Attack of the Zombies and the Conspiracies!
Gaius Julius
Hello America, today I am here to present plain and simple facts to you. Over the past days we have seen a series of exchanges between two polarized sides. On one side is the USWP, they say they have a new congressional plan focused not on gaining them power but helping America. On the other side is a coalition based on "holy S*** we don't want a USWP dictatorship. So what are all these facts I am talking about, I intend to tell you what all of this really means for the eUS.
A Status Quo we can not afford to live with
The day we tried to impeach uncle sam for losing the Mexican War something changed in our nation. It was something obvious but rather a subtle shift in how we went about the process of being America. Thats right we fundamentally altered a part of what makes our nation great. We're brash and we liked to take risks. Operation Taco Bell was a risk and though we lost in the end, did we really need to try to impeach our President. The USWP congress members pushed for this impeachment (quote from Jewitt). Why would they do this? Well simply put Sam's actions represented a threat. When the USWP slapped down Sam they we're sending a clear message. They want to control all actions that occur, they essentially ushered in a new status quo of that perpetuates the idea that taking a risk is not worth the potential pay off. This is a horrible approach for governing the eUS. Risks are an essential part of eRepublik, if we don't take risks we can never hope to gain a high iron region, beat our enemies or see America top the power list. Countries like Romania and Indonesia take big risks and sure they hurt them sometimes, but often they pay off big. The last term of a USWP Congress and Presidency has been nothing but a big game of risk control and don't rock the boat. The USWP would never push taking a risk such as Sam did because they're afraid what it may mean for their control of the government.
"We don't intentionally place candidates against other good incumbents." (USWP member)
This is one of the key parts of the 52 State plan. Essentially they are saying that if there is someone who has been a good Congressmen then they don't want to see that person kicked out of their seat as much as anyone else. But is this true? I can recount one reason it is not. Tiacha is a two term Congresswomen from NJ (former now that she has resigned). If someone asked me or just about anyone to define the example of great congress work I'd describe Tiacha. So when Tiacha asked to run under the USWP because she cant run as a fed you'd expect they'd jump at having her, after all they want great people in Congress. What did she get? A big NO, the fact of the matter is that though the USWP says they want the best people in Congress they have failed to supply what the best means.
Polarization...Good or Bad?
One of the accusations leveraged on both sides is, why are you polarizing the eUS? The last thing we need is a two party system in the eUS! The USWP has leveled attacks on some of those who attended the Rightcon, saying we are seeking to polarize eUS and are doing it for our own greed. I personally have been told that if my party chooses to go along with this right wing effort then we will be blocked by the possible USWP majority in our own efforts. The USWP claims that their actions are innocent and hold no ill will, I now choose to assert the same thing. After all how is the Rights movement for organization and coordination any different than the USWP? We likewise seek to only see high quality candidates run for office and help the eUS. However there is one difference we did not intentionally create this USWP v. the rest mentality. It was created when the USWP intentionally made a move to push out the voice of other parties. In the end however this backlash may be good for America. No matter which way Congress trends next month, we will see a unification like never before. The result may be more cohesive policies and approaches to governance.
I hope the you take the ideas and facts I have presented. I hope you take the time to reflect on what is best for the eUS. To find some kind of conclusion to this article I'll use a token of information from top conspiracy theorist Jewitt.
"If we live in an eAmerica that values quantity over quality, then give me a ticket to Pakistan now."
-Jewitt
-Gaius Julius
Federalist Party President
Constitutional Convention Delegate
Comments
1) USWP members were not alone in pushing for impeachment. Others supported it just like we did. To act as if the impeachment was solely USWP-backed is disingenuous.
2) Sure, we don't take idiotic risks. Like opening up 3 battles when your weapons market is completely dry. If that's a good risk to you, I don't know what to say, frankly. We're working on building up the army, and then seeing where we can go.
3) Lowell Kennedy, the candidate taking Tiacha's potential USWP endorsement, is a wonderfully qualified candidate and a top 30 nationally ranked player. He should get the nomination over Tiacha, no matter how good of a congresswoman she is.
4) I'd like to see sources for these "threats" you've received from the USWP.
5) At the end, you basically admit to doing exactly what you are chastising us for doing. Am I missing something?
HR
I agree with the USWP's philosophy of taking small risks but I do not agree with the way eUSA politics have gone in the past couple months. Yes, with a bigger percentage of the same party in congress bills will get passed faster. But the side effect to that is bad ideas get passed because the majority is all following the same philosophy. The results of the upcoming congress elections will prove what the current eUSA is thinking.
I highly doubt the USWP gets anything close to a majority.
@HR:
1.) It was uswp that led the way on that impeachment, especially the first one for failure in the war.
2.)Im talking about efforts to use PTO's and pay gold to go through Russia's territory.
3.)Proggy himelef said they made an effort to not run in states where good incumbents were. Why cant lowell simply run in utah, inactive incompetent congressmen there.
4.) I wont disclose who said those threats, but if you ask the USWP leaders they can point you in the right direction.
5.) I said I was stating the facts, I did not say they were inherently bad. I was simply trying to end on a positive note.
-Gaius Julius
I did vote for the impeachment, but I did it because Sam was a loose cannon and was failing to keep the other branches informed of his actions/spending.
The difference between the "righties" is that we're a COLLATION - each party has different beliefs. We don't subscribe to one single philosophy. We don't have a grand leader. We're working together because we want what's best (or what WE think is best) for the country. And if we decide that another party is hurting us, even if they're a "rightie" then we can dump them...
Gaius, I am a USWP leader. I have no idea what you're talking about.
The USWP proposed the impeachment. It was universally supported by congress.
Yea for propaganda! Vote uswp!
Talia: Spoken clearly and perfectly.
Gaius: Be sure to make a distinction between the actual first impeachment, which was a "Lulz" proposal at the beginning of March and should not be associated with the two impeachments which came later on in the month as an attempt to oust Sam for real. Some may get confused with the terminology.
@HR: Once again there were two impeachment proposals, one was voted down one was confirmed. The one sam lost was for failure to inform the other branches and poor transparency practices. The USWP led the first one for impeachment as a failure to win the war. As for the person who sent I dont want to reveal it publicly, if you want then pm and ill say.
That's not the point, Gaius. The point is, no matter why or how it was proposed, it was supported by over 75% of Congress, which Jewitt can attest to.
But I am drawing a clear line of distinction between trying to impeach him for bad practices (gold and what not) which i voted yes on. And impeaching him for failing at the war, which was a 23-24 vote in congress.
Why am I used as a reference point now for authority? I will admit, the final impeachment passed did have support from about 3/4 of the active congressmen. Mostly due to frustration, incompetence, and his unofficial resignation where he said "screw you all."
@HT: That is my point about USWP having a big percentage in congress. It shouldn't happen that if one party thinks one way it happens. That is why the parties should be balanced so one party can't call all the shots. I'm not saying it's cheap that the USWP has the highest amount of congressmen/women. I'm saying that eAmerica is heading down a dangerous path of less and less parties in congress and more and more majorities.
'USWP dictatorship'? Oh brother.
As a sitting congress guy seeking re-election, I am on neither of your alleged 'two polarized sides.' I see good people to work with in all parties. And, if re-elected by the people of eOregon, I will continue to work with them regardless of what 'side' they are supposedly on.
Well I seems that this article is composed of Jewitt's article and and then a new section on right con. So for most of it refer to the discussion that has already been held on Jewitt's article.
Now on to Jewitt:
1. Jewitt has been confirmed saying: "I" "support" "child" "Labor""." as well as "I" "believe" "a" "monarchy" "controlled" "by" "me" "is" "the" "only" "option" "for" "America""."
Quotes may or may not have been taken at the same time.
2. ": I am a chronic Albanian baby slaughterer"
This man is a monster! Can we really believe anything he says?!?! So think of the children and ignore all of his arguments because it is the most rational thing to do.
3.": http://www.youtube.com/watch?*concealed to protect copyright*"
Jewitt also supports illegal sharing of music. Do you know who else supports sharing? Fascists/Communists/Hippies(Pick whichever you hate most)
On rightcon:
I think it is awesome that it happened and I am sad if this was the first time. It seems like an awesome concept but at the same time it means all the arguments about the USWP being evil kind of cross apply? I think Talia makes an interesting point but one that I don't quite understand. Part of the idea of the 52 states plan is to eliminate parts of our party we don't agree with who other wise would get the auto support of the party and if that is our only means by which to do so should we just let them run instead?
Shall we ever move on? What shall we accomplish if we continue to argue. Brothers, we are all of one nation. Let us put differences behind and work for a great America. Let bigots be bigots.
All I'm going to say is that anti-USWP articles get a shitton of votes, while pro-USWP articles get a moderate amount. It's obvious that America wants more than just USWP, and if USWP is going to push for control, then it's about time that the rest of us stand up and say, "no."
I think USWP is just trying to do what any party would do and Rightcon is the answer to that, which makes sense. Whatever side someone is on, they should vote for who the best candidate is and not for an individual party.
The danger of trying to put someone in all of the states from one's own party is that one party may not have the 52 best candidates in the country and the party can win because of the zombies, which would in turn create a congress that is less than it could be. (No, that doesn't mean there's a conspiracy; just a cause for concern).
Preach it.
USWP stealin mah Gold and me wimmenz. Come on.
lord more fed BS. Yes the problem is simple we have members and we are active. Sorry about that. The feds get mad because they have to ride on the coat tails of others just to get into congress.
Because, you know, articles are never voted up by individuals and their organizations and their vote number reflects only random individual support.....
They're stealing gold now? Sheesh... I *knew* they were evilz.
While I have always appreciated your diligence and passion Gaius, I believe it is also important for your readers to know that not once have I received any form of communication from you directly regarding our efforts to provide quality choices for the voters on April 25th 2009. Since you speak for your party, I would think that the foremost exercise to establishing the credibility of your article, before writing it, would have been to contact the president of the USWP and determine our intent prior to making such broad accusations regarding our motivations.
However, since you have chosen to eschew dialogue, I offer a comprehensive response in this article to exactly this type of unfounded rhetoric:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/from-inside-the-uswp-a-simple-plan--783032/1/20
While I find your article to be great entertainment for its promulgation of conspiracy theories, it does not provide solutions to the actual challenges facing the nation that you have selectively omitted from your article.
Respectfully,
Ananias - Florida Congressman
Party President, United States Workers Party
'm not really sure it's a great idea to rehash the impeachment of Uncle Sam, but I would point out that the particular congress that did it had the fewest USWP members in recent memory.
It happened because, in spite of the fact that I think Uncle Sam is a great guy, and a patriot, he blew the strategy in the Mexican War. Then he failed continuously to communicate with Congress about how he was spending funds.
If it was a straight up or down vote based on the USWP, Uncle Sam would've been fine. At that point, I believe the USWP had a whopping 30% of Congress. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. It takes 66% percent to impeach a President.
Uncle Sam got impeached because America needed to stop the bleeding. It wasn't a USWP coup.
I'm not an insider, so I don't know if Tiacha was somehow shoved aside in a dirty partisan move. If she was, I think it's shameful. If so, the US lost out, because she's been a great Congressperson.
Personally, when I endorse/correspond with/vote for Congresspersons, I don't think eRepublik party affiliations play much into my support. I look for smart people who are dedicated to the US. Frankly, if anything about a third of the congresspersons I support are USWP, even though that's my "official" party when I'm back in the states.
It may be that somehow the USWP ekes out a 26 seat majority in this congress, and Scrabman and the congress rule us all with an iron thumb.
But even if the USWP is somehow that successful (far outpacing anything it's ever done in a 5-party system) has anyone thought of the fact that Scrab will still have to deal with a congress, that even of his own party, may not endorse everything he says?
Please relax a little. Democracy is alive and well in the US.
JBB
I have your solution. Make me supreme leader and give me all the money then you wont have to worry about political parties. They just get in the way of the more efficent dictatorship. Why have 50 argue when I alone could decide. See your making the solution too complicated. Vote me for supreme leader 😆
Why is it the USWP's responsibility to endorse cross-party candidates? Are we required to endorse candidates we may not agree with ideologically?
While Tiacha is a great representative, she's a Federalist.
Wouldn't it have been more prudent of her to run under the CvP or Libertarian banner, rather than the supposedly far-left, communist USWP?
Lowell is a former USWP member. Perhaps we felt like he represented our parties ideals better than Tiacha. After all, that's what a party is for, representing ideals.
Why do all these sixth-party, right-of-center candidates rely on USWP support?
Why aren't you all yelling about the CvP or Libs not endorsing Tiacha and other right-of-center sixth party candidates.
It's funny that the USWP is saying that the Rightcon is trying to take over, the Rightcon stands for the Right Convention, what happened was that a bunch of parties got together after the USWP announced it's USWP Against Everyone Campaign.
Gaius and Jewitt should really seek careers in real life with tabloid journalism. I can certainly respect the ability to write dramatically and creatively, but neither of you seem to be interested in objective listening.
If you aren't willing to converse with your opponents, it's not respectful discourse - it's just a rant.
I respectfully submit that ssomo has the right idea - if the eUSA is to succeed and really 'win this game', we need to stop viciously assaulting opposing parties on a daily basis. Jesus.
You know, I'm wondering what the deal is with some of the USWPers and their tendency to sound pompous/pretentious in just about all of their articles/responses. It's not all of you, of course; Aiden, hokie, even scrab - all "speak" normally. Ananias, however, sounds an AWFUL lot like Citizen Dru these days.
Do you guys have seminars on how to sound as if you're looking down your nose at everyone you address?
I'm glad that when you 'present plain and simple facts' to us you spread them very thinly amongst a lot of supposition and opinion. What use are facts anyway?
it's funny that anytime someone say's something about the Planned USWP Political Take Over that someone in the USWP always says that we are talking "conspiracy theories"... they are the ones running 52 races.
Also when does it stop being a "conspiracy theories"? when the USWP has 26 seats that's when. That is when they have Won their PTO of the USA
And standing in the gap is the United Independents Party - leaving "right vs left" behind.
It is amazing how so many people find fault with the USWP for defending themselves and actively playing the game. If we win a majority of the seats, it would reflect the hard work of individuals in our party with varied platforms who ran campaigns that focused on improving our nations and their respective state.
Their is no black-ops effort to steal elections, just a push to run clean and professional elections in as many states as we can and let the people decide. With only 50 races, most of the big parties have 'sufficient' members (at least according to their total member rally) to try for the same thing.
With >1500 members and growing, our base and player portfolio is quite diverse and reflects a centrist policy foundation built up consensus building. I cannot speak of the past, but I can speak to the present. We are an open organization who welcomes all individuals who dedicate themselves to creating policies that advance the interest of our great nation.
I find it funny that the USWP members that are commenting about my article are skirting away from actually talking about what I wrote. Instead they enjoy calling it all conspiracy theories and cant even get their own facts straight.
im sorry but that is bs
Ananias, I never before ran USWP.
And, I will rebut some of your comments at a later time.
Sounds good Tiacha, and for the record I stand correcte😛 Tiacha ran under the AAP banner last election and won in New Jersey with 16 votes defeating a candidate running under the USWP banner and a candidate running under the Conservative Party banner. So why not run under AAP again Tiacha? Or are you? (Please say yes!)
I think it is essential for the eUSA to have a couple of parties in congress at once so one party will not have all of its ideas passed. Competition is vital to having a well oiled government bureaucracy.
voted and now subscribed, I like how you think and write
I agree, USWP has invaded all states and is trying to assert their power in all places. They are trying to take over all areas! They deceive the voters and gain votes, and we suffer from their incompetence.
hmm, three level 13s with no profile pic...
I think the eUS is being polarized between those who don't want polarization and those who don't not want it. 😕
@marquis - the missing avatars are just a bug that appeared after the recent upgrade. No conspiracy here.
@ Ananias, what do you do in RL?
selling q1 house 250 USD
There is no conspiracy if I'm correct they do not even have a majority in congress. And American voters are smarter than you think they will vote for the candidate they think will do the better job. I am sick and tired of anti-USWP articles trying to demonize this party like they are trying to take over the world.
Pinky and the Brain style.
Polarization is expected after such events the eUS has gone through. Especially since the USWP is the largest party, people get bored of the same thing.