Border confusion in the Northeastern Carpathians
Nalaja
Some of you know well, I'm quite interested in maps, it is a part of my RL profession. The recent Galicia-Lodomeria issue offers a good opportunity to hve a review of the borders in the North-eastern Carpathians, at the northern extremity of Romania.
In eRepublik, it is, and it always was, an issue. last summer, when Hungary advanced through Ukraine to get Podolia from Romania, the process was slowed by the fact, that the regions of Subcarpathia and the Ukrainian Bukovina are not bordered; Subcarpathia connects only to Galicia and Lodomeria in the territory of Ukraine. If you check it now, it is still the present situation. This is in contradiction with the eRepublik map of the area (see above), however when Hungary protested in July, there were no answers and no modifications.
Interestingly enough, there is (or, more precisely, till this morning, there WAS) a border between the Ukrainian region of Galicia and Lodomeria (G&L) and the Romanian region of Maramures. A striking co-incidence, that this border was deleted from the game exactly while Poland, the brand new conqueror of G&L were voting about the NE against Romania. Deleting the border aborted the voting process.
First of all, what could have been in the background of the OLD border system? If we have a look to the RL regional borders of Ukraine, it is clear that G&L does have a border to Romania (and Subcarpathia is really blocked from Bukovina) - the eRep map does not follow the real regional borders. So, the old (now changed) border logic followed the real map, and not the eRepublik map. Now, it follows neither the RL map, nor the eRepublik one. A more detailed topographic map from the Soviet time (see below) further supports this; the rayon on Ivano-Frankovsk (G&L) does connect to Romania.
Any consequence in the eRepublik game flow? Not so much. It means cca. 1.5 days of delay in Poland's original plans and a lot of moral raise there. I want to avoid the charge of 'public debate' so I don't qualify the timing of Plato's quick border change.
Now the NE Carpathians are a real obstacle: cannot be crossed nor from north to south, neither from west to east.
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PLATO UBER ALLES!!!
DEATH TO DOLPHINS!!!
LLL
man they do what thy wont when will we do something ? RIED THIS PLS
EPIC FAIL PLEAS ALL VOTE !! END CHAIN SHOUT PLS !! GLAS I SHOUT MOLAM !! --- >
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/big-epic-fail--1777121/1/20
sor for spam
end v + s + shout
We Will get Romania anyway.
Now, theres no way to stop us, we will swap by USA, we will kill all the dragons, we will kiss german girl, we will do everything to meet with Romanians on the battlefield, i think they are ashamed now...
We will get them even in Philipines, we will fight with them, we will fight fair.
Partiality? Ah no way, it's totally fair!!!
Cheaters gonna cheat.
shame.
Here you say that G&L had border with Maramures. On forum, the Poles says that G&L had border with Bucovina.
At least try to agree about what are you going to cry.
That's just the way it goes...
Did not see this kind of article when eRomania attacked eUkrainian regions and borders ceased to exist overnight .
BTW :When smif ,the eRomanian President back then wrote an article about this issue his article was deleted and he got banned .
I see that related articles in ePoland and eHungary are tolerated 😁 .
So much for Adminlandia advantage 😉
Plato is a rumanian cheater
tic tac
your time is ticking dear eromanians
vladb >> "when Hungary advanced through Ukraine to get Podolia from Romania, the process was slowed by the fact, that the regions of Subcarpathia and the Ukrainian Bukovina are not bordered; Subcarpathia connects only to Galicia and Lodomeria in the territory of Ukraine. If you check it now, it is still the present situation. This is in contradiction with the eRepublik map of the area (see above), however when Hungary protested in July, there were no answers and no modifications."
First U should read the article
i can just say:
1. eRomania sucks. big time.
2. ePlato sucks. a BIG one.
Heidar : I did read the article ,you should read my comment .
Anyway : I should not waste my time because the trend is clear ..eRomanians get helped and ONE si the victim of eRomanians plot .
What do you think we have to gain if ePoland does not attack us now ?
Absolutelly nothing ,in fact we are bored with the war against you ,let the Poles come ..maybe they will erase us ,and what ?
[10:56] .borders Galicia and Lodomeria
[10:56] 10:: Borders of Galicia and Lodomeria, Poland 10:: Turkey: Bukovina, Volhynia, Podolia 10:: Polan😛 Little Poland 10:: Slovakia: Subcarpathia 10:: Romania: Maramures 10::
Fremenul : and we have even bribed the Italian(!) creator of the eRepublik bot to prove. : )
When Romania NEed Hungary second time after the deletion and they wanted to advance into Ukraine there were bugs too, but nobody fixed that. (Teleport from Maramures to Galicia) Now yesterday I was thinking on 'will they fix it or not? Ah they are not that weird.'
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IMHO the word 'awkward' would be more suitable instead of 'weird'
@Fremenul: GTFO. Our problem is clear, sry if you don't understand it.
Great article, Vote! Fail admins!
Naja, és ezen van aki meglepődött?
min is? innermongoliamaxxxx ...
Geography of eRepublik:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/foldrajzora-a-jatek-uzemeltetoinek-1484973/1/20
Romanians telling ur that we cry. Just amazing
In northern Germany, there is the same weird situation, just that there are BOTH borders - those following the eRep map and those following the real life map as well.
Lower Saxony and Bremen has a border with Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.
Schleswig-Holstein and Hamburg has a border with Saxony Anhalt.
Both borders obviously cross, which is physically impossible.
Failmania gonna be cheatermania
This wiki page shows that this ukrainian region had a border with Romania ( Maramures ) : http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Galicia_and_Lodomeria
I really don't know what happened...
@Lyuuline. But this is not the problem. The whole community knows that there are this type of weird situations. The main problem is that they have had 3 years to try to solve it, and they have decided just today. What an awesome coincidence.
Nalaja I love such geographical articles.
I saw it before. Last time I was spending some time looking at Хмельницька область, Поділля and Subcarpatia. Then I realized that erep map is (right now was) correct.
Yeah,i hacked the game,between Poland and Romania there will never be a border : )).Nobody cares when a bug helps our enemy,but when a bug helps us,every ONE in the world turns into a little crying girl.Cichicean \o
@Calin
do you remember your non-combat mode? or it was too much ago? 😉))
this is trolling eat this
http://wiki.erepublik.com/images/2/2a/IA_Action_002.jpg
I wasn't in the game back then.What am i saying is that bugs affect everyone,not just Hungary or Poland.
Calin2009: true enough - what I can mention, is the, khm, quite awkward timing of the 'correction' of that bug.
Vote
modify borders in this situation is a bit lame
Voted!
Maybe now they will fix that "feature" that is a 1 year old 😁
BTW, timing was perfect 😁
Ofc ..we waited for the guys from ER to leave from work ,entered in their HQ and scrateched the HDD that contained the bitmaps for that border.
Scratch -hack FTW 😁
I don't understand anything from the maps you presented but found another one :
http://tedlipien.com/images/Galicia_1897.jpg
LOL @ Plato. You can't stop us
Cheaters gonna cheat x2
"Interestingly enough, there is (or, more precisely, till this morning, there WAS) a border between the Ukrainian region of Galicia and Lodomeria (G&L) and the Romanian region of Maramures. A striking co-incidence, that this border was deleted from the game exactly while Poland, the brand new conqueror of G&L were voting about the NE against Romania. Deleting the border aborted the voting process."
Shameful, such a miserable cheating... it's just soooo blatantly, unbelieveably shameful...
Plato and the Cromanians are a waste of oxigen.
"Cheaters gonna cheat"
Oh, the irony. :😁)))))))
If one is after a Forfeit point this is the right area!
Say what you really think and you will get an FP in not time😃
Bias what bias? Look at a unit called Plato's Army and check where they fight 😃
"Oh, the irony. 😁)))))) "
No, irony is that You did`nt shut your face.
vazze ez még mindig egy romulán játék, nem kell meglepődni
"No, irony is that You did`nt shut your face."
Well, if you want to insult me, better learn English first.
Secondly, I find it hilarious being accused of cheating by an ePole in this game considering your e-country's history. :😁)) Mainly the 60K+ baby boom, v2 clones deployed on the battlefield and not to forget the database hacking.
Na, itt egyik elkotyantotta magat: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-militar-gang-bang-pe-romania-1777169/1/20#comments
thaddaus - Day 1,277, 05:39 [
RO: "....., pana dimineata Maramu avea granita cu Galicia and Lodomeria, adica pana cand, ala in functia la care aspiri tu, a facut ticket si a disparut si granita si leagea de NE a pol pe noi..."
HU: ....ma reggelig Maramu szomszedos volt G&L-el, es meg meddig, az, akinek a szekere vagyakozol nyitot egy "jegyet" es eltunk a hatar es a polksi NE
Good weekend ahead... : - )
Csabycy : and your point is ?
There were several tickets regarding that border .