Eden and eCanada Comparisons

Day 1,584, 16:18 • Published in Canada Canada • by SaraDroz

As I am sure most are aware former allies, of ours and of each other, in the Balkans are busy voting to make each other Natural Enemies and fighting in RWs against former allies. eBulgaria is NE-ing eTurkey and it's troops fighting against eCroatia in RWs, eGreece is NE-ing eBulgaria... eBulgaria accepts One MPPs (eSpain is already passed and about 7-8 more MPPs are proposed)... "A right mess!" you would perhaps rightly conclude. Remind you of anything closer to home?

Origins



Of course in OUR case the origin was one person; a thief, serial user of corruption and Party PTOer. In the case of Eden it was the application of eTurkey, an ecountry not 'criminal' in any technical sense but a country that had been in Terra and then One. One had expelled them for attacking fellow members of the Alliance (eIran) so they now applied to Eden. Moreover they had been blocking eBulgarian expansion East by attacking their 'ally' eIran. While eTurkey was not a 'criminal' enation (except perhaps in the eyes of One) the coming decisions were bound to alienate loyal and good members of both eCanada and Eden and create divisions that none can yet see a way to heal.

The Votes

In OUR case the 'pardon vote' was passed 16;15 with the person responsible for any veto (the next CP) voting for the pardon. The fact that the next CP voted in this is unfortunate as it bound him not to, in effect, change his vote and apply the veto, although clearly the vote caused more damage than expected and was not representative of the general opinion of the eCanadian community. Nor was it clear how a single Congress vote, which did not change the law, could overthrow the law of eCanada as interpreted by our Courts. One could ask whether theft and Party PTO-ing is now legal in Canada? How can Congress say "Theft is illegal" on the one hand and then pardon a theft without changing the law? This of course is Constitutional issue and one which it seems Congress clearly overlooked.

In the Eden case eBulgaria voted, at first, for eTurkeys 'trail membership' for one month although it seems clear that eBulgaria was NOT present and their vote was taken by an HQ member who, because HQ wanted eTurkey in, voted in favour on eBulgaria behalf. This is very similar to our next CP voting in the pardon; it committed Edens HQ to their future course by participating directly in the issues with which they would be asked to reconsider. At the end of the month a vote was held on eTurkeys full membership. eBulgaria opposed this and this time Eden HQ quite literaly 'invented' new rules; that 'trial membership' was of an infinite duration and that 66% of votes were required to end this. None of these 'rules' existed; membership of Eden must be approved unaminously. Again we are faced with constitutional issues...

Curiously I have yet to hear any mention, from our Government or from abroad, of how eCanada voted, or even that we were present. Neither from the current or the previous Government have we heard eCanada position clearly stated.



The Flip Flops

Of course when Eden HQ and our current CP took part in the votes that caused such divisions they committed themselves to one side in future. Only when the issues proved more devisive than had been expected and they saw their positions undermined did they think of trying to placate their critics. In Eden the invention of new rules was in essence an attempt to force through HQ policy but was clearly illegal. For this some members of the HQ, including the SC, were in the end removed. A comprimise was attempted; eBulgaria and eTurkey were both relegated to 'trial members' first and most recently I believe eBulgaria is a full member once again and eTurkey is out... Sadly it seems that the damage is already done.

In eCanada we had the Day 1572 'confusion' where a referendum was first "always planned" then later in the day was NOT going to be held as it was wrong in principle. Finaly we had an 'opinion poll' conducted by CP himself the results of which are not yet known and all previous mentions of which have been deleted. We also had the 'allied threat' scare tactic that proved to be illusory but which the CP spent the 'best part of two days' staving off...



Results

HOME: As a result we now have the 'Exiled Patriots', outraged in self justification, actively fighting against eCanada, another lot of 'Disheartened Exiles' who, while not fighting eCanada, have no wish to return to a country they regard as corrupt and those who are still here and seek to 'sort it out'. Finaly we have those who would wish to take the war to the 'traitors'/'exiled patriots'.

ABROA😨 In Eden we have Greece about to attack eBulgaria (which finds itself in a similar position to the 'Exiled Patriots') forcing them to seek new allies, some countries appalled at the whole mess and are 'disheartened' and others who remain loyal but seek to sought it all out. In this role eGreece evidently regards eBulgaria as 'traitor'.

BOTH these situations arose because A. It was not understood, at the time the vote was taken, how devisive the results would be and B. Because the very people who would have to deal with the divisions had actively, and in Eden HQs case illegaly, participated in devisive vote; they thus became 'tainted'. I am NOT suggesting that Acacia acted illegaly as did Eden HQ; he acted legaly. However eTurkey was not a 'criminal' from the Eden view and it may have been expected that they would received more support than did our criminal case; eTurkey in attacking eIran had not actively hurt any member of the Eden community, unlike the position here.



Of Foreign Policy

As I mentioned above I have yet to see an explanation of eCanada position vis a vis eBulgaria/eTurkey, or even that we have participated. Ironically this lack of comment/presence, whether planned or not HAS given us leeway. Of course it could be conversely argued that had we played a strong and active role at the start of the Eden problems we may have helped prevent them reaching todays situation but this is a hypothetical qiestion now. In any case with our own communtiy suffering almost identical divisions to those afflicting Eden it may be our opinions would carry little weight but we nevertheless have the right and the duty to speak our views.

Of course the heart of the Eden problems seem, for now, far off being based in south east Europe. The prime alliance, upon which eCanadas security has always depended is our alliance with eUSA; the 'Brolliance' as it was called. After this we must look western Europe and eRussia and eChina. It may be that current version Eden can be saved and we should certainly appeal to eGreece and eBulgaria to stop their actions. It may be though that Eden is now doomed in which case we must look to the security of our neighbours. A strong alliance with eFrance and eChina/eRussia should be made with Treaties outside any formal Eden/Terra alliance. This does not stop us being members of an alliance but reinforces our security. It seems Eden, as we have known it, may be dying. It would be nice to hear from our Government on these foreign policy issues instead of illusory 'allied threats'.



Conclusion

Of course Eden HQ acted illegaly and so had to go. Our current CP has not acted illegaly but by himself participating in a vote that proved so devisive he has, like Eden HQ, tainted himself in the eyes of those who oppose such decisions. For all his previous talk of 'empathy' with the exiles (though not we who have remained but disagree) he has placed himself in such a position that he cannot resolve the division; he has, in effect, become a part of the problem itself. We now see Eden perhaps falling apart. It is to be hoped that our current CP, for the good of eCanada, will decline to stand for re-election and in so doing stop us going the same way as Eden appears to be heading.