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After enjoying once again an interesting read, - not much surprise to see who is in the gov, guess who is running next month😁 - time for some realism:

1) I believe a survey just pointed out that our people don't want to negotiate over our own regions
2. More laws... yeey
3) Great! But promotion of IRC has been tried and proven idle, organized battles hardly any effect and Bewbs for Newbs still active as I remember.
On Belgium: after effectively driving them from neutral neighbor to hostile back then, facing TWO now seems another brilliant idea.. Now I know you got a great sense of humor, but come on....
4) Tried that very hard during my term - well, hard work, little effect - doesn't sound like you actually 😉))
5) Already there except for the lack of people willing to supply

So, hmm I am not convinced (and still a little concerned over our gold reserve).Anyway, good luck!

ZM, I gotta say I love your negative outlook. Do you have better ideas? I would love to hear them.

I am never negative, only realistic when I have to. Anyway, read my program when I ran 2 months ago, I still believe this is the way. But due to lack of time I could not run for a second term, especially since it is a hell of a job and you need a very active team to rely on to make things happen.

Oh and I now see I wrote TWO in my haste this afternoon - my bad >> ofc CoT

you have my vote! 🙂

"I think our focus should be getting back some of our basic region, no matter the cost."

Go against the voice of people who don't want to negotiate and/or pay for regions (no matter the cost implicates a deal of NL paying for a region).

You want to unite this country 😃 all I seen so far is stirring up internal friction and no uniting.

People don't like the idea to donate for weapons so I think they won't like the idea to pay for our own regions... "No matter the cost" is not acceptable Auggustus. Here I am sorry but can't agree with you. Making a dialog with community and your opposition in this rough times would be excellent idea because our nation must stick together...

I think your missing the point of my argument. Im just saying that if needed we should not close all the doors. Of course I would love to liberate the regions through fighting for it. The truth of the matter is that the damage of poland > the damage of the eNL. Its a fact. Sometimes a CP must explore options that are not the most favorable. But to leave a stone unturned due to popular demand is insane. If I did find a deal with Poland, in the end it would be the congress who would decide it and not me. The job of a CP should be looking towards the future and examine all paths. Popular and unpopular. People need to stop thinking emotionally and think rationally.

For completeness, since people are referring to it:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-demnl-uitslag-onderhandelen-of-vechten-outcome-negotiate-or-fight--2236737/1/20
66% of our population thinks we should fight. The Polish simply cannot be trusted, as they broke past deals we had with them, and ignored our request to alter the last one. As far as I know, we didn't even get a reply that they weren't prepared to discuss the terms...

Thanks djirtsdew!

Good luck Auggy

Voted!

Good luck!

Why would we harass the Belgians and damage our standard with Norway and Ireland?

zucht/sigh....

people care about eBE?

because eRep is a utopia and we shouldn't attack anyone?

Of course we should play military strategy, but it looks borderline suicidal to attack eBE instead of working long-term to liberate regions from ePL. And we can't keep our regions if we don't have lots of help from other countries, including smaller ones near us.

This idea of attacking eBE is silly and I oppose it. We can't realistically keep our own single region, how could we keep another country under our control?

Ok its time for you to read. I said first priority was to liberate the NL. I said attacking eBElgium as a joke and a reference to the last time I was CP. We enjoyed an active month, increased community activity and a mini BB. In the end we returned all the regioons to Belgium. It was never my intent to occupy them. Also at the time eBE was under PTO threat and from what I have heard they are now PTO'd.... so.

Already voted for NO negotiations , so no Vote from me

The last time we saw Auggustus's madness it costed us millions, let's not make that same mistake again!

How can you judge while not being on the forum? Or are you there under your 'other name'?

Very easy; I read lots of articles, and there are many other ways to be informed then the forum.

But you never know the complete story. Thats needed for making real comments. The government published four articles if Im correct this term. Lets hope they did more than that!

Look in the comments from last article. You will find two links. where congress voted and approved the plan. The admins screwed up 4 weeks later. So its easy to judge if your read the story you want to hear and reading all the facts. vS was even one of the people who approved it. in fact it was passed with 100% yes vote from congress.

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Well, well, you are talking like you are the CP already..

eNetherlands, brace yourself, for we are going to talk with ePoland...

Further, Auggustus had been throwing with money in the past.. He is certainly not really bugdet-competent.

Can you please elaborate because I have no idea what your talking about?

The admins ruined that. If admins didn't changed the module. We would have been rich. And if we didn't bought that and admins didn't changed the module. Then you were crying that we missed the change to earn money.

And how many months we are fighting against poland. Do you have seen anything changed in all those months? We have to try to negotiate with them. But not pay for our country. Then fight. But first try diplomatic.

That has been tried many times. The pink is to arrogant to take a small country as eNL serious. The only way they give us a region back is when we pay for it. I say NO to paying for what's rightfully OURS!!

We shall never talk with our oppressor.

there are always if's and but's....... if my dog said miauw it would've been my cat.

Fact still is that alot of money was lost with a gamble , if you wanna gamble you should go to a casino.

About the negotiating ...see how the Pink treat there allies and so called "friends"
They attacked and tried to wipe russia to get at china......and plenty more of those kind of things.
The Pink are there just for the Pink they know they have the upperhand and will sqeeze everyone as long as they can and everyone lets them.
Making deals with them only plays right up their alley, no more RW's ,result they have all the time in the world to expand again.
So it might seem a very good option to negotiate, but in the long run it's gonna bite you in the ass.
Just coz the Pink have the a bad trackrecord in keeping agreements.

So to me negotiating is no option , just for some bonusses and a region on the map......to me it would be a cheap sell out and might as well ask the Pink politely if they would be so all mighty generous to let us join their empire... (cynical... , before it gets mis interpretated)
Or in other words , drop our pants and bend over ....to be slaves

We have tried to negotiate time and time again...they break deals. Nothing has changed when we negotiate either, its always the same. They try to make the Netherlands pay for what is rightfully hers and after a month or two they just invade again.

to be honest we broke deals with them as well. So we cannot be trusted either. When push comes to shove they win because they are the bully. If we could rent the region out to them, it would probably help us out in the long term as well as them. I think all options should be explored. As I stated before its for a CP to look at all the options popular or unpopular. Congress decides in the end, the CP looks at all the options. to say no is an arrogant approach. I myself fought elgorro on this very issue. But i think it takes a leader to put feelings aside and look at all the options. If they are not interested, then fine, at least we explored the option.

Auggustus not for CP!

funny that the people that don't want to negotiate are also the people that had the most problems last congress elections.

Honestly speaking, hidsight is a bliss. I witnessed within 6 months the Gold price go from CC 2500 to CC 4000 to less than CC 300 (not it is lurking around CC 200).

At the time I began playing the game, it made all sense to use Gold, a daily wage was like CC 400 lol and the factories you could buy with CC were dirty cheap. I don't think is right to disqualify his government on a calculated risk that didn't pay off (if it had, we'd be praising him for thousands of Gold produced).

I'm very wary of Auggustus reckless foreign relations approach, it will make us lose international friends and become just a bunch of angry people not to be trusted or taken seriously. We're small, we need to have a good international image to attract support and guarantee us transit withing new alliances and so on.

Auggustus for president!! Good luck!! : )

Good luck Auggustus

I quote, "Democratisch Nederland hopes the government will adapt this outcome and won't negotiate with Poland anytime."

But now ElGorro is willing to work for a government and throw his party's support behind it in which its policies would be to negotiate with Poland, something he has strongly advised against since 66% wish to fight.

Is this the kind of flip flop politicians the Netherlands needs? Saying one thing one week, doing the opposite the next...

sure let's stay wiped! if we don't even try to negotiate we don't know what is possible, perhaps we will get something that favors us. how can we get so worked up about 7,5 gold "lost" in congress elections, but not think about the long term benefits to our country if we have regions.

If it is what the majority would like, then do it. Its in your job descriptions as Ministers and Congress Men of the Netherlands. Your job is to serve the Netherlands. I don't know how much more plain this can get.

Joshua, again. I personally think negotiate is the only way to success. But I dont read in the article Auggy is planning to start with negotiations. We wont exclude the option though. If there is enough support of doing that, DemNL wont opose it. If a majority is against, we would advise the gov not to do that.

Please read again ElGorro.
"1)Get the eNL back on the map! Even if it means negotiation with Poland, our country needs a region too call its own!"

Jup. So he is not planning to start with negotiations, but dont exclude it as a last resort option. I agree with that.

Good luck!! You seem to me a very good president!

That you came back to eNL is one thing, having the nerve to run for CP is indeed sheer madness. You should have been banned for life for a role in any government just like NoTie is without even proof of his actions. In your case there is proof but you can just keep on acting as if you're a victim of circumstances. The harm you did to eNL (Twice at least) can not be forgiven. I hope people will read this for starters; http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/nieuwsbrief-mof-oktober-2012-2135399/1/20.

Auggustus:" Can you please elaborate because I have no idea what your talking about?" 😃 this might give a memory flash back 😃 ?!