Attack on the Belgian UK Region - A Simple Statement
Dishmcds
The argument is not so simple.
According to the admins, when the MPP's activate for a defending country, they remain active. Fair enough. They've retaken the French regions. Fair Enough. They've fought hard and I commend them for it.
But let me point out simple flaws in the admin's set up of the war module, and why it's rediculous:
When we took Lower Normandy, we were supposed to receive a part of the French Treasury. I accepted that it was only 40 Francs or so, because they had removed all their money. When they retook it, they received 100 Gold and 7000 GBP's. I asked George himself on the issue, as it was my understanding that they only received portions of my treasury when they took UK regions.
His response was the since we took Lower Normandy, it became a UK region. That's why they were able to get some of our treasury.
Yet we were not allowed to defend it as UK territory, as our MPP's were not active.
Fair Enough. I accepted that as well.
Now the French, even going against what Elvea said in her previous 8 interviews, have attacked a UK region, in eBelgium. Belgium merged with the UK way back in April, by choice, and is a UK region pre-V1. And we're still not allowed to use an MPP to defend it.
Not to mention they can use their MPP's to attack it.
So, I'll say this, and I don't care who says what.
If the war module is not fixed and/or stopped, corrected, and so on, then I'm done. Start the impeachment now, if you'd like. The fact of the matter is, that the admin team has purposely violated both #1 and #2 of their own rules. You cannot consider something "UK territory" under one rule and not under the other. If you're going to take money from me under one, then you must allow me to defend it properly under the other.
George, Cristi, Alexis, Bogdan, and so on, if it's not corrected, I'm leaving and I'm sure there are others. I understand why protective pacts are used to defend French regions, but you're being rediculous and shortsighted in it's application.
I don't care what it takes. I don't want to hear counterarguments nor reasoning as to why you can't do this or that. If it isn't fixed, I won't log into Erepublik anymore. I've written 500 articles in support, I've spent more time than most of your dev team working on developing two different countries over the last year, and I have every right to be pissed that you're inability to get things right is causing this situation.
Have fun in Erepublik. They might as well make a rule in the Big Ten that says you can't mess with Romania or France. That's how they treat it anyway.
Cheers, most likely for good.
Dishmcds
Extremely pissed off, dedicated Erepublik citizen, for more than a year now.
Comments
Well said.
agreed and voted
Voted, don't think it's deliberate just one hell of a bug turning France into a juggernaut.
Well reasoned. This is a bug that needs to be fixed immediately, and if it will take time to fix, then the war module needs to be suspended.
Voted
It's no bug. Next time learn the rules before going all "arrr let's carve the frog land for ourselves! arrr".
voted
Well guess what? The rules are messed up and hypocritical. He isn't saying "OMG A BUG", he is saying "This rule completely contradicts two others, and makes no sense anyway"
agreed, voted
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/la-belgique-aura-le-choix-belgium-will-have-the-choice-713151/1
bug or not this is the trueth
"Next time learn the rules before going all "arrr let's carve the frog land for ourselves! arrr"
SbriSa: What exactly is "trueth"? Not sure, it isnt in the regular English dictionary. Maybe I should check another?
What euphonix said.
I agree with people that say you should be acquainted with the rules. However, it is impossible to know all the ins-and-outs of rules that stand contradictory to each other.
@Billy Bob: For them to know what I said, they'd have to actually be able to comprehend what I said first. Something they seem to be unable to do.
no problem Discmcds
i tell u when we dine in london doing a chat in French
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He's not blaming ignorance of rules you halfwits it's the fact the MPPs need fixing because they're wrong.
If you're not going to agree, don't bother posting because nobody gives a damn what you have to say.
@SbriSa: Can you spell anything correctly? Were you addressing me?
Well said and agreed. The MPPs are severly screwed. Its supposed to activate when a region is attacked no matter who started the war.
Voted, that's messed up.
Seems, they rushed the game to V! status and want people to pay for too many bugs and then sit back and "ENJOY THE GAME"!!!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/to-dear-admin-here-is-a-suggestion-about-banned-users-713134/1
What kind of time frame are you giving them to respond, Dishmcds?
Well let's clear some point. These are not bugs, these are the rules. Screwed rules maybe, but this are the rules, and it was known form the beginning that Belgian territory was not ORIGINAL UK territory. For the game rules they behave like an occupied territory
A RW could start in Belgium, and THEY are not covered by the MPP. We could agree it is stupid rules, but it's not a bug and it's the same for everybody.
So when YOU started a war hoping to conquer France you Should have known better, or at least reading well the rules of the game you are playing.
You should have known what were the possible gain and what were the risk of your action.
Know you have two simple choice:
behaving as grownup: standing the heat and doing the best for your country (fighting or looking for diplomatic agreement whatever, my tip: usually u need to do both)
or crying like in this silly article: rules are bad! i didn't know it! Frogs promised not to beat us! Bad frogs! I wanna win, nut they fight back! I wanna my mum! STOP this!
Your choice Mr President.
Gosh... I find incredible British could vote this kind of people. I saw brave UK soldier fighting against me, but as usual politician are of another race.
@Ombrone: I responded to your comment in the other article.
Cheers for typing that much though. Must have taken quite a bit of time.
@dishmcds maybe you should post only one article.
Voted and agreed.
a simple solution to solve the banned users problem:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/to-dear-admin-here-is-a-suggestion-about-banned-users-713134/1
@Dishmcds: dato che non parlo bene l inglese ti rispondo cosi, se abiti in una nazione di mozzarelle sempre bagnate non è colpa mia! cambia paese
se nella tua famiglia ci sono seri problemi anche questa non è colpa mia, fatti curare non al tua paese dato che la media non si alza dalla tua, qui in italia ce ne sono parecchi bravi
ora va a mangiare un po di fish and chips fatti una pippa e vai a dormire, domani ci inventiamo un altra cosa su cui sfottervi
INGLESI PORCELLI!!!
I can understand how the rules are based to support the defender. New users don't want to make accounts only to realize that their country doesn't exist.
However, it does not make sense that you would lose a major part of your treasury when they retook their own land. It's not like the aggressors are pouring their resources into the new region.
It also doesn't make sense that they can use MPPs against you when attacking a region that never belonged to them.
the Queen is with us!!
u are to fool!
SbriSa = Troll
Dish, I'm sorry to hear this, but I can understand your reasoning.
Simply stated, the MPP rules as they exist now would allow PEACE to jointly attack any and all US, UK, Canadian, Swedish, Norwegian and Romanian territory as part of their "defensive alliance." They could conquer half the globe by "defending themselves." The MPP system is illogical and ridiculous.
I agree, if a portion of a country's national reserve is at stake for every region whether homeland or conquered, it damn well should activate an MPP!
That said, I would have to argue that conquered regions should NOT yield a portion of the conquering country's national reserve when the defender takes it back. Not only because of the MPP thing, but also because it just doesn't make any sense. In the real world, countries don't place portions of their national reserves in places they've conquered, that would be silly. I see no reason why an e-nation would either.
Perhaps a portion of what the conqueror TOOK when they conquered in the first place (or maybe even all or close to all if it's in the same war/time period in the war), that I could understand, they'd be reclaiming their monetary reserves from their attacker.
About the Belgium deal, that wasn't even a french region! Why would France be allowed to attack it with their MPPs when it was never French in the first place! Also, the MPP thing again, the country democratically chose to merge into Britain, that should render the region British in the face of MPPs, and treasuries too in that case.
Yes, I know, some of it parrots what Dish said, but some doesn't.
Dish, you have my 100% support in this decision, and I hope that they actually fix this, otherwise the game will be losing a quite irreplaceable player and contributor. I wish you luck.
@Eugene I see, I didn't realize it lets them go on the offensive using them... I agree, it doesn't make sense.
agreed, I"m not terribly upset about the US being pushed out of France, but the fact that they got $$ out of us and we didn't get it vice-versa and the MPP's rules being screwed up is VERY aggrivating, I'll leave too there's no reason to play this game if it's that screwy.
Everyone knows that V1 is the real beta, sooo many things yet to be fixed.
In a fair fight the United States and England could take out all of the PEACE nations. But seeing as we cant fight along side eachother they win every battle. All we can hope for now is that they attack a British territory that activates the MPP so we can blow them all to hell.
the admins need to sort this BS ASAP.
Inconsistency can be the main downfall of any poorly designed game. If the admin are saying beta is over and things like this that clearly give 1 side of the game an advantage over another, regardless of which side it is will always anger players and make them quit.
You can bet your ass if the role was reversed the French would be complaining up a storm if they didn't have their MPP's and we did.
Well written and voted. Seems that the admin have a favourite to win this war.
Agreed Dish. It can not be "The New World" id they're so caught up in witch region belonged to who.
great article voted
Excellent article. We'll miss you, Dish, if indeed you go.
voted!
I just think that if the war had not won'd raised all these issues
if you studied the rules could happen 2 things:
1-you better organized and maybe you could also win
2-why not put notavate that with the mpp andavate only to lose and would be too difficult to succeed in business
but you know what is success? you're stupid and you are complaining of rules that go against you in war ...
the point is what they say as many others ... study the rules and maybe complain FIRST with the admin?
dicmnond leaves the game and go to play risiko alone maybe you invent the rules you
X GLI ITALINI: scommetto che dish mi risponderà male dicendo che non capisce un piffero del mio inglese, se è cosi il primo di voi che accetta la scommessa si becca 2 gold se dish fa quello che ho detto(voi non perdete nulla)
Agreed and voted. Yet to see an admin response though 😘(
BRILLIANT
hey sbri, first of all, obvious troll is obvious.
secondly, to use your own argument against you, the only reason you're attacking us for bringing this up and demanding it be fixed... is it's working in your favor.
I haven't seen ANYBODY demanding reserves or territories refunded, we just want to see it fixed before any more war takes place.