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The effect of tax is limited in Erepublik,I think,since the existence of smuggling.And what about Ex-Juche?

@REgo Grehand

in fact there is nothing to do with Ex-Juche...
the author is just showing his compassion. 😛

我来林琴南一记：
echina诸君：
令人兴奋 的婴儿潮之后，老夫却看到了 大批 淘金人潮涌向海外， echina的GDP因此 从1000金以上跌至910。 依老夫之见， 主要原因是 国内公司数量不足，无法支撑 婴儿潮 带来的人口基数：3500人口、 221家公司，人口与公司数量之 比为16：1。 而在前十发达国家中，此比率 分别是 7.9 (eHungary), 8.21 (eUSA), 21.3 (eFrance), 8.31 (eRuassia), 6.8 (eRomania), 7.5 (eSpain), 12.8 (eGreece), 15.3 (eSerbia), 9.8 (ePoland), 19.5 (eCroatia)。 有差距 不？
铁矿采集与以其 为基础的武器制造可以说是 最赚钱的买卖了。可惜echina 铁矿资源不足，目前 我们手上没有铁矿高产区。无 铁 则无利可图算是 目前公司缺少的原因之一。 另一个原因， 新公司 上手伊始规模 很小 ，大多只能在 较大规模企业 价格战之间 步履维艰。
老夫谨言， 一：在拿回 沦陷于他国之手的 高铁区之前， 绝不提高铁矿进口税。 老夫在希腊 做资本家， 窃了 好些的铁矿资源 ，你要多少 都可以 给，前提 价格得 让我满意。 solotar听说在干着一样的勾当， 阿不 ，business。 钻石和 木材亦然。 二：提高谷物与 石油的 进口税， 保护本国 种植及勘探企业。 最后， 对食品、礼物、 武器、机票高征税， 保护本国制造业。
老夫想说的以上。 赞同的vote， 不屑的也别扔砖。

没啥好说的哎...

You have evidence for the Juche statement?

I'm afraid I can't agree with you in some points.

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For the love of Glorious Leader, pick a forum. Everyone wants their forum as the official one. Also, how difficult is the non-Chinese hosted forum? It's phpBB and set up like every other forum in the developed world.

Also, what evidence do you have for your Juche statement?

thank uynlocnil for translation.
@Annyon G: I have no evidence. Sorry for that. I am going to withdraw it and write a new one. thanks for your comments.

It seems more like the Chinese are trying to ban all Juche from China. Not the other way around.
Chinese are always trying to TO the Juche party.
Its funny because before Juche came to China it was controlled by Indonesians.

Also last time I propossed an import tax increase people went crazy.
I doubt you are going to get an increase in any tax's passed ever.

@Stalin-chan: There must be misunderstanding. RL Chinese are not trying to ban Juche. We just want to be friendly to you and your party members. K-Rad is already our friend. That's why I said we need a forum for both English and Chinese users. But your new party name has caused lots of problem. Please change it if you can. For your proposal, it didn't get passed simply because you raised it too much.

Well currently a Chinese person is attempting to TO us so I don't know how you expect us to take that.
And on the tax issue, eChina has had a long history with Tax issues.
Most people believe the taxes are fine as they are and will get very defensive when tax changes are proposed.
This mindset is counter productive, nothing is perfect.

As Pangolin pointed out we are getting mixed signals, you want to work with us and be our friend? Then why are you PTOing us and saying we must be destroyed?

I deleted my comment, I'd rather be an observer here. However, since it was referred to, I should give a summary of it

You cannot say to Juche that you want to be friendly toward them at the same time you are advising your readers "There is conflict between eChinese right now. But please do not forget fighting against Juche because they want to destroy our eNation".

Falun Gong has nothing to do with trying to get chinese people banned from the game. We are supporters of this great religion.
This is Erep not China.
When Hitler said that Jews were scum and must all die there were a brave few who stood against him and helped Jews escape from Germany.
We deserve to play this game and the Chinese government will not stop us.
Falun Gong pride.
o/

\o for the Gong!

do you know what religion means?
you call THAT a great religion? Nuts!
Don't involve any controversal things into erepublik, that's so annoy.
I had write a letter to admin to report what you have Done.
Get out of erepublik

The thing is, the admins of eRepublik do not have to follow your stupid Chinese government rules and typically follow a freedom of speech idea. I know this is revolutionary thinking to most of you mainlanders, but hold on, it's going to get exciting. FALUN GONG 2012!

Just know that I'm doing my part for the companies.

And it's called Falun Gong for a reason. It's a FALLEN religion.

@Pangolin: I have withdrawn my previous statements.
@Stalin-chan:
In game: I dont know who is trying to PTO your party. This could be his/her impulse. I am encouraging people to join PRP/CDP to win next congress election. Since you and your friends have PTO Snayke's party before, your experience should help you to prevent PTO.
In real worl😛 Whether you are Catholic, Mormon or FLG is not my concern. but the name of your party has caused troubles for thousands of chinese players. As you said this is erep, not rl world, please don't bring troubles in real world into game. all we want is to enjoy this game.

很有道理，支持！

1) I approve of the economy related ideas in this economy.
2) I do not approve of yet another pathetic attempt to bring down the name of Juche. As said, you are the people that try to TO OUR party, we've never tried to take over yours.

So if you truly want cooperation, like you claim to, then it would be a good idea not to use any excuse to try to bring down Juche or drown out any sounds you don't like, because guess what, freedom of speech and democracy goes BOTH ways, or else it's just another totalitarian dictatorship.

P.S Cristianwj, what drugs are you smoking? You wrote a letter to administration to complain against people supporting their chosen religion? What kind of Hitler freakshow are you?

With the current going rate of 1.29 CNY per Q2 ingot of iron, a 2 % increase in taxes would raise the price of an ingot by perhaps .03 CNY. If you were to buy 100 ingots, that would be an increase in price from 129 CNY to 131.58 CNY, a difference of a paltry 2.58 CNY. I see no reason not to encourage local industry instead of exporting the wealth, especially when one considers that for our commonly made Q1 guns, that would be a price difference of .06 CNY, and that only if your gun was made with foreign iron.

With Decepticon Mining (a Grecian company) undercutting all competition, I see no reason that a small tax on imports could not be applied to give our local industries more of a fighting chance.

I see no reason that the same thought cannot be applied to our wood industry.

thank you pyro. i hope you will return to eChina soon.

@K-Rad, thanks for reading and support. 1) To my knowledge, I don't know anyone has intention to TO your party. 2) Juche's new party name has blocked Chinese players from accessing erepublik. don't you agree that this is what Juche did to restrict the freedom of eChinese? is it fair? I'll keep talking about this until your party name changed or banned by Admin. I was elected by eChinese so I will speak for their welfare. My friends are doing the same job.

@Palorrin: If we protect local unefficient iron companies (4 companies), we will not be able to protect our weapon industries (20+ companies) because they have to use high price iron. In addition as i know quite a number of weapon companies are smuggling iron. Raise of iron import tax cannot help local iron industry but encouraging smuggle. that means more tax will be lost.

Why should we explain so much to a Falun Gong member? It is oberviousely what they want to do.
I expect to see the response if we creat a party or OG like "Korea Colonial Governor", haa.

ChinaMop, I live in China and the party name is not blocked for me. Probably has something to do with the dodgy software the government wants everyone to have so they can censor the internet. Also, I didn't know the name had been changed until I saw this article. And whilst you may not like it, freedom to choose your religion (I am not religious, I am talking about people in general) is one of the main tenets of a free and democratic country. Do you, or don't you, want a free and democratic eChina?

Wow, I thought I was capable of writing a terrible article, but I have much to learn.

I have no intentions of getting involved here, however regarding:

"@Pangolin: I have withdrawn my previous statements."

This is simply not true. Your previous statement is right there for anybody to see. This happens all the time in eChina, someone says one thing to one audience and something entirely different to another audience. There are a lot more emotions than facts going around here.

This is strange I haven't seen any more Chinese comments in this article.

@sagaWF
We didn't PTO Snaykes party, we didn't need to since Snaykes party was a puppet we setup to make Snayke think he had Goon support.
We gave the order for all Goons to move to our other party (The so called Snayke party) when the Chinese PTOed our party the last time.

@ChinaMop
You are grasping on straws a Goon in China has no problem accessing any pages on Erepublik, Stop lying to the admins and making half truths.

Hi, K-Rad, chinamop is my org account. I strongly agree with you that:"freedom to choose your religion is one of the main tenets of a free and democratic country." In real life I have friends from different religious background.
Pangolin, I wrote new statements below the old one so that readers will know what had happened. deleting the old statement is not a wise choice.

@Stalin-Chan: I am not lying. when they click ur party name they won't be able to access erepublik for a certain period.
Chinamop is sagawf's org account.

Yes, I was referring to your new statement. It is sarcastic. You say one thing to Juche (and to me, apparently), while it's clear that your actual beliefs are just the opposite of what you're saying.

还是那句话 人数才是王道 等上海医院造好了就拼命拉人� ��来

Isn't Snayke a follower of the so called "Juche leader" ?

& the name "FALUN GONG" is Buddhist/Ancient Tibetian, which by definition is against Juche.

Well, personally getting more companies does seem like a decent idea, especially if you consider how many of our current companies are land companies built in medium regions.

And as for Juche, as long as they don't try to purge a vast majority of the populations and actually open-mindly listen to other suggestions I have no problems with them.

Its obvious that the only ones wishing to whipe anyone out here is the Chinese. The Falun Gong party wishes no harm on anyway we only wish to practice our Qigong, and live peacefully.

本土党看过来~
ps 撕大淋同志你好， 撕大林同志再见

http://echina.hostei.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=212" target="_blank">http://echina.hostei.com/forum/viewtopic[..]t=212

You are paranoid and believe your country's idiotic propaganda. We know most of you use the internet through proxies anyway.

I'm not gonna tell that I hate religion stuff (eRepublik is NOT a political game).
Can you tell me what is the interest to say some shit like falun gong stuff?
We could tell that Juche wants to disturb eChina (impeachment vote on the new-elected president for example)

我不会再说我对宗教的印象，e Republik并不是一个政治的游戏
谁能告诉我这样的事情有什么� ��？
Juche党当然想打扰e中国的平安� ��最近的事情让大家知道。

Terrible. Stop writing.

"We could tell that Juche wants to disturb eChina (impeachment vote on the new-elected president for example)"

I wouldn't interpret the impeachment attempt that way at all. It was a very close election. If the division in eChina remains strong, the country will lose half its population. The economy has already stalled. Everybody knows that there is a new power in eChina that can't be denied, I interpreted the impeachment attempt as a way to keep the long-running President in power while that transition takes place. Don't get trapped in thinking that game mechanics are the only thing that matter, it's much more important to use the game to get along as one human to another than to form like-minded groups to try to win every vote.