Country Problems (For the people trying to understand)
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This is an article explaining to less clued-in citizens why other citizens are so angry.
There are 2 separate situations, almost unrelated. But only connected by Miyagiyoda.
RUSSIA
Miyagiyoda was approached by Russia because Russia is currently Wiped by Hungary and TWO (Green)
I'm unsure how the deal was worked out and the amount was settled on. But Russia is paying 40 Gold for every region they rent as well as any compensation for us losing congress. Miyagiyoda sees this as valuable because one of the regions is a duplicate resource, meaning we "Technically" gain nothing from having it.
-People like myself are upset about this for a few reasons. Most of us didn't have a clue that it was being considered until Russia had the Air Strike in place. We are used to CP's who don't inform the public, but Miyagiyoda promised to be different.
-We are also upset by the vote that confirmed this would happen. There was an in-game PM vote that only included 17 of our current 30 congress members. We feel that since Miyagiyoda preached acceptance as well as inclusion that he should have included the full congress for this vote.
-This happens as many of us are already upset about renting 5 regions to Brazil. We are already discontent with renting regions, so why add more?
-40 Gold per region is what Brazil pays us currently. We are already not happy about that, why would we accept that same small amount from another country that isn't also offering us "Help and Protection" on top of rent money?
BRAZIL
Recently we wanted to start a Training War vs Brazil. Our soldiers need some fights and we would get that. As Brazil is currently in its own wars, they decided that they didn't want to deal with us as well. So they declined.
Following that, We asked for Western Cape back, offering them a deal so that we could have a Training War (or something) with Uruguay. The deal included us paying them for days they were without full bonus. This was going to be good and most were okay with it. However Brazil has a seemingly Majority Military Unit, CAT that plays by their own rules and doesn't care about us. This group prevented us from winning WC multiple times and we were mad.
The Pot was already stirred and we were looking for new ways to oppose Brazil, reaching out for a solution.
Instead of finding the solution though, Miyagiyoda offered our regions to a large Nation that is friends with Brazil and would not attack them.
And now we've come to a full circle.
We are mad because we have been working very hard with and without the Government at ideas to free South Africa from Brazil without being wiped, since the country has repeatedly expressed that they don't Natural Enemy Brazil for fear of being wiped. We have kept the country in mind (There's a reason I didn't NE Brazil during my CP term) yet when big decisions are made, we feel like our cares and concerns are being left out.
Hopefully this is an unbiased opinion of the situation showing what is going on in South Africa. After hearing Our reasoning to deals that have been made I hope you will make the decision for yourself as to what you think is right. Make your own decisions based on the information presented.
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This was helpful and good
Its time for SA to brake it´s chains!
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Its time for SA to choice, SA FREE OR SA SLAVE FOR BRASIL
You can CHOICE, 40 GODS PER REGION ITS YOUR PRIZE??-
Y think that NO
http://www.erepublik.com/es/main/law/South-Africa/128742
You can be free. Its your choice.
Not our choice if you don't bother to ask or allow us time to deliberate. We ask respect for our processes.
it is our choice you are to used to being brazils ho !!! vote yes !
To be fair about the Congress Members included, I went with the certified list on forums. So the andgst is about me following the existing rules for a major decision and being attacked as undemocratic instead of breaking them and then being attacked as supporting PTOers. I asked for an opinion, an made a decision on it.
As to CUAI freeing us from a voluntary treaty... I have my doubts about how much the care after their performance in Australia and the logic. I prefer being asked what we want instead of yet another foreign power exercising their will on us for their own war. Will they be there when they are done disrupting Brazil for Argentina?
CUA has been recruiting us even since I was CP. Argentina wasn't at war. Despite me throwing everything I had at them to make us look bad, I still had their CP, Leochao trying to work with me. At the time NaN was nonexistent, and CUA was very new.
We didn't have the resources nor the citizen interest in pulling such a big stunt at the time, but it is progressing and I think it is a very important ally.
Uruguay has always treated us fairly, even with me against them.
If only 17 of the 30 congress members are certified than the certification process needs to be looked into.
It has been totally revamped and updated because of this crisis and an incident preventing Kiko doing his work. All South African citizens now are automatically invited to the forum where they have an account that is activated and thus certified when they log in.
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Certified?
Am i dreaming or something?
I probably can't reply/shout. And my access is probably limited or something. Even if certified.
Awesome, i can reply and shout.
Damn this feels good. Still, something's missing.
24 hour mandatory vote, where did that go to !!!
As I explained on forum and in the thread when the forum was shut down, there was a time crisis. What Russia did was propose the AS and held their vote so thst they could activate it as soon as it passed. The 3 hours was the first AS deadline... but the actual vote only passed with substantial discussion 30min before the 2nd AS proposal. Tgst means we took 27 hours to discuss and vote. Still not the preferred 48 hours, but well within an emergency's simultaneous disscuss and vote.
Russia failing their first AS allayed most fears about undue pressure and helped reassure us that they would respect our decision. Brazil also assured me that they were prepared to act if Russia did not honour our vote.
The timeline is the ingame thread. The forum thread started well before that, but the disruption of the shut down and getting as many people friended as possible makes it unfair to include as oart of the discussiin and vote period.
and who is Russia to us anyway, the fact that we were there target and if we said no I can tell u they would have done it anyway says everything about them
Voted!! AS a neighbour, for my own interest and for SA interest I would help to have a free SA. Wake up, now it's the time!!!
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I know what I believe in. And all of this still dont make sense to me anyway. All this did was enforced the way I feel about the situation.
What doesn't make sense? Pickn didn't understand something, so he, (get this) he "asked a question" and I explained it to him.
Thanks for clearing that up. Helps to 'inform' the masses.
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Respect SA!