Congressional Research Results in Lack of Sleep for Virginia Senator
Joshua Tree
In the course of researching certain proposals that are being made in the Congressional forums, I spent a chunk of time that I will NEVER get back : ( poring over the law proposal records of the last 30 days. These are the statistics I found (note that these statistics do not account for the fact that the president also has a vote. If that WERE accounted for, these statistics would be even more dismal):
1- We have had five proposals since the new Congress was elected (listed most recent to oldest):
What proposed by Yes No Attendance:
Tax change: Diamonds NoneSuch: 41 1 82.4%
Buy Construction: Hospital Benn Dover: 42 1 84.3%
Buy Construction: DS Benn Dover: 46 1 92.1%
New Citizen Fee fozamilian11: 6 39 88.2%
Minimum Wage ProggyProp: 12 36 94.1%
Although 80%+ attendance seemed fairly reasonable to me, I am somewhat clever, and being clever, I noticed the beginnings of a trend, where the attendance rate was slowly dropping. But, said I to my clever self, 5 law proposals is not a large enough sampling for conclusive evidence.
Very true, said my clever self back to me; this is why we should examine previous trends over a longer period of time. You are wise beyond your years, I said to my clever self, who was busy studying the records and compiling the following information:
2- The previous Congress had 39 members, from what Emerick has told me. In the first ten days the voting attendance was a VERY steady 71.8%. In fact, while most proposals had 27 votes, the average was 28.2, with the lowest attendance in that first ten days being 26. I would be willing to guess that it was the same 27 people, plus or minus 1 or 2. This means that approximately 10 elected officials weren't even bothering to show up in the first ten days of office, which was a surprising find... my clever self had not expected a full quarter of the senators to drop out in the first week.
3- In the next ten days (the middle 1/3 of the tenure, for those of you who are having a hard time following) the voting attendance dropped from an average 28.2 to 24.2, or 62%. During this period the highest attendance was 29 (once).
4- In the final ten days (do I really need to explain it?) the voting attendance dropped even more significantly (and became more inactive; there were only five proposals in the final ten days, listed here from newest to oldest)
What Proposed by Yes No Attendance
Tax change: Oil Joeph Cole: 18 4 56.4%
Buy Constructions: Hospita Benn Dover: 21 0 53.8%
Tax Change: Iron Justinious: 12 5 43.6%
Buy Constructions: Benn Dover: 20 0 51.3%
Tax Change: Hospital Uncle Sam: 11 11 56.4%
As my clever self pointed out to me, the last one listed here, the Hospital tax change proposal is significant because it underscores one of the points of this article: This proposal was REJECTED due to a tie vote, 11-11. Had the attendance been higher, this would have been less likely, imo. And even if it had been tied with a higher number of votes, it would have been largely due to the fact that the law was apparently not properly ran through the PPPP (see the attached link to the debate area for more details http://erepublikusa.com/forums/index.php?topic=535.0 )...
What is even more interesting is that, had the PPPP system been followed and enforced, the law would likely have been overwhelmingly passed the first time, judging from the fact that, as you can see from the thread of the above linked debate area, it was re-submitted in the PPPP and will likely be re-proposed with a majority Yes vote after all the wrinkles are hammered out. In other words, had Congress known what they were voting on and why, they probably wouldn't have voted against it 11 times.
What else has my clever self deduced from all this research?
A- That I have WAAAAAAAY too much f***ing time on my hands,
B- That based off past trends and the beginning trend line displayed in item 1 above, we are likely to have more senators fall off the wagon, and currently there is really nothing that keeps them accountable. You guys have no idea whether or not I show up to vote, except that I am (hyper)active in the forums. My constituents in Virginia have no idea if I’m doing anything, except if I let them know I am.
C- This is not a deduction so much as a theory, but there is a high probability that the reason we have a higher percentage this Congress than last already is that it happened to coincide with the holiday weekend, and most people, like me, have been sitting around on their asses snacking on leftover turkey. Which means that although we started with a higher percentage than last time, I predict that, unchecked, this Congress will experience a more rapid decline in attendance after this weekend is over.
D- A Speaker of the House position, if exercised properly and consistently, could bring some positive changes
E- It would be fantastic if there was an easy way to keep records of who is active, and even better, what direction they cast their vote in. I think that a senator’s constituents ought to know which way their Congressman is voting, and while Emerick has wisely decided to leave the congressional forum unrestricted for the benefit of John Q. ePublic, there is a significant lack of non-senatorial activity on the forums for whatever reason (there are also a lot of Senators who don’t show up on the forums too often, for that matter). How many citizens are actually doing their civic duty and researching what the Senate is doing? Wouldn’t it be nice if someone was compiling this stuff for the public eye?
F- It’s getting late and I’m pretty tired. I deduced this by the way I keep falling asleep at the keyboard.
In this article I present evidence, with a conclusion based off that evidence. I haven't done much in the way of proposing solutions, I'd like to encourage readers to do that. Use the comment section to make suggestions or present solutions.
Also, in reference to item E above, I'm debating whether it is worth my time to turn this newspaper into a sort of Congressional report card for the benefit of everyday citizens. If that is something you would like to see happen, comment accordingly and feel free to make suggestions as to what you would like to see in that report card.
Jtree
Virginia Senator
Pro-Pie
Comments
We all have too much times on our hands. That's what eRepublik is for. It's a given reason.
So you only have 5 reasons. Insufficient. Fail.
voted as it seems reasonable though I'm not sure a speaker of the house position really gets you much. as it's proposed in the forums, it seems to be a glorified parliamentarian. Fair enough, but I'm not sure it accomplishes a whole lot.
I completely agree with seeing which way senators vote. I'd love to have a statistic that shows the voting activity of a senator in terms of votes/proposed legislation.
To have a true transparent government the citizens need to know what their representatives have voted on and what their votes were. The results of each vote should be published so that citizens can decide if they want to reelect incumbents or not.
Great article Jtree! I think this shows a need for a Congressional/Senatorial chair!!!
@HeadmistressTalia: This is the goal of the congressional report cards. I am happy to put together report cards, but they'll be interactive; i.e. people will have to care enough to vote them up in order for them to be effective. The idea behind the report card is to let the public know who is active on the forums and who is not... all congresspeepz will be given the opportunity to disclose how they voted, and while that is completely voluntary, we as citizens will know how WE should vote in the next round of elections.
Voted
I would love to see a more transparent process. Perhaps it is just my ignorance, but with a few exceptions, I don't know who is introducing what laws or who is voting on them. This would help ensure meaningful elections rather than popularity races.
Excellent article 🙂. And yes voters should always have the ability to see how its congress has voted.
You are absolutely right. You do have too much time on your hands.
I just moved here from sweden so I don't know much about what you crazies are doing over here, but I DO know that there really needs to be a way for us to know what our congressmen are doing. I for one will subscribe to this newspaper if you will give us a regular report of what is going on in Congress
My god. Scary and amazing at the same time. I check my phone every ten seconds to see if there is anything that has happened, congress or not. There are some scary congressman this year. One of them didn't know what an MPP was when it was being discussed. >_>
lol@AidenAstrup: I know, right? What kind of idiot gets elected to Congress and doesn't know what MPP stands for? And then that SAME idiot has the nerve to be even MORE active and try to learn even MORE about what his job as a congressman really is. What really gets me is that he expects other congressmen to do the same. What a jerk.
So as a new citizen here I must it disheartens to hear that ELECTED Officials take off after being elected... Is there no way to know how they are so they can be voted out of office????
I know I am so low in level my voice will carry no weight, but that does not mean I wont one day!
So, to you out there who want my vote one day, tell me how can you make this Government more Transparent!?!?
Loved the Article too!!!
"and became more inactive; there were only five proposals in the final ten days, listed here from newest to oldest"
At the end of the term, most of the active congressmen had already used up their 2 proposals, so it was almost impossible to make new proposals. This is likely to continue each month.
As for speaker of the house, I am not convinced. I think that if we only vote in active citizens to congress, there will be less of an issue. I also feel that individual Party Presidents should exercise more control over the behavior of their congressmen. They are representing those parties after all.
I think that each PP should give extensive guidance to new congressmen, point them in the direction of everything that they need to know, and chase them up if they become inactive.
It needn't be the PP if you have too much work - maybe each party would have a "head congressman" voted in-party, who takes those responsibilities.
@ Angrr: I took that possibility under consideration, but out of 39 congressmen, with 2 proposals each, that is 78 possible, yet there were only approximately 33 proposals last term. Assuming that the entire original 71% remained active that would have still been 55 available proposals. This doesn't include the president's many proposals, which are unlimited.
QUOTE:"It needn't be the PP if you have too much work - maybe each party would have a "head congressman" voted in-party, who takes those responsibilities."
That sounds like a mini 'speaker of the house' for each party to me.
I think what your study shows is a system which is too big for its participants, but shows promise for the future. This is only the first round with 51 seats. We will see an increase in interest in these seats, increased competition for them, and more rigorous standards for the candidates to meet in order to hold them. Before that time comes though, parties will be throwing their weight around to grab as many seats as possible in certain states whose "permanent" residents aren't really active enough to have an impact on the voting process from term to term. More urgently than a speaker of the house, I think we need a restriction on how soon a person can vote once they have moved into a new state. This will give each party a healthy window of time to try and counter the moves of another party to grab a seat at the last minute, if they can counter at all.
Party leaders are coming to the realization that there is new power to be had for the taking (arguably not much power, but power nonetheless). With renewed competition for these seats they will be naturally harder to get. You will have to be active in the media, and you will have to campaign in order to get people's attention. You will have to follow the PPPP and meet the expectations of other congresspersons if you expect not to be met with ridicule when you really do have a valid proposal, and negativity when you attempt to run again. I'm not even sure I will be able to hold my seat against these forces, much less the even more clueless and inactive who were spontaneously elected this first term, only to become inactive or have no sense of the continuity of the congress they were joining.
I also think you should make your paper a participation report card, even though it is impossible to report with specificity which congressmyn are voting and which aren't (rightly so). Maybe it will encourage the kind of activity you suggest is needed for a healthier congress?
As I think about it a little more, the size of committees shouldn't be capped. Instead, let the parties stick as many of their congressmen in any of the committees. The only catch, a Congressman can only serve on 1 committee. So if the large Congressional delegation from USWP wants to put 10 Congressmen on the Tax Change Committee, let them. But if they overload 1 Committee, they cut their power on other committees to most likely only a few.
This would allow the USWP to get bills passed in Committee and sent to the Full Senate. Which is fine. But they as a party still wouldn't
have a majority in the Full Senate to get their bill passed unless others agreed. In the same breath, the Min.Wage Committee might be short on USWP members and thus Wage Changes never get out of Committee, angering their constituents.
All I'm pointing out is that with such a setup, Political Parties have to divide up their Congressional Resources and thus share power. While at the same time creating a vehicle to reward active membership. And non-active membership in Congressional Votes would negative impact the political party, thus making them the cattle-prod on dealing with such a Congressman.
Your wife is going to divorce you with all this time you are spending, better buy her some flowers 🙂
@dubi: I wrote this all on Saturday night... which was her birthday. You'd think I'd be in the drink for that, but listen carefully as I am about to impart wisdom: All you have to do is cram the flowers, the shopping, and all that relationship stuff into the first 3/4 of the day, top it off with enough sex to put her into a coma, and then she doesn't mind WHAT you do because she's busy trying to catch her breath.
Also, as a measure of full disclosure to the beloved PrincessMedyPi and all other wimminz with whom I (and when I say I, I should be saying we all) flirt vigorously- yes I am married, very happily. No she doesn't mind a bit if I talk about MedyPi's lovely chesticles and make out passionately in IRC. My wife is also very clever, and she knows that if I flirt with Princess long enough, eventually I'll get so turned on that I run into the bedroom and have passionate lovemaking sessions with her (my wife, not MedyPi)
JTree I would like to see what the folks in government is doing. If you can do this as part of this paper, count me as a subscriber. I think that if more folks see what their elected official is doing for them (or not doing as seems to be the case) we will get better elections and better government. Voted up!
I cba to read every comment, so excuse me if this has been proposed before. But maybe what we should be doing is keeping an active list of every congressmen at the beginning of a new term and then, we put them on a spread sheet and every time they vote for an article we put that down.
We could do this for every proposed legislation. So, this way, when a new term is about to begin and we vote new congressmen. Not only can we vote for congressmen we agree with but also congressmen that are accountable to show up and vote for this important information.
Another thing we could do is do away with congress all together and let the people vote themselves. A self representative republic, if you will. 🙂
~KJ
I'd be glad to help poll the current congress. We could do it after each week, and you could publish it here.
Virginians for JTree.
Thanks for your hard work.