EDEN, We Have a Problem! [EN/HR]
Day 1,273, 03:27
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by Janko Fran
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I had a dream,
and in this dream
I was riding a bicycle,
and on my shoulder was a little Hitler
who was yapping at my ears, really angry.
And then I woke up and thought,
let's make a film about Nazis from the Moon!
by Jarmo Puskala, Iron Sky Community Manager
I had a dream! / I had a nightmare!
IRON SKY
Satirical SF comedy
Scene from the film: Zündapp KS 750 Wehrmacht Sidecar driving on the Moon Surface
Iron Sky: The First Four Minutes
Yes, she can! The Eagle has landed, Baby! Music: Laibach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laibach_(band)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volk_(album)
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/iron-sky-original-film-soundtrack/id515197819
Problems, Big Time! / Schwarze Sonne
http://songs.to/#!pl=84c8dd82f451226dac018428dabbda08554890e6
Preventive war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventive_war
UN Security Council Confessions
http://songs.to/#!pl=c605e95b333fdb86582bb062bb2de3f0f78fdd7b
The Great Dictator - Charles Chaplin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NtBnaarXfg&feature=related
125 Minutes Later...
Laibach - The Answer To The Question
http://songs.to/#!pl=d496e06cacfee97483d7a0ad878ef14a17193e4e
Izvrsna satirična SF komedija u stilu Nemilosrdnih gadova, hommage Chaplinovom filmu Veliki diktator. Drugi film finskog redatelja V.
O slijepoj ambiciji i o slijepoj zanesenosti.
Iron Sky - Interview mit Götz Otto (Deutsch) [HD]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdtjSZnA4xg&feature=related
Julia Dietz-Iron Sky Interview and Trailer Segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSbtgpUGBi0&feature=related
Interview with Jarmo Puskala
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jos5By7sfAg
READeR
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Houston, we have a problem!
EDEN, We Have a Problem
Open Letter to EDEN and eWorld Public
eEgypt on the Day 1,273
As you can see on the eWorld map, eEgypt is down to a single region, which is also under a heavy Greek attack. We are expecting eEgypt to fall during the day, unless a miracle happens.
Here is a copy of talks between eEgyptian and eGreek government representatives, and a summary of the war and difficult situation in eEgypt, caused by bad attitude of Greek government towards eEgypt.
Here are the latest talks with Greeks: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f5gsjvWV
I won't be going much into details, but Greeks didn't honor their own deal with eEgypt. eGreece has proclaimed NE on eEgypt and attacked it without a cause, although eEgypt is proEDEN country, which had only EDEN and Terra MPPs (China, USA, Brazil). During attack on eEgypt, Greeks have deliberately lost two od total 3 MPPs signed by eEgypt, due to MPP colision. Doing that, eGreece has harmed not only to itself and to eEgypt, but also to other members of EDEN and Terra (China and Brazil).
However, inspite that, we managed to negotiate a deal which would give to Greeks everything they need and everything eEgypt can offer to Greece; Greece gets Lower Egypt and Sinai in order to connect to their colony regions in Saudi Arabia, Greece also gets Middle Egypt (Cattle), and Egypt should have got Al Qasim (grain) and Al Madinah (oil) which Greeks have in surplus and don't need.
Greeks won three battles, which they supposed to win, but when we should have got Al Madinah, they wouldn't allow it and they made a counterattack. Not only that, but now they offer us nothing more than deletion, although we want to sign peace (it has been more than a week from declaring NE on eEgypt).
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength
In the mean time, eEgypt wanted to sign MPP with Croatia and Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) and all sides, eGreece, eCroatia and eRepublic of Macedonia (FYROM) were notified of our plans and agreed. Doing that would secure us enough of strength to overturn the Greek aatack and get Al Madinah and Al Qasim battles. If we signed a MPP with Croatia, Greece would lose another MPP and harm to itself, to Croatia and to whole EDEN, that's why we have decided to wait with Croatian MPP after signing peace with Greece, but Greece refused such proposal. Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) offered us help and as we didn't have much choice, we have accepted their offer.
Except that, eGreece has practically whole set of EDEN MPPs, except Australia and Norway. Since Australia and Norway are currently not in position to make a decisive influence in our "region swap war" with eGreece, and by signing any other MPP with EDEN memeber, there would be damage done to EDEN, due to MPP collision, while we expected another attack of eGreece. So that is why we have decided to accept help from Republic of Macedonia, who was the only country who offered us a MPP in this difficult moment of a struggle for Egypt survival.
And by this Greeks are doing both short term and a long term harm to EDEN because they are pushing away from them and from EDEN a friendly proEDEN country. The same already happened to eSaudi Arabia, which was also made by force to change sides. I still hope that it would not happen to eEgypt, because there was a lot of effort invested in it by Croatian side, and it seems to me that eCroatia gave up from eEgypt instead protecting its long term interests and creating allies in long term.
Child of Eden (Trailer)
Child of Eden (Trailer)
For your information, Egypt has population of 80 million and currently it has 11.5 million of Internet users and is a fastest growing internet community in Middle East, and there is at least 200 million of Arabs scattered around the world. What eEgypt needs is a baby boom, and for preparing one, you need peace, and for making one, you need a war.
However, if we invite Egptians and other Arabs while eEgypt is under Greek occupation, I am afraid that this fact will alienate and make Egyptians hostile to Greece and by this also to EDEN. I believe that eCroatia made a similar mistake with Serbia and Slovenia, same as eGreece is doing now with eSaudi Arabia and eEgypt. And all this because of short term parcial interests and not seing long term perspective of eEgypt and eMiddle East region and wrong foreign policy.
I don't know if leadership of EDEN understands that. As it seems to me, all decisions are based on current power ratio, hard negotiating attitude and without a long term strategy. I believe that makes great harm to EDEN. An example of such behavior was Romanian toughness in combination with Hungarian-Serbian sweet talk diplomacy, which drove Poland and Spain from EDEN, and consequently the Swedish leaf fell off from EDEN tree. Direct consequence of such power shift it that now, instead swift and easy deletion of Serbia and Hungary, EDEN has to make great efforts to win each battle, and eCroatia lost its allies strength which made it unconquerable fortress for Serbia and Hungary, so now it has to be lenient even in front of eGreece, which has gotten disdainful, arrogant and greedy, since their geostrategic position has changed with eBulgaria swithicing sides, and by adding new Arab countries rich in resources.
This is a warning to eCroatia, EDEN and all the other e-countries to be careful when making deals with Greeks. The thing we have learned is that Greeks can't be trusted, as much as we didn't want to admit it to ourselves, and as much as we are proEDEN. It seems that EDEN leadership just doesn't care about that. But I am afraid that consequences of such wrong, shortsighted and selfish politics, would feel all EDEN country members. For it seems there is no more brotherhood in EDEN.
Big Brother is Watching You (1984)
Faithfully yours!
Janko Fran
Minister of Communications and Information Technology of eEgypt
List of Greek Excuses
#1 MPP with Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) http://www.erepublik.com/en/Egypt/law/73967
#2 Greece spent 600 gold to win a battle for Egypt and Egypt is pathetic and liars
#3 Greece doesn't want to delete Egypt, but Egypt can't defend against Greece and 15 MPPs.
#4 INCIs will occupy Egypt
#5 Egypt choose ONE, Egypt doesn't know anything about plans behind curtain.
#6 Egypt said Macedonia, Egypt doesn't know anything.
#7 Egypt is PTOed by Croats
Facts
#1 Greece declared Egypt as NE 8 days ago without prior notice, negotiations or any provocations from Egypt side:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Greece/law/73400
#2 Greece lost an EDEN (China) and a Terra MPP (Brazil) for attack on Egypt and collision with Egypt MPPs (USA, Brazil, China).
#3 Greece broke its own deal which guaranteed Greece everything they needed and Egypt could offer:
Lower Egypt and Sinai (bridge to eMiddle East and Greek colonies there), Middle Egypt (cattle) in exchange for Al Qasim (grain) and Al Madinah (oil)
#4 Greece is not satisfied and wants more. Greece proposed deletion or appointing a Greek for president of eEgypt.
#5 Greece is deleting eEgypt.
Maybe it's not appropriate to laugh in such a situation, but you need to see what are we facing with. If you want to enjoy more Greek trolling, please visit:
http://www.erepublik.com/en?viewPost=879297
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EDEN, We Have a Problem
Otvoreno pismo EDENu i ehrvatskoj javnosti
Egipat na dan 1,273
Kao što možete vidjeti na karti eSvijeta, eEgipat je sveden na samo jednu regiju, koja je trenutno pod teškim napadom Grčke. Očekuje se pad Egipta tijekom dana, osim ako se ne dogodi čudo.
Ovdje je preslika obavljenih pregovora između predstavnika vlada eEgipta i eGrčke, te sažeti opis rata i krizne situacije u Egiptu, koja je uzrokovana lošim odnosom vlade eGrčke prema eEgiptu.
Evo najsvježiji pregovori s Grcima...
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f5gsjvWV
Neću sad ići u sve detalje, no Grci se nisu držali dogovora. Proglasili su NE i napali eEgipat bez povoda, iako je eEgipat proEDEN zemlja i imao je samo EDEN i Terra MPPove (Kina, SAD, Brazil). Prilikom napada na eEgipat, Grci su izgubili dva od ukupno 3 MPPova koliko ih je Egipat imao ukupno. Time je Grčka naštetila ne samo sebi i Egiptu, nego i drugim članicama EDENa i Terre (Kina i Brazil).
Ipak, unatoč tome, uspjeli smo dogovoriti deal koji Grcima daje sve što im treba i sve što im Egipat može uopće ponuditi; Grci dobivaju Lower Egypt i Sinai kako bi povezali svoje regije u Saudijskoj Arabiji, dobivaju Middle Egypt (Cattle), a Egipat je trebao dobiti Al Qasim (grain) i Al Madinah (oil) koji Grcima ne trebaju.
Grci su dobili tri bitke, koje su i trebali dobiti, no kad smo mi trebali preuzeti Al Madinah, nisu to dopustili i prešli su u kontra napad. Sad nam nude brisanje iako bismo mi htjeli potpisati mir (prošlo je tjedan dana od proglašenja NE).
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength
U međuvremenu smo htjeli potpisati MPP s Hrvatskom i Republikom Makedonijom kako bismo dobili dovoljno snage da dobijemo bitke u Al Madinah i Al Qasim. Kad bismo potpisali MPP s Hrvatskom Grčka bi izgubila još jedan MPP i time naštetila opet sebi, Hrvatskoj i cijelom EDENu, zato smo odlučili s njim pričekati kad sklopimo mir s Grcima, no oni to ne žele. Makedonija se sama ponudila za MPP, i budući da nismo imali puno izbora, prihvatili smo pomoć.
Inače, Grčka ima praktički cijeli skup MPPova EDENa, osim Australije i Norveške. Budući da Australija i Norveška trenutno nisu u poziciji napraviti prevagu u swap region ratu protiv Grčke, a potpisivanjem bilo kojeg drugog MPPa iz EDENa činili bismo štetu EDENu zbog kolizije MPPova, jer smo očekivali novi napad Grčke, odlučili smo prihvatiti pomoć Makedonije koja nam je jedina ponudila MPP u ovom teškom trenutku borbe za opstanak.
A Grci ovime dugoročno štete EDENu jer odguruju od sebe i od EDENa jednu prijateljsku proEDEN zemlju. Isto se već dogodilo i eSaudijskoj Arabiji koja je isto na sličan način natjerana da promijeni stranu. Još uvijek se nadam da se to eEgiptu neće dogoditi jer je u njega uloženo puno truda s hrvatske strane, a Hrvatska mi se čini kao da je digla ruke od eEgipta umjesto da štiti svoje dugoročne interese i stvara saveznike dugoročno.
Srdačno vaš,
Janko Fran
Minister of Communications and Information Technology of eEgypt
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vote, nije mi jasno zasto to grci rade, a i ovi nasi analni alpinisti, od grcke smo najmanje pomoci dobivali sve ovo vrijeme, trebamo nekog ko ce znat lupit sakom o stol i rec dosta
arapi su okupirali egipat!
pravda za kopte, jedine i prave egipcane!
Greece does not care, they are doing what they did to turkey.
Ne veruj Grcima ni kad darove nose : P
Ma bas te briga Janko, postaces ministar u egzilu. Uostalom, mozda Grci samo kopiraju "arapsko prolece" iz RL : )
stop whining for god sake
a ti oktam lool, od grcke smo dobijali sasvim dovoljno pomoci, sta trebamo grcku mjenjati za potencijalnu naklonost eventualnog/fiktivnog egipatskog stanovnistva nakon eventualnog/fiktivnog baby booma ?
da vas nesto naucim ? ako i dodje do takvog baby booma , vi koji ste sada na vlasti ce te postati nitko i nista, ukljucujuci i "prave" egipcane sa kojima djelite vlast, nece nikoga biti briga za "epovijest" , uzmite poljake i njihove pridoslice, zbog njih je poljska i izasla iz eden.a, makar je bila masa starijih igraca protiv toga, ove jednostavno nije bilo briga za neku "epovijest" u kojoj nisu sudjelovali
stoga prestanite uvlaciti hrvatsku u ovaj sukob i rusiti odnose sa grckom, nemozete ocekivati da ce zemlja sa 50-100 igraca zivjeti dugo slobdna, ako vas ne pokori grcka doci ce netko drugi...
when u deside not to play in both tables then we can talk Jakno . From the start we have been facing a new demand every day from u guys and until now we havent found a single , serious and valid negotiator from your side ...
WTF r you say? -.-
If you cannot win battles that you only have to fight against BH hunters, there is nothing t be done about you. You made an act of war http://www.erepublik.com/en/Egypt/law/73967 . What did you expect, roses?
Meni nije do vlasti tako da mi nije bitno da budem netko i nešto, a poljska greška se uz pametniju politiku mogla izbjeći...
Tako je, isto vrijedi i za eHrvatsku... Doći će netko jači i pokoriti je jer će uskoro ostati bez saveznika...
erase egypt!!
heavy Greek attack?? 0_o
That is not true. We didn't wanted that regions. You lost them because you dont have people to hit in battles. Your influence was minimal. You were pathetic. Half of greece were fighting with you against our country. Be fair. Your problem is lack of people and low influence. But after MPP with Fyrom forget EDEN. Stop that. We dont want that useless regions. You can take them back with RW. Get more people to the game... and be realistic and fair.
Ne se nervirajte eGrcite sega i krivi ke ve napravat zatoa so ve brisat 😉
na krajot ce vi kazat i deka treba da platite, toa mu e u krvta na sekoj grk.
o/
hrvatska nece uskoro ostati bez saveznika, ostala bi da se vanjska politika vodi na nacin koji je vi vodite, a i suludo je da egipat usporedjujete sa hrvatskom, pogledajte istini u oci, na koji vi nacin ocekujete zadrzati tu zemlju ? diplomacijom sa oba saveza ? nemoguce...
zemlje vece od egipta nestaju svaki dan a imaju mpp.ove od jednog ili drugog saveza, jednostavno jezgru obrane svake zemlje cini njezino stanovnistvo pa onda mpp.ovi , vi nemate vlastito stanovnistvo...
To bad you forgot how many Greeks fought AGAINST BH hunters and how much damage we spend to fight AGAINST e-Greece
But you expected Greeks to fight against BH Hunters while you where doing what? Watching the battle while eating pop corn
I regret the damage I spend on your side against BH hunters
There are screen shots with Greek Players fighting on your side
Ask and you will receive
1.first honor your words and then opponents will honor their. After our former cp 's real life lose ( he lost his father in real life ) arab league said to me that he will wait 2 days for conversations with the new cp . next morning we had 2 rw waiting supported by incis .... is this honorable?
2. Heavy Greek attak??O_o
They are looking only for it selfs : ) Did not know? Now you know that ...
Poslije mpp-a s FYROM sve je gotovo. Ako biram izmedju grckog ili FYROM Egipta uvijek biram ono prvo.
Janko i told you in shouts go back to Croatia . and i ask you again who the f@ck are you? are yo in any government? YOU ARE JUST A PTOER WHO LOOSE HIS PLAYGROUND. GROW UP FIND ANOTHER GAME TO PLAY NOT A HOLE COUNTRY.
heavy Greek attack?? 0_o
I agree with myrmidonas and stamgpap!
You can't fight against 2-3 battle heroe hunters?
What you want? To fight for you? we won't.. fight for your freedom..
If you want.. If you don't just don't tell any lies..
erase egypat = )
Lol you guys are so weak that's why you lose.Why the topic.Greece will probably free some of your regions because you can't hold the war with them.
To bad you forgot how many Greeks fought AGAINST BH hunters and how much damage we spend to fight AGAINST e-Greece
But you expected Greeks to fight against BH Hunters while you where doing what? Watching the battle while eating pop corn
I regret the damage I spend on your side against BH hunters
There are screen shots with Greek Players fighting on your side
Ask and you will receive
+1000
wasted damage...
mpp with fyrom proved it
Heavy Greek attak??O_o
+1 LadyArgana
megalexandros.ladyargana etc.fought against e-Greece.because there were so many people that fought against you not for taking these regions but to take the god damn BH.but you didnt even fight against bh hunters.Furthermore in these days.there werent no actuals wars for e-Greece.so people who dont read BO fought against you.So greeks made a mistake.but you made a bigger one.and you expected from us to fight against these BH hunters.there are plenty of pics that show how our tank fight WITH you.but you still complain.the problem is the lack of your influence
Janko Fran
Minister of Communications and Information Technology of eEgypt
You are the Minister of propaganda ah?
Thats why advise not to elect level 22 presidents who know shit about the game 🙂
First the egyptians beg, Greeks help them, they betray Greeks, they beg more Greeks accept again, Egyptian betray again, so what u want now Egyptians? : )
BS
on the contrary to fyrom, Greece has already fought for your regions! so why the rush for that mpp?
You lost your playground Janko?
This article is total BS ,the truth is in the comments.
Zelja is right.
Guza papa eksere?
VOREIOHPEIROTHS, yes you are right.
We lost thos battles because we don't have enough people to hit in battles and our influence was minimal. However, we gave our best.
And we are grateful for those Greeks who fought for eEgypt, especially to Lady Argana and Mexalexandros! I would like to apologize to all players who fought on our side. However, they were in minority. It is strange how battle hunters can defeat regular army.
Yes, we expected Greek government to make sure that the deal gets implemented.
Yes, our problem is lack of people and low influence, the problem is even greater because Greece took regions first and we lost half of population on occupied territory.
MPP with Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) was our only choice left. Please, read the article carefully.
Getting more people to the game is exactly what we intend to do, but Greek occupation makes it difficult to make stronger EDEN connections... That is realistic and not fair. Until Greece sneaky attack on eEgypt, all our MPPs were only EDEN and Terra, which didn't prevent Greece from attacking and even cancelling two MPPs.
Yes, our president might be inexperienced in matters of war, but is socially were active, and is gaining experience quickly. We were preparing this month for baby boom, not for war with Greece.
@Wolfenstain
Currently eGreece has 35 more times larger population than eEgypt, so every Greek attack is heavy attack to eEgypt.
Wha the HELL?
>MPP with Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) was our only choice left.
LOLWAT??? : D
Fail eEgypt!
V
Heavy Greek attak??O_o
you can't say that we didn't try to give you the regions we promised to you ! you can only say that you did't help yourselves! our battle orders claimed not to fight in the war against you and there were greek fighters who spent gold fighting against greece in order you , take the regions !
Ask and learn first what really happened ...
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Egypt/law/73967
Too bad....now it's erasion time!
Nazalost Janko, nema od pomoci nista, dok god se za nesto pitaju i bitni su Zelja i HisAirness
well i never fought against Egypt but with this propaganda is just......
we tried to be allies but with your smart moves you made us enemies and dont think Fyrom and ONE will help you....you got yourself in a bad situation and this is not a way out...!!!
and its a shame but we will not run after you....
@Mitsos
You tried being allies while not keeping your promise and invading Egypt : )
Voted,
Greece is clearly wrong in this situation and abusing their powers to deny the truth. I think Greek players should stop this from happening urgently, as we did when Turkish government made a fatal mistake of betraying allies. There are some cases where the governments are blind to see the right thing(happened in eTurkey, now happening in eGreece), then the people should step in.
v
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/geliyoruz--1774345/1/20
V+S
voted
v + s pls http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/sok-gazetesi-255812/1