Are you satisfied – Directors Cut
Madacaion
NOTE: THIS ARTICLE IS A RESPONSE TO http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/are-you-satisfied--2147462/1/20
So Goku has been throwing around a few articles recently. In fact – one of his recent ones was about the media war. One in which he seems intent by winning mainly by firing off the propaganda cannon every other day.
Well – sorry goku – time for the spotters guide to blatant lies, propaganda and misdirection. Hats off to this guy – he is in fact a master of his craft – some would say an artist in the war with distorted words.
To try and make this clear I’ll put everything in italics that I have personally wrote and leave everything goku wrote in normal writing.
The Status Quo
“The Forum Elite (led by TUP and supported by most of ESO and UKRP)
Rea😛
the currently democratically elected majority Note: ESO, UKRP and every other party that doesn’t want to rip TUP to shreads is in fact a TUP spai party – planted simply to vote in anything TUP do under a guise of super spaidom…
likes the UK pretty much as it is now. They are managers and just react to things that happen with little tweaks every so often, always behind the curve at the mercy of game and alliance changes.
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Goku himself is a mind reader and actually is an in game mod – so already knows what changes the admins were going to make. Also as he’s a trusted member of international politics he can in fact tell us exactly where each country will go alliance wise – go on goku…use that crystal ball and give us your prediction
They have been in control for a few years now and have overseen a gradual decline in the population and power of the UK.
Oh hai there – nothing to do with the ever simplified game, more credit card requirement and general admin greed? In fact TUP simply run people they don’t like out with pitchforks!
We even had about half a year totally wiped out as a country with no regions until we accepted peace terms imposed by Ireland.
We were wiped – yes…and yes we did ask Ireland to help us out by letting us get a congress – and yes now we are back with 2 full terms under our belts holding on to mostly a 60/60 bonus until the irish deal fell through (due to Ireland – and that actually is the truth) and now were down to 40/60 bonuses…
All they have really done is plow our money into endless wars in Eastern Europe to make the big countries like and protect us.
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Putting in our effort to help our allies that came and gave us back our lands and actually made us a priority for a good amount of time – Oh the horror of having to give back something we owe! Imagine that goku! Giving back something you owe? Eh?
Problem is that these big countries are always falling out and switching alliances, so we often have to choose between them and lose all that effort!
Note: Despite the fact that alliances have changed recently we haven’t had to “choose” between them – we actually have good relations with all our allies cause guess what! We actually help out – isn’t that a novel idea. Allies…working together!
There is no accountability here, if you had a bad term as Minister or President nobody cares and your experience is counted as the same as those who did.
Note: People that have bad terms normally don’t get back into high profile roles. People care – and people from all sides of the political spectrum have had their voices heard when ministers/CP’s weren’t doing their jobs
Players legendary for vanishing because of "exams" after taking on heavy responsibilities are treated with extreme reverence.
See above…
I am not satisfied by this, are you?
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Not by everything – but does that mean I want to rip everything down, burn it, relieve myself on it and then fire it into space? Nope.
Dare to Dream
Why are we sticking with a group of people and their system which has clearly failed? I want us to be led by visionaries and dreamers who dare to think that the UK could be doing so much better, more than that I know that we can do and acheive so much more! To name a few points:
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I like to dream and poke fun at other peoples policies but here are my buzzword laden bullet points for you to get roused up by but actually don’t mean anything/are already being done but I make it sound pretty/are hilarious!
* Can't we plan to expand our borders and get new resources and not just sit idle within the UK and only helpothers sweep across Europe?
Note:
UK (rank 2😎
: Regions 12
Venezuela (rank 27): Regions 6
Germany (rank 26): Regions 9
Italy (rank 25): Regions 2
And it gets better:
France (rank 21): Regions 3
And finally – Russia (rank 20): Regions 15
So you have to go 8 ranks up to a country which has a population size which is almost 50% larger than ours to find one which has more regions than us. I’d say we’re actually punching a bit above our weight? Don’t you?
* Can't we organise all MUs into one massive daily strike doing massive damage for allies, not just lazily shunting everyone over to a single private MU?
The national military isn’t just shunting everyone into one MU it’s a place which is guaranteed to always have the current MOD orders and has a mandate to help out new eUKers.
Also STRIKES ALREADY HAPPEN – although not daily – that would be nice. If you think you can get more folk along to them feel free – it would be great to do this. But don’t pretend like this is a “radical” new era “policy”! lolcakes
*Can't we have regular and fun real/training wars to generate exitement and medal gold to train our newbies, not sit around months on end planning something safe, boring and unsatisfying?
Oh what – like the eBe one which is happening? Talon was extremely clear that the TW would happen after the congress elections. Which is whats happening. It was organised and had to be delayed because a funny guy in eIreland decided to put up a NE proposal - #YAWN
* Can't we come up with our own fair system for granting UK Citizenship and not just have one Polish Citizentell us who can and can't enter the UK?
This idea has always come and gone. And if you actually come up with a proper suggestion explaining roles, responsibilities of each member, fall back routines and how to avoid a PTO (yes – I’ve read your article about quotas – I actually like the idea, but its just an idea at the moment…make an actual proposal about how that would all work and then I’ll happily push for it in congress if it looks like it would actually work! NOTE: This must be a rouse because I am just a UKRP TUP spai and don’t want anything to change – obviously…
* Can't we have Justice and have public reasons and support for excluding people from the community, not being banned from IRC and Forums for silly reasons with no public reasons or appeal?
Appeals process is in place already. And surprisingly enough it actually works. If you actively work against the community though don’t expect everyone to welcome you back with open arms – you have to earn trust not just feel entitled to it
* Can't we have an accountable Government, not rewarding the old forum posters with Ministries on demand regardless of past performance or letting inactive/incompetent Ministers drag on all month?
And who from this months cabinet would you say has been incompetent?
*Can't we have a stable Govenment where we can do the above but also keep those who do well, not randomly changing Ministers and Ministry names and functions once a month?
Only if you become an elitist power hungry party which overrules everyone else and their opinions by planting fake spai parties to prop themselves up – oh wait…isn’t that what your looking to break down?
*Can't we have Alliances and Battles explained to us so that we can make informed choices about what we do, not have MPP votes and Battle Orders directed down to us from the top?
THIS ALREADY HAPPENS - #Yawn x2
In the next few days and weeks it is the job of the dreamers, leaders and visionaries to group up, get organised and hammer out exact and detailed policies.
Rea😛
I HEART BUZZWORDS
Let us throw out the boring grey forum middle men and put in the exciting, new and fresh players!
Note: Lead by one charismatic and very silver tongued wordsmith ofc!
Get in touch in comments or PMs with your opinions on solution to these and other problems.
I wanted to put this in the comments but it would of taken up to much space – and PM’s aren’t nearly public enough for an article of this magnitude
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Final note:
All the above is simply trying to point out that goku talks a lot – but doesn’t actually say anything. The rally cry of death to the TUP and the anti-establishment message is easy. It warps our community and promotes this fracture of our community - deepening divides.
What the UKRP are doing is different. We play by the rules – but we don’t feel like the rules are unchangeable. There is procedure, due diligence and proper debate to happen to ensure that nothing is a knee-jerk reaction and that EVERYTHING is in the eUK’s actual best interests. We value level heads, discerning minds and people who are willing to not only talk – but do.
Goku is not an evil person, nor should he be cast out from the eUK community entirely. In fact only today I suggested that we should give him back his forum access so that he could participate in the correct manner and instigate his changes (you know if he ever actually puts them together into a real proposal) through the proper channels.
Don’t fall for the propaganda machine – test what you are told. Test this even.
And lastly – A lot of this article was written with a bit of humour. It was not written as a personal attack – nor was it in any way meant to be spiteful, hurtful and hopefully it wont increase the divide.
So Goku – Ball is in your court. Stay and play nicely with everyone else, looking for proper structured change using logic and reason? Or fire aft Prop-pedoes?
~Madacaion
THIS ARTICLE IS PURELY MY OWN OPINION AND IS NOT AN OFFICAL UKRP VIEWPOINT
Comments
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naice
Superb
opens bag of popcorn in anticipation 😉
Voted + subbed
"about half a year totally wiped" - Goku
3 is not half of 12
love it.
V+S.
madacaion: I love you.
Voted
it's so true though that's the thing
Gotta love the truth~
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who isn't falling for Goku's rubbish, voted for glory and honesty! But we're just spies because we disagree with a thief, obviously.
Voted! o/
Nice article. I do not agree on all, but loved it. Voted!
Madac, great article!
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I like the style, it is a way of discussing things in a civilized way.
More negativity. Shame on you New Era after this and that Heratio's article...
Oh...
It isn't New Era???
love the article mada
so we are just going to stick with TUP and UKPP and stay so low in the rankings are we?
or do you think it is time for a change, for a better future, New Era is the way forward
New Era is not your NE
p.s. if his article is propaganda, what is this?
wigibob? UKPP???? you mean UKRP, who with ESO, brown-nose TUP at every opportunity!!!
New Era & UKPP are the Official Opposition
To be fair it does come across that way Neil. ESO only asked questions when Big Ant was there sadly.
jumping on the media war band waggon 🙂
LOLPROPAGANDA
the best part is that it isn't propaganda.
Here's the difference: some of us don't believe that just because a party has a lot of members we need to constantly berate them and ask questions of them. Making sure that the CP is doing a good job and that Congress members aren't ruining our country is our concern - the CP is doing a fine job and the only questionable congress members who are making poor decisions and act outside of eUK's wider interests aren't TUP members. Just because we disagree with your BS doesn't make us "brown-nose"rs.
Number of regions isn't a useful metric of anything, USA have 51. You need to look at Weapons Resources.
Thanks for putting my article in the Top 5 TWICE! 🙂
vote 100 : D
UK (rank 2😎 : Regions 12 : Bonuses 60/40 (weapons/food)
Venezuela (rank 27): Regions 6 : Bonuses 20/40
Germany (rank 26): Regions 9 : Bonuses 20/60
Italy (rank 25): Regions 2 : Bonuses 0/20
And it gets better:
France (rank 21): Regions 3 : Bonuses 20/40
And finally – Russia (rank 20): Regions 15 : Bonuses 60/80
It in fact is even better:
You have to go to china in 18th before someone beats us on weapons bonuses.
Thanks for pointing that out Goku!
Country rank isn't a useful metric of anything either, with full resource China being #18. You need to look at the strength/damage and wealth of the players too.
Why are we satisfied with being better than or equal to everyone below rank 18 even if your stats are meaningful?
I'm proud of our achievements as a community and nation; idk 'bout you
Being?
why do you hate Britain so much
How do you propose we get Rubber then? The nearest is occupied by our ally, Poland. The nearest Saltpeter is in Italy. Please do explain how you will magically increase our weapon bonuses while holding every region that connects to it?
Dream and it will happen, let magic guide your life, close your eyes and fall backwards and Goku will catch you, etc.
"People that have bad terms normally don’t get back into high profile roles." lmfao
why do you hate Britain so much ?
I did laugh at that, It reminds me of Invalidation accusing people of racism against Magic Heroes. The smell of last gasp desperation : D
Oh come on, Hugh, you've got a better sense for humour than that!
lol Sven, we have bad term Woldy here himself to show us!!
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So bad that people only re-elected him 5 times.
[citation needed] much, eh Goku? Let's not compare our tenures as MoFA, k
I really don't think Goku is qualified to judge anyone on competence and integrity.
>“The Forum Elite (led by TUP and supported by most of ESO and UKRP)"
> Rea😛 the currently democratically elected majority
Forum elite isn't the political 'elite' madaicon. For whatever reason and for better or worse the 'kumnaa' mods are all from or involved with the parties listed thats a statistical fact and a subject of much previous discussion which is frankly pointless as its just the way it is.
>"behind the curve"
>Goku knows the future.
Pre-emption is 99% impossible but when a change does occur it'd be nice to address that in a rapid manner rather then argue about RP fap, RP laws and guaging the winds of change to the point that we don't actually make an adjustment till just before it changes once more.
>"years of control"
> Nothing to do with......
Sure we can make excuses till the end of time but tbf our retention rate as a nation sucks! We're never going ot reatin 100% of those who sign-up but making more then a token attempt to pro-activly engage with them and giving them a reason to live then we can at least use your excuses without including "we suck" on the list.
It obviously continues in this vein but for me the lesson here is that one 'side' of the political spectrum has their view and version of events and the other 'side' has theirs.
You make some good points as does Goku but there is also alot of fallacy and mistakes (as there is for all parties) and somewhere in the middle if we could all honestly admit to our mistakes there might be a way forward.
In that vein.......
"UKPP apologises for backing Kravenn over Dish in the Jan 2012 election"
They were both terrible candidates and whilst Dish was probably the least terrible we simply backed Kravenn due to the UKPP Vs UKRP rivalry (note for new guys : back then UKRP was a political force and second in the rankings)
>"behind the curve"
>Goku knows the future.
Some countries MAKE the future happen. These alliances changes don't happen at random.