Citizenship bug and voting [Updated]
Zeb Jolnas
While I'm not a congressman myself I have been informed from several sources that the issue has now been fixed. Congressmen can again only grant citizenships equal to population divided by 10 divided by number of congressmen. Thanks to the admins for swift and correct action on this issue.
Thank you everyone for the outstanding support. And Congratulations to Denmark on fighting off the group of TO'ers
Also I would lke to point out this was not in anyway a government affiliated PTO by Serbia, just a rogue group of individuals, and I would like to especially thank all the Serbs that supported this cause, looking past their nationality and supporting the fight against bugs in the game. Thank you!
Finally I would once again like to thank HoeMarx and BNMaarcher, and the danish org eDeO for funding the add campaign that made it possible to take this article global, thus raising awareness and support, and thanks to MMM-writer Fenris ulven for writing about the issue here http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/fenrisulvens-thoughts-186179/1
Bug Report sent to Admins
The following bug report has just been sent to the admins. I hope everybody will support the petition to save denmark from being exploited by what appears to be a massive bug by pressing "vote".
Quoting the Citizenship Wiki:
"A maximum of 10 % of a country's population possibly being offered citizenship, means a lot. With just one infiltrated congressman, citizenship can be granted to hundreds for a PTO attempt, right?
Actually this is not true. This is because each congress member can only grant citizenship to a maximum number of people out of the total number possible (total number= 10 % of country population). So, in a country with 10.000 citizens, and 40 congressmen, it turns out that an “infiltrated” spy could offer citizenship to a maximum of 25 people. No congressman can grant 26 in a mandate of one month, regardless of how many citizenships are still available out of the initial 1000."
Just so you don't have to look it up when you read below. Of course you are welcome to check if the quote is correct.
The image I posted as attachment can be found here: http://www.zebeyo.dk/citizenships_serb.jpg
Edit:
Also citizenship in fact is more damaging than without, Denmark can raise taxes, remove food from the market and change minimum wage to counter the PTO, but with citizenship, the invaders can just move to another country to work, but still vote in Denmark. In other words the ways to counter a PTO have been severely limited.
Finally I would like to thank the danes HoeMarx and BNMaarcher, and the danish org eDeO for funding the add campaign for the article
🙂
Also thanks to Fenrisulven for picking up this issue as well and spreading the message!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/fenrisulvens-thoughts-186179/1
Bug report:
Denmark is currently being swarmed by a large group of people, whom are all granted citizenship so they can vote by the same 2 people. You can check the list of Danish citizenships, or look at the attached list of people that have been granted citizenship lately by the two serb infiltrators.
According to your own rules listed in the Erepublik Insider here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/citizenship-faq-and-launch-date-869480/1/20
and in the wiki here:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Applying_for_Citizenship
A congressman can give at most his "share" of citizenships. Denmark had around 150 citizens before citizenship but now has 350. If we just use the number of today, 352, each congressman should be able to give 10% of 352 citizens divided by 20 congressmen. That's 352 / 10 /20 = 1,76. Lets say 2 to be fair and count in people that left congress (sharing "their citizenships" among the remaining congressmen). Actually lets say 3 just to be nice. Maaki has alone let in 18 since the 12th of september. Gusterforgrill has let in 14. in other words they have alone let in 32 people, almost equalling the 10% all by themselves.
Citizenship obviously is bugged, and Denmark is about to be taken over by Serbs, stealing the country from the RL danes. Why do I care? Because I'm a 4 time congressman, former president of Denmark, and RL Dane. Many people in Denmark are my RL friends. Most of them will probably stop playing if you do not fix this. Because I am a paying customer, and I expect a game that works as intended, and as described by the administrators. That's right I have bought gold, and I might do it again, however not as long as it is this flawed.
I therefore demand that you revoke all citizenships granted by Maaki, Gusterforgrill and Ocnizal. You may as well revoke any other citizenship that has been granted wrongfully. Several Danes have tried to counter the TO by inviting friends. Furthermore, I request that you cancel all votes placed by anyone that recieved an illegal citizenship from the election.
This is not just a matter of danish independence and the continued existence of a sovereign danish denmark, rather than a serb colony. This is about an error that can be misused in any small country. In other words citizenship does absolutely NOTHING to prevent TO's as it is. Just one person in congress for one month is enough to TO the country the following month.
Please act quickly on this. The bug may destroy an entire country.
Comments
voted, naturally.
-All RL Danes should report this in a Bug Report to the Admins
Voted!
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Spam
Voted, yes its a bug and will be fixed by the admins but why PTO Denmark of all places? No offence or anything but you have only one region and half of these are currently owned by PEACE.
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Why am I not surprised citizenship doesn't work.
Voted. Good luck Denmark.
TO is not a bug 🙂
Same thing hapend to eSerbia
Cya
LOL, Borke92 can't read 🙂
Same happened in the Philippines. I reported to the admins but I am still waiting a reply.
if thats not enough reason to join eden I just don't know what is
voted & Sub.
Again, Serb aggression -- get on it admins
zahlasované
Hahahh yea right...
Pure spam artical 🙂
Good luck
I am new, but i think this happened also to slovenia in the past
Anyway i voted
Borke is younger than my youngest sibling, weird.
why dont u fight versus tht, not just reporting tht u been beaten by Serbs? doesnt everybody have right to apply 4 citisenship in every country? u dont have to report tht to admins, thts just eveidence tht u dont now how to play this game. LET THE BEST WINS!!!! NOT VOTED.
Have you noticed how you are in japan at this very moment? There are numerous other ways for people to get citizenship. I do not say this is not a bug, but the bug report section is not a newspaper.
I can write a newspaper in eSerbia about this, but i doubt many of them would listen. I would advise you to go to denmark if you want to help denmark, instead of beeing in japan cryin' yer arse off...
We are coming!
Zeb was President of Denmark, but ventured out to try a new political scene. He is still among the most active and contributing members to the danish media and economy.
vote!
Its not a bug don't cry, see how much citizenship gives your congresmans this mandate, also have a lot of citizens who live outside of Denmark but vote there.
Voted.
Martin Davitkovski > It doesn't say it's based on citizenships anywhere, but even if that should be the reason, there should be 18 * 20 * 10 = 3600 danish voters - with an average of around 100 votes given per election I doubt that is the reason 😉
voted!
Check Italy, it has also happened to them with the Croats in July, over 20% of population got citizenship, the Ukraine is also suspicious.
"I have reported it and the answer was that the citizenship modul is not yet working, regards."
Of course its a bug.
Voted
/Mr Grandma (PL)
"I have reported it and the answer was that the citizenship modul is not yet working, regards."
-Then I guess we have to take the fight to the next level. BRING FORTH THE CREAM PIES!
It hasn't worked ever since it was implemented. It was suppose to be fixed a month ago but nothing happened. It will not work before the users make it a priority. Otherwise the engineers wont raise a finger.
Make an open letters thread about this and vote it with few hundred votes. That should make the admins realize that their hoax is public.
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Actually i posted this as a public letter as well but apparently it was deleted because it's considered a bug report.
lol, your math is FAIL 😃
oh and listen to Veseli Zombi, let him write his article so more serbs come 😛
Notice to all
vdysan is one of the pTO'ers
SPAM!!
Voted.
I noticed the same thing in eBolivia , which also has a low population (a single congressman granted citizenship to about 15 other players), even though it hasn't been misused this month, it's indeed a big risk for all small nations.
Voted
Marx, is that the way to treat your new congressmen?
just to make things clear coz people reading dont know couple of facts.
- what curent government did is increased taxes to max.
- they are against training wars (as a result new players die out of lack of health).
PTO ? we are not here to PTO we are here to save eDenmark from government that does things i mentioned...
"why dont u fight versus tht, not just reporting tht u been beaten by Serbs? doesnt everybody have right to apply 4 citisenship in every country? u dont have to report tht to admins, thts just eveidence tht u dont now how to play this game."
You're clueless. Citizenship has been implemented precisely to prevent TOs, and the rules of citizenship clearly stated that each congressman could only grant citizenship to a limited number of players, proportional to the population. So, indeed, everybody has a right to apply, but only some can get citizenship. Obviously it doesn't work.
And if it's not corrected, this whole citizenship thing is useless since a single congressman could grant citizenship to hundreds of TOers, who could then similarly get their original citizenship back after the TO. So, the situation regarding TO would be essentially the same as before.
So, except if you call exploiting a bug "not knowing how to play the game", you are very wrong.
And as for "fighting back", a country with 200 registered player can't fight back. A large country like Serbia could easily send more voters than there are registered players in Denmark, let alone active players.
And given what Denmark is (the smallest ecountry, and not involved in any conflict, trying to TO it isn't going to improve anybody's reputation. You could also kick a baby next time to steal his candies and if someone objects, tell him that the baby should learn how to fight.
"PTO ? we are not here to PTO we are here to save eDenmark from government that does things i mentioned..."
In other words you want to take control of Denmark politically, right? That's what PTO means.
I hear exactly the same words from all PTO groups.
-> Clairobscur
Thanks for the support
Clairobscur, maybe its you who doesnt know what is going o in eDenmark. I have more votes than serbs who voted for me 😉 Danes voted for me 😉 So go back to your home and stay out of our business 😉
-> vdysan
LOL FAIL....."danes voted for me"...LOL
Clairobscur, PTO word is related to robing a country. thats why i say we are not doing a PTO 😉
So, in a country with 10.000 citizens, and 40 congressmen, it turns out that an “infiltrated” spy could offer citizenship to a maximum of 25 people. No congressman can grant 26 in a mandate of one month, regardless of how many citizenships are still available out of the initial 1000."
Yeah, I'm a congressman in the Theocratic Nation of South Korea (300 citizen, more or less) and I can give 65 citizenships.
Bug already reported to the admin 15 days ago (more or less)
HoeMarx, you can laugh as much as you want but thing is im wining you are loosing so... 😛