Asgard and Asteria - the background of the cooperation pact
TheJuliusCaesar
During the recent weeks I've heard multiple people asking about the reasons behind Asgard's recent sliding towards the Asteria alliance - cooperating more tightly with and overally leaning towards them more and more. My aim in this article is to explain the certain events which took place during the gone months, and which certainly had a major effect on Asgard's foreign policy outlines for the future.
I am going to talk about the escalation of alliance politics in near past, failed ABC-peace and the while ago published Asgard/Asteria pact. I am bound to enlighten the circumstances which led to these actions and events.
Let's start from the beginning of the escalation which ultimately lead to the collapse of the TWO alliance. At the minute we saw the early signs of upcoming fragmentation of the TWO alliance, we in Asgard HQ immediately discussed the possible solutions and directions to go once eWorld proceeds to the era after TWO. This all happened during the autumn of 2013. Already back then we reached a clear consensus of what were going to be the outlines of Asgardian foreign policy during the upcoming months. This direction was - right from the start - antiPoland. This was due the fact that Poland had continuously supported Estonia (along with other ABC countries) and UK, Asgard's main enemies. Further more, Poland pledged to continue doing so when asked by Asgard HQ during the negotiations between our representatives. Therefore aligning with Poland just wasn't really a realistic option for us to proceed with even before the upcoming events.
During the late 2013 and early 2014, when things were still yet to unfold, Asgard pursued to sign peace with ABC countries in order to provide both sides more cards on hand when it comes to unfolding alliance situation. Finland signed a peace with Estonia - a peace which is still in action (appreciating their commitment greatly.) Later, Asgard tried to and even managed to sign a short term peace with Lithuania, who - only a day after its signing and after Swedish attack to their cores was lost per the agreement - broke the peace by seizing their opportunity and attacking on our back while Asgard was busy with FYROMian aggression (more about that later).
This led to the hardening of our attitudes towards Lithuania and being more sceptical about the possibility of a lasting peace with them. The blow was a turnoff to our ambition for peace with them. As Lithuania was sliding more and more towards Polish side, this was one step further to make us feel we shouldn't go the same way.
Along with the Lithuanian backstab, also another event during the very same time cemented our position as an antiPoland-alliance: the airstrike conducted by FYROM. We were - in a matter of fact - contacted for the first time by the president of FYROM when their Airstrike law had already been proposed. Right from the start, FYROMian attitude was arrogant, even imperialistic. As we in Asgard had our hands already full with Lithuanian (peace negotiations, though) and British invasions, we kindly refused from accepting their plan to commit an airstrike to Norway. Their presence would have not helped us in any way, in fact it would only have favored UK, as FYROM had already signed a NAP with them before consulting the target of their "friendly" airstrike, Norway. Yes, you read right. FYROM told us they had no time for proper, full length negotiations, yet they had time to agree with UK - our enemies - on a non-aggression pact with each other. That's the way they roll. Yes, I am bitter and butthurt, but I have a valid reason.
So Asgard refused to accept their terms. Of course we thought this would be enough for them and that FYROM would then pursue a target elsewhere. Well, not a chance. FYROM insisted they needed their congress, and airstriked Norway despite Asgard's strong disapproval. This move forced us to lean even more on Asterian direction, as Greece & co. were more than happy to help us with FYROMian extermination. These two acts made it totally clear that our place was not at the Polish side.
Ultimately, being antiPoland means being proSerbia. This - of course - leads to certain difficulties regarding relations with countries like Croatia and USA who have been crucial, invaluable partners, friends and allies along the way, who simply can't be replaced. Still, as these friends are aligning with Poland, which is impossible for Finland and Asgard, we heavy heartedly need to say farewell for now to these countries.
This doesn't mean Finland's attitude nor respect towards Croatia and USA has changed a bit. This doesn't mean we hold grudge, that we hate you. This simply means that we at the moment can't sign MPP with you nor can we tightly cooperate with you.
One day I hope to see Finland, USA and Croatia fighting side by side again. But today - most unfortunately - is not the day.
I hope this helped you to understand Asgard's motives and ideas behind the alignation with Asteria. I want to express my sincerest gratitude to all of our great allies. No matter who are you alignating with after the alliance reshuffle, it won't wipe off the past joint endeavours, successful campaigns and all the great time we've had together.
- Caesar
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Estonia has 0 problems with Finland. Such a pity we cannot into MPPs :3 Would be a good alliance.
Oh shut it will you? No one has screamed as much as you have when it comes to bring support from Poland to fight for Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia against Finland and Sweden. No one. Period.
You have simply done a great job for ABC and Poland, be proud of it instead of pretending that 'we did really love each other in the past we should continue to be friends now'.
You personally are probably the single biggest obstacle to break the bound between Estonia and Poland and don't try to convince me or anyone else that Poland loves Serbia also.
Yyyyy. What. Finland is considered as enemy because it's a threat to Estonia. But that does not change the fact that some people would like to see them on our side.
Don't take this game too seriousy, Misho.
And believe me I was one of people who blamed polish government MoFA - ManiekM and CP - yave, for destroying relations with Sweden 😛
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Mixli, I guess everyone who are an oldfag hates Maniek more than the devil himself. Hating Maniek is not a sign of being friend with Sweden, it is just the sane thing to do.
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Very well written sir!
Hail Asgard!
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Nice article and I think you made the only choice possible.
I hope Portugal MPPs Finland and Norway soon, I have good friends there!
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Well, I defend the MPPs with Asgard since our enemies were common.
Btw, hyvää työtä TheJuliusCaesar!
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Beautifully, honestly written, great to see the timeline as well. Kudos for that!
Hopefully your decisions will make the game much more interesting & exciting for the whole eRep community! Also, real friendships made here won't be broken because a team switches sides, or at least they shouldn't so...
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Well done, Julius. o/
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We've been refusing MPPs which would compromise ours with Finland from the beginning, to this day. A partnership as old as ours is worth keeping MPPs or relations in spite of alliances or third parties.
That's my opinion.
Not very long ago that Croatia and Asgard had a pact to support each other. It didn't last long though as you dropped your MPP with Sweden. Probably mainly because of Poland, although Croatia didn't have MPP with them. Not sure whether there were other complications, but we shared many MPPs. Finland's MPP came easy though, so refusing MPPs because of Finland seems a little overdramatic.
That's my opinion.
After a few months of our expired MPP and not bothering to contact us at all, we were approached by a, I will be generous, president of dubious character. We politely declined for reasons of not trusting him, and not being able to afford to sign new MPPs. Poland did not enter into the equation.
If Sweden had been as unswerving an ally as Finland then you would receive precisely the same level of support that the Finns do to this day.
Oblitarate said it all. Croatian population sees Finland (not Sweden since they switched to Polish side when Poland made first version of TWO) as oldest and most faithfull ally. We may have "strange" gvts on both sides but it's common knowledge that MPP with Finland was always precious. eCroatia avoided MPP's that would compromise our relationships and I hope we will in the future.
Good luck to Finland!
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Great article!
Well written.
That confirms my point of view that the moves of Asgard were mostly emotional although reasonable in the unfolding situation. I mean you had reasons to be anti-polish, and in the decisive moment of the alliance reshuffle you got even more reasons to go that way. But was it your unbiased decision? I don't think so. You were mostly pushed in this direction by your neighbors and some other sudden enemies (if you know what I mean).
I feel sorry that it happened that way, that Asgard had no chance to choose it's path without pressure from it's hapless neighbors. We would like to see relations in the region based on mutual consent which we used to enjoy between us and Asgard for many months already. I hope that this consent will not be broken in spite of the recent changes.
Hail Asgard!
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Indeed as you said, the decision wasn't unbiased. Asgard was effectively bound to choose anti-polish side per the events mentioned in the article.
However we intend to keep our excellent relations with Mother Russia, as the peace in the common border is a great interest of both sides. Russia has been, is been and will be an invaluable friend and partner for Asgard, which is something we desire to keep the way it is.
Thanks for your feedback!
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Don't forget Chile offered FYROM regions in Australia but they turned them down!
Hail Asgard!
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FYROM likely is still embarassed that Australia and New Zealand beat the fuck out of them last time they tried Airstiking in 😛
A very well written, and enlightening article. Good luck Asgard, may Thor and his hammer be with you.
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US and Croatia has been a close friend and supporting Finnish needs for YEARS despite changes in alliances and idiots in Finnish govt.
Well done swapping longtime friends to longtime enemies.
Too bad that tales about love between Sweden and Poland in the beginning of Assgards has proven to be shitty propaganda time after time.
"Right from the start, FYROMian attitude was arrogant, even imperialistic.... FYROM insisted they needed their congress".
Something's not quite right here. Not having congress for months yet still behave like a world superpower.
This and "and airstriked Norway despite Asgard's strong disapproval" is main reason why they're nowhere to be found for at least half a year
There is a reason they are called FYROM rather than having a real name like the rest of the countries in the world.
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excellent article Ceasar
This sucks. I won't fight for Serbia/Hungary, nor will I fight against Croatia/USA.
So much butthurt...
Broke a peace, which was never signed. Hillarious.
You wasted the generous offer and a possibility which won't be available in near future. Even worse, you wasted it with a backstab. Excellent job, I'd say.
Logs of your CP agreeing to the peace: http://paste.servut.us/skah
After this, Sweden lost the attack to your cores per the agreement reached, but Lithuania won their attack to Scania by putting it as prio 1 and hitting hard there.
A backstab, filthy backstab. Can you argue differently?
I was about to rant on, however +1 for that Julius just wrote.
You will be deleted for insult me and my country RL becouse game
and who isult you RL becouse game is jerk