has commanded an MU before should be commander IMO
"The largest hurdle would be attitudes"
I don't think that is true tbh, at least not in a negative way. Regardless of level/rank/strength, some people will just feel more at home in a certain MU than others. Telling people what MU they have to go to is Authoritarian. I've no problem with that myself, but seeing as there's an upsurge in feeling among many e-Irish experts that democracy, freedom of choice, transparency and all that muck
I think the idea has potential, but I'm not sure you'd be able to get folks to cooperate. I'm still fairly new to eIreland, but I've noticed that any activity, other than hitting the pub, much resembles herding a flock of cats into a lough.
is the way forward for Ireland then I'm sure this idea will be shot down by these people. Afterall they've spent many many years suffering oppression under mean Dictators who have destroyed their gaming experience. I fear that their need to escape the shackles of bondage will result in them rejecting these plans ; )
The eUS has already done this. I'm surprised it took you guy this long to come up with it. O.O
Bc>state army> rocket/mobile troops
It's rather amusing that since this article we now have even more Military Units...
Oh well, if you can't beat them...
"It's rather amusing that since this article we now have even more Military Units..." x2
Ironic isn't it lol
Actually, I love irony. Good luck with the MU Mike
Thanks Malbekh, best of luck commanding your new one aswell 🙂 o7
Considering the ICA has been around longer than the Irish Army, is more efficient than the Irish Army (was, dunno whats happening atm), is more powerful than the Irish Army, has more resources than the Irish Army and has more member than the Irish Army I fail to see why the ICA should have to amalgamate into the IA and not the other way around.
The ICA is clearly the most professional MU in Ireland and has been for along time. We can educate and help our members military and politically.
We are essentially a Party and an MU in one and it works well. Just look at the past Country Presidents, Ministers which have been ICA taught.
This is all based @moo's comment. I would support the idea put forward by this article.
Well OJ, if we had just one main MU then it really doesn't matter what it's called. We all serve under one MU for Ireland, nothing else
"(was, dunno whats happening atm)"
>is in it
>is advocating it as best
>doesn't know what's going on in his own MU
More irony, you pleaser-teaser.