DAL Army
Dr.Pain
Disclaimer: This is not a Nazi analogy! Please read the Wikipedia Artcile if you think that my mentioning of Weimar has anything to do with Nazi Germany. I was talking about how Weimar was and not what it lead to.
As you may already read, TFD announced the creation of the CPF Army. He encouraged the other Partys to follow his example and undermine the authority of the Prime Minister.
If you choose me to be the Party President of the Democratic Action League I will not go down this path to the Weimar Republic.
I believe that the CAF and even the Crimson Canucks are fully capable to protect eCanada.
Not only did those organisations proof to be worth our trust, but they also have the social function of unifying the people of Canada. Everyone can join them no mather theyr political believes.
Creating party militias is another step to the balkanization of Canadian politics.
In short: The DAL does not need a personal army. But if we would create one, it would be kick-ass.
And because someone told me that comment is not the same as artcile:
I am not quite shure what is happening here. Why are you guys so offended?
The Weimarer Republik thing has nothing to do with the nazis or anything (if that is the reason why you feel that this linking could be out of line).
I dont know how familiar you are with the history of my country that is why i linked an english wikipedia article. It was the brief period of democracy between the two world wars. The problem was, that the people where not realy happy with the democraczy and the leaders that got elected.
So that is the first similarity (the most influential partys CPF and DAL are not realy happy with getting Jacobi as president).
In the Weimar Republik most of the parties had there own militias.
And that would be the second similarity.
How is that out of the line?
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Overreaction much?
Real life and eRepublik have little in common.
I do not think it wise to compare the CPF to the Weimar republic.
Some people may get the wrong idea.
@Tyler: You are just angry because you know the DAL doesn't need an army to kick CPF ass, and if we DID get one... suffice it to say that the CPF may be eating the leather of my boots. 😛
(that twas satirical) lololol
Sorry Dr.Pain, but i see no problem with the CPF military group. So long as the army keeps its actions seperate from the Party there is no reason to try to pait them in a picture of evil, the Crisom Canucks were treated the same way and look now. We operate with next to no cost and are capable of supplying 5 Q1 weapons a day along with a few Q2's every once in a while... no Gov funds either.... These groups are nothing but a benefit to eCanada as they give us increased fire power at a lesser expence. I work for 2 CAD a day cause i am patriotic to my country and am not out to get rich but defend my home.
It is not the private militias per se, but that all these militias do have a political backround par definition.
i really dont care who has an army at this point but tyler your annoying me so im going to go ahead and tell you to shut up
Voted. Militias suck.
Scorpius: "tyler your annoying me so im going to go ahead and tell you to shut up"
THIS CONVO IS DONE! SCORPIUS HAS KNOCKED HIS OPPONENT DOWN WITH AN IRONCLAD LOGIC-BASED ARGUMENT! THERE'S NOWHERE FOR TFD TO GO! Oh my God the MINDBLOWING constructive arguments put forth by Scorpius are just OUT OF THIS WORLD PEOPLE!
One country. One Army.
hehehe Saltydog ftw.
One Country. Many Armies. Liberty for all.
The reactions of the usual suspects are less than surprising.
😉
@Dr.Pain
Sorry bud although each member may be part of a political party does not mean the unit as a whole has an agenda in polotics. CC is best example as it stands with members from basicly EVERY top 5 Political party in eCanada!
It is disappointing that a few have reacted with fear and smear tactics.
I dare any single one of they who talk in indiginty of Tyler to challenge his track record or his patriotism.
That will be a short conversation.
I am not quite shure what is happening here. Why are you guys so offended?
The Weimarer Republik thing has nothing to do with the nazis or anything (if that is the reason why you feel that this linking could be out of line).
I dont know how familiar you are with the history of my country that is why i linked an english wikipedia article. It was the brief period of democracy between the two world wars. The problem was, that the people where not realy happy with the democraczy and the leaders that got elected.
So that is the first similarity (the most influential partys CPF and DAL are not realy happy with getting Jacobi as president).
In the Weimar Republik most of the parties had there own militias.
And that would be the second similarity.
How is that out of the line?
Cypher: Did you even read the article?
Militias are needed to supplement the CAF but these cannot be mixed with party politics. They will take the strategic voting war to an all new level and create even further rift between Canadians.
Is that so?
Tell me then Bruck, how many eCanadian Political Party Armies can you cite as references to back up your theory?
The only possible rifts will be caused by unwarranted paranoia and scaremongering.
I doubt highly that the CPF Army is the cause of any rifts in eCanadian society. That I have to laugh about.
"So that is the first similarity (the most influential partys CPF and DAL are not realy happy with getting Jacobi as president)."
Well ladies and gentlemen, Dr.Pain does not speak for the CPF.
The CPF ran it's own candidate on Decemeber 5th, but we support the current President - he was elected by a more eCanadians than thought otherwise.
And for the record, AR1ARX's comment PWNS us all.
Good night.
🙂
I have to laugh about DAL affectionately combining CC with the CAF, there was a time when the Canucks were the bane of the CAF and couldn't say enough or do enough to get rid of them. The fact remains that a military can support itself without printing a ridiculous amount of money, Jacobi even said this (paraphrasing) in his campaign. Cripes, there are CAF members joining CC because they are better supplied and better organized.
It is a credit to CC that they have remained apolitical throughout their existence, at the end of the day it is a political world that we all operate in, why not accept that and try to influence that environment. Will it be easy? Of course not.
And as for taking strategic voting to a new level, cripes, Obama revolutionized political campaigning with his use of the media available in the information age.
Don't expect me to respond in the future if your going to triple post Tyler
Everyone knows I have a gypsee grandmother who sees the future. I have done so many times before. The DAL and others will need to counter your plans here and before you know it every party has a loyal batch of recruits each fighting for their parties name, and come election time against each other if need be. What little democratic choice we had will become non existent, unless of course your the one choosing where to send your army to vote
@ Bruck,
Only one post was intended for you...as you can tell you're not the only one posing questions to me.
To answer your query...
I too have a gypsie grandmother who can see the future - and she can beat up your gypsie grandmother.
The CPF Army will have absolutely no effect on voting.
The CPF already knows how to vote.
Now we are going to learn how to fight.
The Crimson Canucks have ben an inspriation to us - as many are in our ranks, and have proven to all eCanadians that the only citizens who have a right to fight alongside their brother or sister need not have a special badge or government funding.
All they need is a brotherhood who thinks like them, and has their back. Thats all we offer.
Besides, its not as though I can FORCE anyone to be involved in the CPF Army. Anyone who really thinks that needs to learn game mechanics. They still have the free and democratic choice to NOT be in the CPF Army...for those who wish it - it will be there.
I would like to point out these quotes from the former Madame President of France. Please understand that this is not pointed at any groups in Canada, it's just a thought.
"One legionnaire during the battle in Aquitaine, received 80 gold for tanking, which he saved personally and left the Legion."
"Army transformation into private militias funded by the state according to the quality of relationships of cronyism."
Is that the same President who robbed the state treasury?
This was her outgoing explanation for stealing 2000 gold and tens of thousands in currencies:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/d-part-1072297/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/d-pa[..]1/20
Whether it is a government funded soldier, or a non-government funded soldier, the risks are inherently equal.
It is therefore illogical to assume that a CPF Army will be any worse - OR better than ANY government army, nor will the composition of it's personnel be any different.
At least the CPF Army won't be asking for state funds.
The entire risk of himan behavior lies entirely with the CPF.
Tyler, just making sure it's known that that article was the one I was quoting.
Oh maaaaaaaan... I'm the Harbinger of Doom?
Does that get me a well-designed, somewhat pricey, but rather stylish motor vehicle? Can it be a convertible? I've always wanted a convertible!
Luckily for me, Plugson, if I choose to write a 1 000 or even 10 000 word epic on the most mundane and insignificant, or the most urgent and profound matters of the day, I'm perfectly free to. As everyone is perfectly free not to read it if they so choose. As I suspect some, perhaps many haven't here in this thread. I will of course return tomorrow night just in case anyone wants to engage me on the points I bring up.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
The antlers fold back, so yes, you may call it a convertible.
Sadly, it is Italian, not German. Enjoy:
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Sweeeeet!
Does it come in hunter green?
Hunter green? Still worried about moose season, huh? I'm not sure what colours V2 will allow us to use, or what would look best as you ride out leading the CPF charge, tearig apart the fabric of eCanada, sucking our nation into a black hole of feudal servitude to militia-backed parties.
AR1ARX: Yes, freedom to write what you think is a great thing. You make good points and someone may take the time to read through everything to respond to them. For me, it's time for bed.
I'm sure eCanada will be just fine despite my (so far) one man army.
lol
We survived Adam Sutler, we survived Cobra.
We survived WW3.
We'll survive this, I'm quite sure.
Meet My Mechanic:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/meet-my-mechanic-1074036/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/meet[..]/1/20
AR1ARX: I wrote the artcile at 2am in the morning. Is it realy that hard to believe that someone with an other historic backround then a anglo-american one could mean something else when they are using analogys. For a German it is a realy big step to link Weimar directly with the nazis. I would have had zero problems with that analogy in ther German press. But I guess you are not free fom spin either, otherwise you would not try to suggest I wanted to link the CPF with the Nazis, although I assured otherwise.
not voted
"One country. One Army."
*cough*CrimsonCanucks*cough*
Besides, I don't want to joint the CAF, I prefer this alternative. I do not see why people outside the party care. It's not like we can use violence to win elections guys, you are putting way to much RL into this game
Let me try it this way, Dr. Pain. Why will you "not go down this path to the Weimar Republic?" What's wrong with emulating the Weimar Republic? Why shouldn't you and our country go down this path? Is the Weimar Republic a desirable end result?
I have to admit, I'm looking forward to your answer. And I note with interest you did not substantiate your lies. Perhaps you should consider withdrawing with apologies your lies you cast about Tyler's intent.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
Why should a failed democracy be a desirable end result?
And thus we reach the implication of your argument. You suggest that the CPF's action will endanger democracy in eCanada. You only used Weimar because it was a failed democracy, that eventually led to fascism. You are tying the CPF's actions to that descent that Weimar suffered. Are you really not able to recognise this? You are making a ludicrous and outrageous association, smearing Tyler, and the CPF, by associating their actions with the failed democracy. Perhaps you really don't recognise this, but I think you know very well the lies and smears you are perpetrating against the CPF.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
btw: I never said that TFD intends a coup d'etat or something similar. The point i wanted to make is: "if every party forms its own militia, we end up in the waimar republik"
well, delete the "led to facism" part and the "only smears and lies" and you got exactly my point.
voted for the lulz of a political party that can't win anything trying to make its own country where it does win things.
Hey Tamas:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/meet-my-mechanic-1074036/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/meet[..]1/20
Come out of your basement, its daylight now.