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Shizzle Bizzle. No one attacks new players into joining the Crimson Devils, this obviously means war.

Well said.

Boot Camp sign up is here:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=ckl2a1BwQUh0T3R0Wk83UFh5LUU4dEE6MA.." target="_blank">http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?[..]6MA..

Uhhh, when did we fight for Phoenix?

And The Crimson Order does help Australia, ask Homer J Simpson. You make it sound like we are anti-Australia, when this is certainly not the case.

XGmaxx

"I am disgusted to see that the Crimson Order have been promoting themselves off to new eAustralian citizens by trying to pass themselves off as one of the eAustralian Military Units that we currently have."

I don't see anything in that recruitment message that says we are trying to impersonate the Australian Military.

First, it's the Crimson Devils, the Crimson Order refers to the whole thing, like the Canucks, Guard, Devils and whatever else they have altogether.

As much as I really don't like the Crimson Devils, I actually think this is a bit overblown. Sure, they're poaching new members, but if that message is all they sent then they don't actually say 'We are part of the Australian military'. Hell, they even refer to themselves as a militia.

Over reaction FAIL from the CP lol

As a 11x congressman for eCanada, I can vouch Crimsons would never fight for PHOENIX.

As for their recruiting tactics, better get to the babies before they do 😉

And, so that no one can be mistaken:

http://zhunder.com/showbattle.php?id=9907" target="_blank">http://zhunder.com/showbattle.php?id=990[..]9907

We do fight for Australia. I did over 13k in Damages for Australia WITH MY OWN GOLD. Because that's how I roll.

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@TaiwanPanda, As a 12 Times Senator of Australia, Inspector General, Speaker of the Senate 3 times, Cabinet Member 5 times and Prime Minister twice, I don't care. They may not fight for Phoenix, but they do say in their article:

"As you probably already know the Crimson Devils are an Australian fighting force"
Which is Crap, they aren't. They may be based in Australia, but they are not an Australian Fighting Force and this comment insinuates that they are sanctioned and part of the Australian Defence Force which they aren't.

The Crimson Order are not part of the Australian Military - never have been.

If they werent being led by people like Dycey, the Australian Military wouldnt have any problem with them.

The Crimson Devils, made up primarily of Australian citizens, can be rightfully considered an Australian fighting force. In no way does that imply they are part of the ADF.

Funny how so many foreigners post on CD articles then.

Quoted from their Enlistment Article:

"As you probably already know, volunteering at one of our companies is a mandatory requirement for membership in the Crimson Devils. In exchange for your volunteer labour you will be supplied regularly with weapons from our in house weapons company."

Any Australian Citizen that joins one of their companies and DOES NOT RECEIVE WEAPONS should contact the Australian Military Personel listed above or should alternatively contact the Department of Industrial Relations Staff:

Minister: Infin
Deputy Minister: Timeoin

There have been problems in the past with the Crimson Devils requiring this and not actually giving out the weapons and even leaving employees to work for them for 3 days before they can resign.

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"There have been problems in the past with the Crimson Devils requiring this and not actually giving out the weapons and even leaving employees to work for them for 3 days before they can resign."

LOL! Way to cover up the truth 😕

Anyone who enlists and is accepted in the Crimson Devils can be assured they will be given the same number of supplies as every other member. Our supply lines are extremely organized and the avenues of communication are plenty.

Yeah, dude they wouldn't fight for Phoenix although I can see where you're coming from.

Who is "Timoin", Mr Holtz?

First point: Thats not my name.

Second point: Im not single, either in game or in Real life.

Third point: You're right, it shouldnt matter. I was just giving the rest of the Crimson Order the benefit of the doubt, that they werent all like Dycey.

"21TemujinBC4 minutes ago "There have been problems in the past with the Crimson Devils requiring this and not actually giving out the weapons and even leaving employees to work for them for 3 days before they can resign."

LOL! Way to cover up the truth 😕

Anyone who enlists and is accepted in the Crimson Devils can be assured they will be given the same number of supplies as every other member. Our supply lines are extremely organized and the avenues of communication are plenty."

Actually yes I've heard of a lot of cases like this IT DOES HAPPEN! YOU ARE COVERING IT UP! There have been entire articles on this in the eAustralian press, I remember one about five months ago exactly and others since then and on the forums. Seriously, if you want to truly serve eAustraliathen join the military. Although I also got to admit militias take the weight off the government for budget, but because of recent events I wouldn't be surprised if the TCO pulled out of eAustralia

"Actually yes I've heard of a lot of cases like this IT DOES HAPPEN! YOU ARE COVERING IT UP! There have been entire articles on this in the eAustralian press, I remember one about five months ago exactly and others since then and on the forums. Seriously, if you want to truly serve eAustraliathen join the military. Although I also got to admit militias take the weight off the government for budget, but because of recent events I wouldn't be surprised if the TCO pulled out of eAustralia "

One event, five months ago. If you aren't going to tell the whole truth of that event, then perhaps you ought to simply leave it alone, mmkay? I'm not covering anything up at all, it was XG who brought up the incident without any sort of thorough recall of the events.

What recent events are you talking about, that would result in us pulling out of Australia? We've had two new recruits the past two days 🙂 Thanks for all the free publicity, my friends!

"I wouldn't be surprised if the TCO pulled out of eAustralia"

gee i wonder why? maybe it might have something to do with being abused by officials at every turn

@Timeoin

wow your going to pick me up on a spelling mistake. thats pretty pathetic. got nothing else to try to catch me out on?

oh btw trolling the CD with Government orgs isnt giving them the benefit of the doubt. so stfu

also point 2 has nothing to do with the argument. insecure prehaps?

Shut Up Tim you can clearly see in point 2 that he is stating his manliness

Timmy isn't eSingle - He's eMarried to the eAustralian who fought for Brazil against South Africa. LOL! That screenshot is priceless!

Well, my guys are a lot like me ... they like to fight the good war - war that makes a difference and protects our allies. They like to have a few beers and get goofy on irc together. They like to educate new players and help them advance in the game. Yeah, they sound pretty dangerous - lol!

I'm glad you're showing Tim Holz the correct respect by calling him Mr. Holz, though. He demonstrates logic - Not as much fun as playground antics for some, I know, but his way of play is a sustainable commodity that will promote a better game. It's good to see a little good judgment in with the bad.

Did somebody say beer?

"He's eMarried to the eAustralian who fought for Brazil against South Africa. LOL! That screenshot is priceless!"

I'd just like to clarify on that.

There is a bug that sometimes happens where you appear to be on the other team in a battle, but infact your damage still counts to the side you fought for.

Anyway - continue ranting everyone.
*warms hands from the flame war

@ Tim - merely pointing out how stupid you sound when you say "Timoin you are one of the single stupidest people ive ever met", spelling my name wrong in the process.

you however based your argument on that when a simple spelling mistake has no grounding on the issue at hand.

the only reason you picked up and outlined my spelling mistake was because you want to make it seem my argument is less valid due to my supposed lack of knowledge. nice try but some people arent as petty as you

as long as The Crimson Devils obey orders from Australian Defense Department, I don't see reason why Xavier blame them. Private Military unit does exist and in some way they can be helpful. Depends how you manage relationship with them as Prime Minister of eAustralia. Such blame really won't help in any matter.

.. this is getting out of hand. If you don't want to look like a twat all comment from below me should be saying sorry, if there is any arguments then I consider that person just a massive troll. Seriously the start was all right but than you look down the comments and it starts to get dirty. This needs to stop, as said before any more commenting would just be childish.

And here was me thinking that the PM was supposed to know wtf he was talking about. Sorry my mistake.

Oh and nice avatar Tim.

Maybe its high time that we include something about this in the welcome message?

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I'm sorry Prime Minister, but just by looking where this is heading to I wish this article was never published.
I can roughly see where you got these ideas from though.
We all know why new players are more attracted by CD's offer than ADF's offer.
I am really curios though,,,
"They will not fight out of loyalty to eAustralia because the only loyalty the Crimson Order have is to the highest bidder."
This statement makes me wonder whether it's true or not 😛

Now, chill out guys.
We all don't want a new enemy do we >?<
We all already have one big enemy, Phoenix.
Let us altogether crush Phoenix first, then talk about this later shall we 😛

Not touching this one with a 5 foot pole of flaming mongoose.

Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole of flaming turd

lol'ing at this one because its pointless!!!!

Thx aus askar for making a sensible comment

ok I decided to touch this a little bit

AA is right, seriously, wtf has the CDs done to deserve this? I don't see any other Australian militia being this targeted. How about offering new players an alternative to the CD, and start messaging them? Any legit new player will choose official military over militias, all you need to is not be lazy, and put in a bit of effort

new players will be absolutely confused, for example: me!!!

canadians invading australia (subversively?)

Aus Askar, thank you.

CloveR333, The Crimson Order, like any other private malitia, do try to gain funding from eGov'ts we help. After all it costs money to move a large force O/S. However, we are loyal to our home countries and their allies. We would not consider fighting for an enemy of our home countries regardless of how much they offered.

Thanks to both of you for sensible comments. Flaming because of personal disagreements/feelings is never helpful. As I, and others, have stated before, we are all on the same side.

CD are helping train our newbies and saving us some money.HOW COULD THEY!

Super christopher you can also say there making eAustralia have higher damage in battles

*Shock horror*

You're right. They make Australia have higher damage in battles, if any of them can be stuffed bothering to fight.

/me wonders why they don't show up.

Ohh yes. Because the country they defend, there government attacks them. Need proof. See article above.

BTW. Timeoin/XG/Binda. before attacking another fighting force (local or international) make sure you acculy supply the majority of yours. Because plenty of AAR soldiers I have chatted to tell me they don't get supplys.

Mr. Griffin i must say i am farely disgusted with this. Again the Devils are being painted as something we are not.

The Crimson Devils are the Australian Division of The Crimson Order. This branch was chosen to be started here due to the Tight bond we had understood that exsisted between Canada and Australia. As the 3rd member of the Brolliance we felt it would be a great chance for us to extend the same option to the Ausseys that we Canadians have, a private militia whom work to 1) defend our home(in the Devils case Australia) and the Brolliance 2) defend the EDEN alliance 3) Protect those whom would be saught out to be oppressed by others.

More over the case you refer to is a young player whom joined and worked less than 3 days and quit the day before he was to be supplied. Would the Australian Army give supplies to some one that was a soldier for only a few days when there was no fighting?

Lastly i will only say this. The Crimson name represents more than you can understand when you stand on the outside looking in. To work in the slave pits is giving up your selfish goals of riches but offers more than any company can pay when you see younger players whom would not be able to afford 15 -20 Q1 Weapons every week on they're smaller salaries get those kind of arms and see them rank up quicker than i did. Because of me efforts they can use they're gold on Houses and training instead of using it to buy Guns to fight with.

I am proud to say "I AM Crimson!"

Feel free to continue the flame war in my article.

Seriously though, XG ask yourself, what does this article/rant achieve?

Yo I have no problem with militias at all but I do have problems with them trying to poach our new citizens, I consider that just not on tbh. Heck if you want me to PM every member of the Crimson Devils then I'll do it, I ain't fussed.

Also I do have a problem with the exorbitant money you ask for deployment, whereas groups like PMTF and Grom do many times the damage for the same gold.