CrowdedHouse points out why Australia should stick with EDEN
Goose Step
Good Evening eAustralia.
Yes, I'm back as Goose Step and getting involved again because of a disturbing trend over the last 48 hours... the talk of asking assistance from Phoneix.
This shocking thought raised by Bass Junkie and supported by Discrate1 is wrong and they should be told to leave this country for even raising the suggestion.
This dumb political move has allowed Maddog Jones from the eUK to make some clever propaganda to divide this game.
I am also disturbed by Dean Kong making the suggestion that EDEN are ignoring us.
So why are where we are at...
1) The Game Itself.
We all know what dodgy stuff AnD do - I've been shown the evidence, the problem is, becuase we know admin are doing nothing to stop them, it's stopping us from trusting any new players or inviting new players to the game.
2) Laziness of our Government.
Before ANYONE passes the blame to EDEN for not saving us, let's look at our current government.
Where are the regular updates from the Prime Minister or Minister of Public Relation to advise what is happening in this country?
What is the state of our Military - whose in charge and giving orders - where are the orders?
Is there any education happening for new players?
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
Good government has stopped - that's a key reason why we are going down the toilet.
If we bring back good government, that's active and at leasts has the departments like we use to have before the PTO, we will gain back our spirit and pull together to fight the PTO.
This EDEN is doing nothing excuse is crap. It's just being used by people pushing their own agenda... they see a weak Australia and just want to get control.
EDEN
Let's remember EDEN has been there for us on the war-front.
When the Phoneix Nation of Indonesia wouldn't give up Western Australia, EDEN liberated it.
When the Phonexi Nation of Brazil attacked us, EDEN came to our aid.
When Indonesia attacked us again... EDEN was there.
When we needed ATOers, EDEN has given us as many citizens as they could (and remember we have a limited number of Citizenships to give out).
Currently other EDEN countries need help, and the resources can only stretch so far.
So why did Croatia get more support in a PTO? Simple, they pack a bigger punch in the military stakes and are in an important strategic position.
It's not that EDEN don't care for us, but you do have to choose your fights, with what fight can win and what is the result of the actions taken.
Plus, something the Phoenix supporters won't tell you, at that time Croatia had OPEN CITIZENSHIP, were we had invite only citizenship... thus Croatia was easier and more critical to do.
Phoenix
Phoenix... they (or when known as PEACE) have allowed us to be in the shadow of Indonesia.
Phoenix has allowed TWO countries to invade us... EDEN has never invaded us.
Phoenix has done NOTHING to save is from the PTO... EDEN has sent ATOers.
Phoenix have not condemned the actions of AnD and cannot control them.
The Phoenix deal is being lead by the eUK... a country that could have left FORTIS and remained Neutral, but instead allowed PEACE to walk on through and invade our bros, the USA and Canada.
Can they be trusted... NO.
Worse, the eUK with Bass has been spreading rumours that EDEN will PTO us.
Australia with EDEN is a strong Australia
Let's face it - we are all fed up with the PTO.
We are looking for a solution... someone to blame.
It's not EDEN we should be blaming... It's our lazy direction-less government.
That is allowing people like Bass Junkie and Discrate1 to create fear and divide the community - seriously... look at yourselves... your agreeing with Discrate1. I was glad when he was booted out of the ERA. He joined and within two weeks wanted to be Party President, when the membership voted against it, he cracked the sads - certainly not a person to listen to.
Australia - you know me. I was the first to say WonderForward could not be trusted - and I was proven to be 100% right.
I am now saying this. Turn your back on Bass Junkie, back Hinokai and let's get a working active government going.
CrowdedHouse (Goose Step)
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Is that you Ekrem, or one of your 30 multi-accounts?
Dean Kong have you been proactive in talking with Individual countries about our PTO or did u just try to get into the EDEN channel once or twice didnt work then gave up?
Tim Holtz, he has tried gaining access and even I who had access asked around for others to give him access and was replied with silence.
Tim Holtz, I talked to several EDEN countries such as south africa and ireland, I pm'd the leader of EDEN in game to get access, as well as buggered SC to get me access to the official areas on IRC. I'm currently in one room, where my queries as to helping us prevent a serbian take over of our regions was met with "it'll be fine".
neither Ireland or South Africa are in EDEN.........
i mean with the larger more influential EDEN nations. Poland, Spain, Romania, even the USA.
Ireland and SA are bros though. I wasn't getting anywhere with EDEN so I tried them instead.
I talked to the president of Poland at one point and he said we'd have to talk to EDEN about co-ordinating something. The amount of times I woke up at 5am for EDEN meetings only to not be included can't be counted.
Tim, as I stated before, they were talked to by me. Petsku, Bogdan, Lavanche and avec (all EDEN figures). I was met with silence by a few of them as stated.
Voted for the truth!
WonderForward could not be trusted coz he's maho
Voted. Some interesting points are raised.
"the only way to reach all of our new players is to individually message each of them that joins, a task I was not willing to bestow on any member of our country."
I'm simply astonished to hear that no one is taking care of newbies. With all due respect Dean, what are ministers and other cabinet members for? Messaging around 30 new members a day is about a 5-minute task. Considering less than 10% of them will bother to respond it means an additional 10 minutes a day.
I guess there are people here wasting more than 15 minutes a day joking around on IRC.
If you had provided me with a list of new citizens every morning I would have messaged them myself without asking for shiny medals or cabinet positions.
Wait, to be more constructive, I'll kick off messaging them right away if I'm supplied with a list.
H.Nelson, like I said I didn't want to bestow the task of messaging newbies as their duty, it's not something I felt should be done. If you honestly want to do it I'll work on getting a list supplied, let me talk to Corny-ratbag or ronnyjnrjnr and find out how they got their spreadsheet organised to sort out the new members.
OK, many thanks for your response. Feel free to pm me in game when there are some more details available.
Basically everyone should fight Indonesia everywhere.
um wait let me get this clear.. who PTO'd Australia? the Indos did, whose side are the indos on? Pheonix.. and they want to ask assistance from the very PTO'ers? wow that's just plain retarded
"they should be told to leave this country for even raising the suggestion." Too strong.
You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!
lol..,......
aus gov = same person from months to months. no regeneration. same reign same brain no new idea
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woi rakyat jelata. gw lucu!
Goose Step is not Crowded House.
Goose Step is an EDEN spy you fools.
Hahahahahahahaha
kejadian sejarah berulang, Australia akan dijajah Indonesia selama 350 tahun. seperti netherland jajah Indonesia, beberapa waktu lalu.
If you wanna a freedom, do it your self...!!!
Yes we have been caught off guard with this PTO, yes our reaction has been too slow and too late, yes the PTOers have been a step ahead of us at every turn, but if EDEN wants e Australia as a valued member then it needs to come to our Aide, E Australia is not only an asset because of it resourcese but in geopolitical sense a strong e Australia is like a dagger pointing towards the Heart of e Indonesia, so it does make strategic sense to come to our aid!
haha crowdedhouse is back already! lol voted
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Proud eUS ATO voter, voting this FTW.
o00o gitu ya...
@ Nelson.. Sorry buddy, Messaging New players each day IS NOT a 5 minute task. I used to get anywhere from 30 to 100 new eAustralians a day to message, with possibly ONE OTHER PERSON to help
It is a time consuming and very unrewarding job, as less that 70% reply, and as the PTO feelings are still quite strong, I dont have the time or energy to message 70 NEW INDO MULTI BOTS per day. Not to mention the fact that when we did message newbs, we had a script showing every new player that had joined. THIS SCRIPT CONTINUALLY GOT HACKED!!!.. This is another reason there is no messaging going on.
Take it from someone who knows... THIS IS NOT A 5 MINUTE JOB IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, AND IT IS IGNORANCE TO THINK THAT IT IS.
Welcome back CH 🙂
Well written Goose Step. This is the sort of article and news that should be voted up.
Vorodor: No offence, but you never have had word with me. If I'm silent it means I have only bouncer on the channel. IGM or PM the whole subject you have to say and something will be done. That much I can guarrantee.
I'm not a mind reader, if someone says me "Hey" in private and is offline when I come back and never return to have a word with me, I cant do a shit about it.
HAIL PHOENIX
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Proud ePL ATO voter, voting this FTW. And for the truth.
@ sir billy he sure sounds like crowded house if you knew him and how he wrote his articles it sounds like him.
@rjj We have less than 30 new citizens a day in eAus except for the days before elections when it miraculously jumps to around 100 for some strange reasons. My plan is to assign those responding to mentors so the majority of the work won’t fall on me.
Also, Indo multis can be spotted quite easily as they either don’t bother to respond or they do but with using awful grammar in their pm’s. They will give up trying to compose back-to-back messages so they are not going to drain our resources after a few messages.
As for the script constantly getting hacked, you may be right about this. I don’t know anything about scripts so I guess this could be the main obstacle holding up the project. : (
i smell truth
HAIL CAESAR
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VOTED for Truth!!!! CH speaks TRUTH!
I'm Rod Damon and I approved this message
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CH, the military restructure is almost complete. it is also not the Governments fault that the DropBears and ACUK have faltered. It comes down to the marshal. I must applaud Majester, Hookerbunny and all those involved in keeping the AAR functional. Without the AAR we would be struggling to find a solid platform for the restructure.
Second of all, CrowdedHouse. I have done quite a bit of messaging in my own free time and the response has been so horrible i have almost given up on it. New players are hard to come by in Aus, who are caught between all the bots and multies in Aus. I have manage to get too a few and they have found the forums and irc. But it is up too them if they wish to stick around and help with the pto. And to be frank i would not blame them on why they are leaving.
Also what can Eden offer us anymore? All they can offer is minimal help due to the amount of senator passes we can only give when AnD can keep making multies. It would take a year at least to get the country back that way. We have to start thinking with our heads and not with hearts and do what is best for eAustralia.
Well said CH. You did forget to mention something rather important though in your posts. Other Phoenix nations have sent citizens to eAustralia to assist the PTO efforts, not just Indos.