Congress breaks its own law, doesn't care what you think
ligtreb
UPDATE x2: This article does not mean I am against the tax increases. Admittedly, I haven't read up on the debates, but I don't have a problem with the government trying to maximize revenue, since almost all of our budget goes to the military and war fees. I'm just strongly against the lack of transparency.
UPDATE x3: I did NOT run the ads for this article and do NOT condone the language in them.
UPDATE x4: I wrote a follow-up article to this here. Original article below.
I was in the U.S. Congress for eight terms. I'm usually among the first to defend Congress.
I have never been as disappointed in Congress as I am now.
Check out the country administration page. There are major tax changes being proposed, it looks like many of them will pass. But it's not the tax changes I'm angry about.
Those debate links right now are all in a private section of the eUS forums the overwhelming majority of people can't see. There is no reason a major change to our taxes should've been made in secret. Taxes affect everyone and there is no national security reason to hide debate.
There are definitely things that Congress needs to keep a secret. Anything involving foreign policy, war, peace, MPPs, those very often have very important reasons to stay secret. But stuff like taxes, donations, money issuing, those can be public.
Part of the reason Congress is unpopular is because people don't know what they do. It could only help player retention and interest if they were kept in the loop on what Congress was doing.
Congress broke its own law by doing this. One of my proudest achievements in Congress over my 8 terms was writing and passing a law that required debate links for taxes, donations and money issuing to be public. (UPDATE: Astra Kat G found the link, here it is). That way, more people could get involved in debate and could see what Congress was doing.
But instead, Congress chose to stay secretive and shut the people out on a major decision. Congrats.
Comments
First!
this is why we need SEES
lol, maybe S.E.E.S. had it right after all...
This was a major oversight. I apologize to the American people.
This is why we need Emerick
... Very true...
Sad, but once people get into congress they somewhat forget that they were "people" once, and whom they now see as a threat were the ones that got them into the congress in first place.
Or maybe it was just a mistake? 😛
Conspiracies AREN'T cool.
(If I repeated this, sorry, Im lagging)
Nice. THIS is JOURNALISM!!!
VOTED HARD!!!
Lol. Look, the eAmerica gov't is turning into real life gov't! Hah! Who would have thought. I guess all politicians/leaders really are alike. I thought maybe this would be a relief from the IRL gov't. Apparently not.
Oh how disappointed we all are in you, Congress. Good day madams and sirs.
Heaven forbid we take the debate to the people. It causes scandal...
SEES has had it right for a while now.
This has been first toilet training all over again...
While the proposal threads in question are on private boards, these debates have been held in public for the last two months. One look at the Economy board on the eUS Forums or the newspapers of several prominent senators will see public debate on this very issue. That these links aren't included for the public seems to be an oversight, but saying these talks were held in secret seems like an exaggeration to me. Since the forum admins removed the 'Taxes' board from Congress, the public hasn't had a central place to read about new tax policy. Perhaps we should put it back in to prevent problems like this.
BAD CONGRESS BAD!A
As a former American citizen, I loved it and wished to get involved in politics badly. That said, I am disappointed to see such a huge overhaul be hidden from the people. I hope the Congressman have the integrity to reverse this clandestine production their running here.
-milestailsprower
Czechoslovak Congressman
Ambassador to eAmerica and eCanada
Hey, I wrote an article about these tax bills, but no one noticed. ;_;
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-s-congress-doing-anyway--1237653/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what[..]1/all
Meh, looks like none of my suggestions were taken.
It's true, I think Congress forgot the Public Link act that we passed.
😛
http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,12528.0.html" target="_blank">http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,1252[..].html
Voted hard...
Hey, I voted no.
American's are already getting paid less due to the economy now you want to tax their income even more
Ive seen quite a few laws with debate areas i could not see long before now
Okay, trying to get somebody to see this: I'm able to post in voting records, which I recall not being able to do so previously. Since nothing has changed in my eLife recently, I don't know why I can. I'm not sure what else I can now do, and I'm not sure I want to know the full extent of my new powers. Could somebody fix this?
True dat
voted
Mucho importante stuff. Voted!
I agree.
And, I voted NO on all of them.
Probably because no one noticed it
Ligtreb for prez!
meh, just another day in congress, and you guys wonder why people have been pegging you guys as "elitists" lately
That is bad...
I know I'd find this situation appalling if it was home in eAustralia. I'm also suddenly glad for our 15% income taxes...
I'm pretty sure we have been talking about this for endless months
😁😁 no. 95% of the convos on the board were IMPORT tax related,there was SLIGHT talk which to me just sounded like "we should maybe", and a article by Sydiot. you know I watch that economy board and this came outta left field. and then this got posted, and here we are
http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,20280.0.html" target="_blank">http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,2028[..].html
Don't look at me, I'm not the SoH anymore 🙂
B.S.
Hey ligtreb....don't lump all of the congress together. I voted no to all of them. As well, I know of plenty of other congressman that voted no as well. I do appreciate being thrown under the bus for no apparent reason though.
Forgetting to include a public link doesn't make the tax proposals illegal or not what's best for the country. We're trying to adjust our taxation for the new economy and obstructionists are making it difficult to do it cleanly. This scattershot method of proposals is not a good way to go about it, but the closer we can get to 25/1/1 the better off the country will be.
BLACK_FIST Org = Preston Sage
Forgot that I was on my org's page when I read this.
nice vote
To clarify, this article was not written because I'm against the tax increases. It was written because I'm upset at the lack of transparency.
Voted!.-
If debate was taken to the people nobody would get elected again.
What's this, someone of intelligence and respect proving SEES's point? Nice job Ligtreb. Some were saying things like this for a while but no one listened
tbh I agree with your anger towards the secrecy but I'm confused by the forum link... your proposed "forum law" only stipulates that tax debates be linked ONCE an ingame law is proposed... how is this situation different?
Disgusted! Every single bum should be hung.
US Congress?
Being fgts?
WHAT?
"😉on't look at me, I'm not the SoH anymore 🙂"
Don't look at me, I didn't propose them in-game. 🙂
And I moved all the relevant topics to a new Voting Ledger board for this Congress, which anyone can view.