Are We Really That Arrogant?
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by Ryan_5
sure Americans like America. But when the Hungarians accuse us of saying we are the best, and those backstabbers across the pond, cite our arrogance as casus belli, I must ask are we that arrogant?
Sure, we pat ourselves on the back, after a job well done. Articles praising the Marines are common place. Not as commonplace as say, Hungarian articles trolling us, proclaiming their power. As soon as the traitors began swapping regions with the french, they started claiming states as personal possessions.
Sure there is a lot of trash talk around erep, and trash talk usually is in the line of I am better than you. If you have ever been in #usa-chat, you will probably see foreigners, some who often love to insult america. I don't think this stuff is really serious. We have pride and patriotism and we aren't the only ones who do. If a nation needs to eat humble pie, it is Hungary. If America thinks they can feed it to them, then it is confidence, not arrogance.
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yeah,, we are arrogant,,, so what of it?!
Ya Americans are arrogant. You read any of the verbal diarrhea coming from the newspapers when PEACE announced their attack? Most of us honestly seemed to think we could take on the whole world if we had to.
@Mayo Valentine: We can. With our allies. Peace will bleed themselves dry trying to take us, and if by a miracle they do we will bleed them the rest of the way in resistance wars. If it's arrogant to think we will be victorious then I am most definately an arrogant eAmerican. What's the other option. Curl up in a ball and cry "We're doomed we can't win". I'm sorry. That's just not me.
I think many of the accusations of arrogance, etc are derived from RL grudges. A person now in their early twenties (like many erep players) would have grown up with a RL President of the USA who was deeply unpopular in many parts of the world. I think that has clouded the perception that some people have of both the RL & e versions of the USA.
A shame people have to bring that into the game but that is the way it is, I don't think it can be changed. Conservatives, please don't flame me, I'm not launching an attack just stating facts.
You're not arrogant, you are the land of the free, the beacon of the free world, the sleeping giant, the most powerful military in the eWorld...
NOT!
The straw between PEACE and the US broke based on 2 acts from the US part:
1) helping Croatia in their egenocide against Serbia
2) attacking the Netherlands-Belgium union, which is the most peaceful and inoffensive PEACE member
Also, if you want to see if you are arrogant or not, it is enough for a PEACE member to post an article in the US media. The comments in it say more then enough.
eAmericans (of course with many exceptions) are the most unfriendly people you will find in this game. The only people who ever rejected my friendship request are those from the eUS. The only place where i was insulted after saying that this is a game and people should tigthten up and just enjoy it, is the eUS.
NXNW,
I think you're absolutely correct. With a game like this that has many people from around the world and from various national origins, there is bound to be some infusion of RL socio-political rhetoric. Unfortunately, as you have said, that's just the way it is. What we (as players who are keeping RL and IG lines of thought separate) should do is keep playing and comporting ourselves as we always have. As long as we don't fall into the trap of mixing reality with gaming, we will always be the better person and player.
I agree, you are arrogant, but i dont see any problem with that...
Also, no one can be arrogant without being confident, which is important for an eCountry.
I am not participating in this fight because I have problem with arrogance, but because I want to enjoy this game. You should be doing that too. This makes you think out of the box, makes you 'speak' to people you would have never done.
This is exciting, just like it was for us when we were fighting for our eFreedom against Romania (supported by US).
people are arrogant, not countries.
You wrote an article about arrogance and you used 'causi belli'.
Oh yeah baby! We are arrogant.
Why would we need to eat humble pie? And why would you be the one who could feed us with it?
@ Blake Antilles I'm not suggesting we lay down and die by any means, but a lot of the EMERICA F*** YEA! stuff just made us all look like red necks in the parking lot outside a Toby Keith concert.
There are thousands of Emericans. It's arrogance to judge us all with a broad stroke.
@clawy:I've had foul language directed at me because of my RL nationality, welcome to the club. I think it is a bit of a stretch to say eAmericans are the most unfriendly in the game--even you undermine that belief by stating there are many exceptions. It is a form of RL bigotry to say that Americans are rude, uneducated, have no sense of humor, etc.
I've seen you commenting on many articles that are clearly designed to taunt or otherwise provoke people so it should be no surprise that you draw some static.
In regard to your statement that the effort in United Holland was the last straw didn't PEACE official spokesperson Glados post an article prior to that stating that PEACE was going to destroy the eUSA?
"It's arrogance to judge us all with a broad stroke."
I read US posts before the war. Some of it was arrogant. Maybe the majority is not arrogant, but they kept quiet, or the minority was too loud.
I beleive the turning point was the rejection of our peace proposal. I remember there were many articles about USA in Hungary that time. You made clear which side you chose. When we tried to liberate Serbia and you chose to support Croatia. Things snowballed and we are here.
You mean a peace proposal, one like you had with eUK? An arrogant one?
Every time I see a PEACE troll blathering their hate and arrogance in our media and in comments, I can smell the fear in them. I like it.
Amen america
Ryan_5 - I have never said anything insulting on your chat and have seen only insults directed at me there and yet I got banned from there.
even the comments posted here kind of prove the point, we americans respond to trash talk and trolling, with the like. now sometimes people misinterpret things as trolling, because of similar things. @
@clawy Egenocide come on?
@white shadow, eating humble pie is an expression. if the US wins this war, we will be feeding you the pie.
@Zoli, you could probably get unbanned, but you're constant hijacking of the us media ticks everyone off. Notice Gladdos is not banned from there. Believe me, in the us chat, we are pretty tolerant.
Ryan,
I know what it means.🙂
You Emaricans try to shape the world according to your desires/interest. You may say that all other eNations try to do the same, but they ain't be that arrogant - that's why we all dislike you. This is not the real world, your arrogance shall be punished...
Peace on you boys 🙂