Belittling Congress
Ian E Coleman
Est. 2010
Thirty-first Edition: Tuesday, May 29, 2012
New Faustian Man: "Threatened"
Recently there has been some interesting reading in the eIrish media. One of eIreland's congressmen, New Faustian Man (NFM), approached the eTurkish Country President about pursuing an alliance with eTurkey. This became an issue after eTurkish representation made an alliance proposal with eIreland based only on correspondence with Congressman NFM. You can read more into this incident here (government's reaction) and here (NFM's self defence).
Now, while this incident is important as a current issue, the details of New Faustian Man vs. the government are not what interest me. What has piqued my interest is one of the matters that NFM brought up in his defence (following an article from the current administration aimed at him).
"...my view (is) that my original intention (to pursue an alliance with eTurkey) was within a congressman's remit, and that the separation of powers built into the game between the executive (CP) and legislature (Congress), allows for this scope; and that the executive (CP) has very little right either to hamper or constrain congress (the legislature) in this manner..." -New Faustian Man ("Threat made to Irish Congressman")
NFM here argues that because the game's mechanics afford him the power to propose alliances, the authority and responsibility to shape foreign affairs should fall to him. Following this logic, Foreign Affairs (alliances), Finance (transfers of money and taxes), Immigration (citizen requests), etc. should all be primarily handled by congress through the free judgement of congress representatives.
This argument interested me because I whole heartedly disagree. I see this as a perfect opportunity to make a point about the mechanics of eRep governments and how congress should behave.
Why I Don't Like Congress
I really don't like Congress, but it's nothing personal - Congress often includes a small collection of high quality citizens (Ministers, high-ranked soldiers, military officers, MU leaders... people who know what's going on).
However, my problems with congress really start on the 25th of the month. Congress elections make no sense, and winning a seat in congress is less about being elected, and more about election planning, and strategy. Our congress is not elected based on their abilities or their track record as public servants, but based on where they run, which party they belong to, and who they know. And does this produce a high quality congress?
No because our congress is generally an ill-informed, poorly disciplined, strategically illiterate group of two-clickers and randoms... and often they don't communicate with each other, and they end up making costly/stupid mistakes...
No, because apparently in the last congress elections, our system worked so well, that Ethel Rosenberg, an upcoming candidate for CP of eIreland, didn't even make it into congress. Was it because no one thought she would make a good congress member this month? I would guess not.
Here are a few possible explanations:
The people who might have voted her in,
- Were told to vote for someone else
- Voted for a less qualified close friend instead
- Didn't vote for her because she wasn't in their party
- Voted for someone else because they thought she would already have enough votes to get in
- Were lazy and lived in a different region
- Voted for someone else who paid them
And then maybe it was just that she ran in the wrong region. But at the end of the day, and at the beginning of every congress term, there are countless great citizens who get overlooked by our election system (I've seen Sw33t, Irasian, Marcus, etc (random examples of people I would want to see in congress who I've seen not get elected)). There are countless more who have been elected despite only being in it for the gold (and then leaving the country), being a PTOer, or being completely clueless. And when the issues surface in front of congress, no matter who it is, or how they got elected, every congress member has an equal say in the result of that proposal. And every congress member has the absolute independent power to choose two new citizens per month.
And ultimately, these are the citizens who we trust with the power to move around our taxes, choose our alliances (which can dictate our entire military strategy), decide which citizen applications to accept (does anyone remember The Bremen Clubhouse?), and decide how much tax we pay (and then what it goes to). Hmmm... and the stupidest thing of all? Willy-nilly, congress can decide who our Country President should be by impeaching our current one for the runner up. Do they need a reason? Nope.
A collection of politically unscrupulous congress representatives, with only three or four votes (to be generous) each to their names, could overthrow the authority of a majority of more than 100 eIrish citizens on a whim by impeaching the elected CP.
Considering how easy it is to fly under the radar and get elected to congress (even while other better candidates will put in more effort, will deserve it more, and will not qualify), it should now be apparent that Congress, by default, is an unbalanced, unstable, and dangerous powerhouse within our political system.
The only way to protect ourselves, is to elected representatives who have the attitude that their powers are a responsibility, and not a privilege to massage their egos.
Let's Play A Game
Irish Rebel Reborn received the support of 125 citizens during Country President elections on May 5, 2012. (reference) He was running among the constituents of eIreland.
New Faustian Man received the support of 4 citizens during Congress elections on May 25, 2012. (reference) He was running among the constituents of a single region (Scotland perhaps? - I'm unsure).
Who should have the power to be making important decisions for eIreland?
Two Idiots Are Dumber Than One
Granted, the powers of congress aren't all in the hands of one congress representative, but in the hands of the collective who will vote on proposals. And yet, I would argue that often, because congress has so many two-clickers, and a good number of poorly informed or uncommitted representatives, the more congress that we have, the worse their performance is likely to be. There was a time when congress communicated on issues and even decided issues before proposing them and voting - that was a long time ago.
My Advice to Congress
If you're in Congress, please don't take this article personally. I know from serving in Congress myself in the past, that there are a lot of bad congress representatives that make it through (case and point, I've been a congress representative). There are also a handful of really good ones each month. The key to being a good congress member is to pay attention to the Ministers and CP.
GOOD CONGRESS REPRESENTATIVES DON'T HAVE EGOS
Don't try to propose something only because its to your benefit. Take into consideration the whole picture, and keep an open mind. Especially if you're new. The best advice when playing eRepublik, is to forget everything you thought you knew about politics and government. eRepublik doesn't work anything like real life, so don't go around trying to raise minimum wage to improve our standard of life, before you bother to notice that minimum wage is an irrelevant piece of legislature and raising it would only serve to destroy eIrleand's military and commune structures.
It only makes sense to me, that our CP should be in charge of forming a cabinet capable of executing one cohesive plan for government. With this method, we've seen longer term planning both financially and militarily. We've seen supply programs and a military that hits above its weight, and an overachievement in our international stature. None of this would be possible under an "anarchocapitalist" model of government. We can't trust an invisible hand to lead us to greatness.
Anyway
Cheers,
Ian E Coleman - The Coleman Global
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Comments
Another quality article Ian
Brilliant piece!
Great and objective article :😁
Congress is good for one thing.
5 gold each month.
"The best advice when playing eRepublik, is to forget everything you thought you knew about politics and government. eRepublik doesn't work anything like real life"
Hope you don't mind me using that quote in future Ian, It's the first rule of erep
"our congress is generally an ill-informed, poorly disciplined, strategically illiterate group of two-clickers and randoms... and often they don't communicate with each other, and they end up making costly/stupid mistakes..."
As a Congressman I am offended by this statement. Also I'm in complete agreement. Maybe not really offended, it's just that I'm one of those "only being in it for the gold."
Another great article Ian.
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I'm with Yddub in this matter but am not offended as it is true or that is my opinion at least.
"I'm one of those "only being in it for the gold."" as well as the occasional piece of information that congress get that the general populace doesn't.
Wait...what? Some of you do it for something OTHER than the gold?
I l'mao. Really.
Brilliant.
Ibhoy one of the most experienced players here didnt get any vote and didnt get elected this month,
Sweet Drinker our MoF for months wasnt elected in past a few times
so I guess congress is not always the most experienced people and some of them being in congress they think they can do the job of a MoFA or anything else,at least if they want to do sth here they could ask advices from more experienced people before they act and NO ONE will deny to help them
Well yes Congress isn't very credible in this game that's for sure. But that's not to say that if some competent Congressman with a good plan comes forward, you can't take him seriously. He/she has still been elected as much so as the President. Remember our President was only elected because there was no serious challenge to him (well he probably stood a great chance of getting in anyway).
So I think you shouldn't completely disregard Congress just because it is fundamentally flawed. I do...
...think New Faustian Man's actions were misguided here, and the President's will should certainly have taken precedence.
But I have a soft spot for Congress and I kinda don't want it to be entirely dismissed.
You are an EDEN country, then why is that you don`t have an alliance with one of the biggest EDEN country? The EDEN helped you a lot, and you know too that Ireland is NOTHING without the EDEN. No offence, but nothing. NFM did the right thing, he tried to get you an MPP. But the mighty and all powerful eIrish leaders, who control everything here, decided that it would be a bad idea. Don`t ask me why, ask them. They know everything folks, trust me. They even know how to fight against Ireland....
....but this is a secret, so shhhh...
However, being an EDEN puppy isn`t so good all the time. Soon you`ll get wiped by the Brits, so I might sign an MPP with Turkey.
NFM made a mistake too ofc, he didn`t asked the congress in-forum, but seriously folks, wtf is this?! You attack him, like he was some kind of a serial killer, when the only liars here are you. And now, I am not talking about you, but the mighty eIrish "maffia".
^ I thought we got rid of this guy??
The Turkey-Bulgaria is a delicate issue for alot of Irish players.
You don't have to be totally intouch with diplomatic relations to understand that an off-the-cuff proposal like that would lead to many onlookers to form their own opinion; I think any sensible person would much prefer that a MPP with Turkey was accompanied by an article from the MoFA.
And I thought that apples can`t talk. But seriously. Actually I never left, only retired from active gaming, because RL >>> erep. A fact that some of you will never understand unfortunately...
Seanan: Well if you love Bulgaria so much then why don`t you leave EDEN? It`s time to decide which alliance you chose and once decided you must be loyal to that alliance. Not just voting down MPP proposals...
Did he say he loved Bulgaria? No, so stop trying to twist things.
The fact of the matter is, it would take some debate to get a Turkish MPP passed in Ireland. That is a fact and NOTHING will change that. Without debate it has very little chance of passing.
Also, this is an excellent article that really has very little to do with Turkey, so can you please just acknowledge one of the finest articles to be written by an e-Irish player and if ya wanna talk about Turkey, do so where that is the actual topic in question please.
IBhoy: NFM should have asked the congress in-game, I know, and it is true. But remember, that he only tried to get an extra MPP, and some of you attacked him like he was -I don`t know- a criminal, or something like that. His intentions were good.
eRep is surprisingly like RL! The only advantage of democracy is that the alternatives are even worse.
NFM nor his intentions are not the subject of this article either. There are 3-4 articles all about NFM and that issue. This one is a more in depth look at why things are run the way they are, and why that way has seen Ireland succeed more than any other nation of it's size.
Turkey can't into Ireland!
Stand firm and don't sell friends for damage, not our style ;😉)
good article
I was elected to Congress, in my first month of playing eRep so this is a very enlightening article for me. I do not believe I should be in Congress (I am the first to say there are more deserving candidates). Though I wanted to be in Congress, not for the gold but for the experience. I hope to play an active role in eIreland in the future, and my purpose for running was to see what the political system was like in eRep and eIreland. I am aware and dissapointed to see that elections are...
decided on co-ordinated voting, not personally opinion on who the individual feels would best deserve Congress. The only possible alternative I can see is if the game allowed for a 5 vote system, whereby you vote #1 for your favourite and then #2 etc., though I can see why that wouldn't be included in game mechanics.Of course I am pleased to have been voted in thanks to the IPP's co-ordinated system as is done in most parties if not all here, though I do not think it should be done. We should
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other noobs should learn from this guy
strive to have the best Congress from the available citiziens in our Country, so as to progress as a nation. We are currently lead well, with plenty of support to new players and free weapons available to use in battle supplied by the IA so things have gone well in the past. This system may be flawed though at least some Congreemen and other citiziens outside Congress are taking it upon themselves to help eIreland progress.
@MUFC92: You commented in the middle of my essay 🙁 lol
Quality journalism and excellent points made about the process of Presidential impeachment and overturning of the popular will. Voted and subscribed. Keep it coming.
Voted. Wish eUK had such quality articles!
Don't you guys still have Emperor Ricardo Cranium in the eUK anymore?
Great article Ian. WHS and I worked on restoring the post of Ceann Comhairle last month, I don't think it's been too successful, but the idea was that the CC would act as a conduit between congress, the CP, and his ministers.
I do have another suggestion though. If there are ten people in congress who actually give a damn, why don't we get together, regardless of our political views and work together to make a difference? The rest of the TD's can then continue on as 5 gold rubber stampers
Clear, direct and with a point, great article..plenty food for thought, well done man..
"NFM here argues that because the game's mechanics afford him the power to propose alliances"
I thought CP's had to propose, and Congress could only vote yes or no on them?
You're correct Dish.
A good read, I'll likely type up my take on Congress tonight.
Malbekh:
Recent events show why CC had little hope of effect: A Congressman can not only bypass the CC, but the CP, the ministries, even the rest of the entire Congress itself.
And after doing so, such actions will be quite vocally defended.
'people in congress who actually give a damn, why don't we get together, regardless of our political views and work together to make a difference?'
That's whats been happening, it's why just about everything has been accomplished
Great article!! A brilliant and unbiased representation of what I am sure happens in every eCountry. I applaud you, Mr. Coleman!!
Yes.
excellent article
Very great article ,summarises alot of true points