EDEN or Sweden - I have no illusions
T Cherub
This is my second term as Minister of Defense in Norway. I have a long history in the political scene of Norway, but I haven’t spent all my spare time on eRepublik. During my time, I've been in several governments and three times Country President.
Sweden want our regions, in general they want all of them. They don’t want us to have a Congress, as this will enable us to create MPP (Military Protection Packt) with other nations, and then create a threat to Sweden. Maybe not a threat as Nation, but through EDEN.
Now, for the record, my primary goal is to get a Congress just to get our politicians back on track. I want Norway to survive and not vanish. I want Norway to grow!
The last couple of days I’ve been trying to call upon the Swedes to find out what they want from us, beyond occupying all our regions. I could try get credit for the release of one region, but if you ask any Swede, it is by the grace of their president and his advisers. Truth is, they did indeed make that decision without my help, and there was no threat or leverage from me.
So now the question is; will we keep our one region and get a Congress, and I did push to get an answer. Lonestar heard my diplomatic voice and opened the forum thread in the Swedish forum. Curious to see what they said, it kind of boils down to this:
Scenario 1)
We leave EDEN, get one region, and Sweden will allow us to have a Congress. Without EDEN in our back, we are in the grace of Sweden and their willing.
Scenario 2)
We remain in EDEN and Sweden will do what it takes to refuse us Congress and further growth.
We are in the grace of ourselves and whoever in EDEN or elsewhere willing to help us.
I’ve been told many times, by various players, that Sweden is a “closed door”. I took it as a sign of frustration from futile diplomatic efforts. I have failed to see how Sweden could be more hostile and more difficult than other more remote eNations. After all, we almost speak the same language, and from my perspective, I saw them as neighbor and with some kind of “alliance”. Maybe I’m a child of EDEN and my perspective is still colored by how it was while Sweden was EDEN friendly.
Nevertheless, I haven’t closed the door completely to Sweden, especially since there are still some players who finds it more interesting to keep Norway alive in eRepublik, than to overrun us with Q5 tanks until we’re dead.
Then again, I’m really struggling to see how the grace of Sweden is any better than the grace of EDEN. The more players in Sweden with political influence that sees Norway as their private eh... female dog, the less I think we have anything in common. I believe in gamer community, and not feed either trolls or players who need some place where they can use nations for their personal vendettas.
Now for what it’s worth, if Sweden decides on refusing our Congress, they are clearly missing the point of my politics. I want Norway to stay alive, but I don’t want Sweden to make our decisions. I realise that in order for Norway to stay alive, we can not afford to get too many Congress seats, since that will allow hostile players run “our show”. If that is a matter of one, two or more regions, depends fully on how many Norwegians we got playing on our soil. I am willing to work for the continued growth of Norway. Either by the help from Sweden, or the hostility from Sweden. To put it another way, I’d rather have Sweden’s hostility than apathy. But I wouldn’t mind friendship (who would?).
So if you read all this; what do you prefer? The grace of EDEN, or the grace of Sweden?
Your Minister of Defense and loyal Norwegian citizen,
Tommy Skaue / cherub
Comments
You'll get a solid mmkay from me 😁
You are in the grace of Sweden, with or without EDEN, that is all the same.
Pig Disgusting Swedes.
Burn them to the ground.
Sweden will never accept you as anything resembling an equal or a friend in this situation... even if they make some promises and/or allowances their is nothing stopping them to brake that when it suits them...
I feel bad we are not able to do more for Norway atm, but we are waging war on the core of ONE and it takes every ounce of power to keep up with them... but without EDEN your perspective would become much worse...
and EDEN should really make an effort to secure at least one region for you during congress elections...
btw, shouldn't you be able to sign MPP's without congress members? CP's vote should do the trick I think..
We saw what was EDEN did for us last month when we had Eden supreme commander for our CP...
We are in grace of Sweden that is a truth, it is not pretty but that is our curent situation...
Serbian propaganda \o/
lol LavBoris can you be any more obviously serbian??
Whatever keeps our red white and blue flying, its already more red then anything themore Swede or Norge blood will not make a difference.
@BeDva
I just told to all what is our reality...
Eden didn't help us, as I remember 2 times in last 3 month eNorway hadn't congress
You're right, BeDva. We've actually already got two MPPs. Created without the help of a Congress. I guess that makes the Swedish threat to destroy our Congress election void, at least if their intentions are no prevent us signing MPPs. I didn't take the effort to investigate that, and simply assumed Lonestar knew what he was talking about. My bad. Hehe.
this is one of our toughest questions, Eden or Sweden, which option is best? I would prefer to stay loyal to Eden, but cant fail to see the rough fact that we didn't get help from them the last four, or so, months. Perhaps Sweden might help us, but as we all know, some of them simply doesn't mind shoting at us when we're down. Tough decision indeed!
Truth is, we in ONE are so tired of EDEN's self righteous BS, that we just want the alliance gone. We want the nations of EDEN to gain a fresh perspective and see what they are like without their overbearing clique. I really don't think the Swedes want to kill the Norwegian community, they just want you to leave EDEN.
eNorway or no eRepublik!
eSweden is able to help eNorway. EDEN isn't. EDEN is too busy. Always.
@BeDva: You don't know first thing about Scandinavia. Let me adress the obvious errors in your text...
"Croatia will never accept you as anything resembling an equal or a friend in this situation... even if they make some promises and/or allowances their is nothing stopping them to brake that when it suits them...
I don't really care about not wanting to do more for Norway - ever - but we are still busy losing the same wars from 2008 and it takes every ounce of our attention to keep up with them, as we simply don't care about non-balkan affairs... but without EDEN your perspective could not become any worse...
and EDEN will make yet another false promise about helping you get one region for you during congress elections..."
Quoted for great justice.
If the truth offended anyone, you have my apologies.
@Topic: Those who say that the door is closed have their own, dodgy agendas. The door has always remained open. In fact, we waited for you guys for more than a year. Too bad things developed the way they did, but with people like Skaue your country has a good chance to rebuild anew.
if you want peace-sweeden
if you want war-EDEN
this is true...